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I just received my unit a MRX-510 and did the system configuration in a breeze. This is so much user friendly.


I will start feeding information this week-end.







Anthem just announced their second generation line of 3D ready A/V receivers. The MRX series features three receivers: the MRX 310, MRX 510, and MRX 710.


The MRX 510, and MRX 710 all featuring 7 channels of amplification and 7 HDMI in/2 out.








Link to Anthem MRX Page

http://www.anthemav.com/products/series=mrx-series



Manuals, Data Sheets, and Additional Documentation/Literature:

http://anthemav.com/support/manuals-literature.php



HIGHLIGHTS


•Anthem Room Correction (ARC)

•Video Conversion from Composite Video and Component Video to HDMI

•1080p24 mode

•Dolby Volume

•AM/FM Tuner

DECODING


•Dolby TrueHD and Dolby Digital Plus

•DTS-HD Master Audio (MRX 710/510)

•DTS-HD High-Resolution Audio

LISTENING MODES


•AnthemLogic – Cinema, Music

•Dolby Pro Logic IIx (Movie, Music, including Center Width, Dimension and Panorama adjustments)

•DTS Neo:6 (Cinema, Music)

•All-Channels (All-Speaker Stereo)

INPUTS


•Analog Video Inputs: 1 Composite + 2 Component

•Digital Audio Inputs: 2 Coaxial + 3 Optical

•5 Stereo Analog RCA Inputs

•HDMI On-Screen Display – setup, video adjustments, status, song/artist info from radio stations


CUSTOM INSTALLATION


•IR Control

•RS-232 Control

•IR Emitter Output

•Trigger Output

•Second Audio Zone

ADDITIONAL FEATURES


•Backlit Remote Control

•Sidemount Rack Kit (sold separately)


WARRANTY


•3 years

Specifications

PREAMPLIFIER

Maximum Output (
 

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Since there is lots of pertinent information in the FAQ of the previous generation of MRX I made a copie of the list here



Now we need to revised all of them.


FAQ


Q:Where can I download the latest firmware?


A: MRX 310 / 510 / 710 Firmware Updates, and ARC-2 Windows Application Updates:

http://www.anthemav.com/support/latest-software.php


Currently version are MRX-510 v1.1.1, ARC vTBD

Q: Where can I find more technical specifications?


A: http://anthemav.com/support/manuals-literature.php

Q: Do the MRX 310/510/710 have the same preamplifier and video sections?


A: Yes.

Q: Which speakers does ARC work well with?


A: [email protected] says:"ARC works with ALL speakers, within the speaker's limits."

MRX Quick Setup Guide and General Questions about ARC Calibration


A: See the following posts by Tigger:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3849
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3875
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1797
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3740
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=4137

Q:What is Room Gain?


A: Follow this link for Information on Room Gain http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=5489


Q: Do the MRX 510/710 have the same ARC implementation? I am not sure about the 310


A: Yes.

Q: How does the MRX 310/510/710 ARC implementation compare to MRX 300/500/700 and D2v/AVM50v?


A: DSP in AVM/D has most processing power, then new MRX, then previous MRX. The ARC algorithms are the same across all models except that ARC program knows which model it's connected to and calculates filters according to the DSP capability.



Q: Should any Sub EQ be run in addition to running ARC?


A: Nick @ Anthem says

With MRX and one sub - it depends on the room/speaker combo. You have to try and compare. PBK has twice the number crunching ability that ARC sub channel does, MRX-wise.

With multiple subs - balance levels to one another, match phase too if you're into tweaking, run PBK on each if available, run ARC on the lot either way.

With other sub EQ systems - you have to try and compare but always run sub EQ before running ARC. If you then turn off sub EQ, run ARC again. ARC has to hear the sub in the form it's in when playing movies and music. If it hears the wrong thing it'll correct the wrong thing. Since there are two ARC memories, Movie and Music, you might want to use one with sub EQ and the other without.

With subs that have considerable response below 20 Hz it might help to set sub hi-pass filter to Flat. This is in the advanced targets of ARC and PBK.


Nick @ Anthem adds:

Filters are allocated per channel and they're never unused in the sense that their object is to get response as close to target as possible.

If response is nasty enough such that both systems are needed to fill in a very deep notch, say 12 dB, then the best thing to do is reposition the sub where possible and avoid the issue (in each system gain limit is 6 dB by design). This is where Quick Measure comes in. If it's not possible to move the sub and response is this bad then using both EQs might be the answer (worst-case and I've never come across it).


Bob Pariseau addresses multiple subs.

Q: What is the difference between Crossover and Cutoff as they apply to ARC implementation?


A: Bob Pariseau says "For a main speaker, the Cutoff is the lowest frequency where ARC applies resources for correction. Think of it as the other end of Max EQ Frequency. I'm not sure, but I suspect there's actually at least an octave of slop in there rather than it being a hard stopping point. I.e., application of correction resources sort of rolls-off below that frequency.


The Crossover is where ARC imposes a roll-off -- an attenuation -- of the bass output of a main speaker -- i.e., because the bass is being steered to the subwoofer. The roll-off is 12dB per octave as I recall. That is at half the Crossover frequency the speaker output will be 12dB below the basic volume level of the ARC solution (with possible adjustment for Room Gain).


In the current ARC version, the Cutoff and Crossover for the main speakers are ALWAYS set the same. Which makes sense. If ARC isn't going to correct that speaker very far below the Cutoff frequency, then you want the output of the speaker below that point to be attenuated. Which is just what the Crossover does. So if you alter the Cutoff for a main speaker in the Targets window, you are ALSO altering its Crossover. This will be readily visible in the shape of the new Targets curve.



The same sort of thing happens for the Subwoofer, but at the HIGH frequency end of its output. Think of the Cutoff of the Subwoofer as kind of like Max EQ Frequency for the sub.


One big difference is that the current version of ARC allows the sub Cutoff and sub Crossover to be DIFFERENT. ARC controls the Crossover (since allowing you to alter it would over-constrain the solution -- i.e., the Crossover needs to be set in a way that works with what's going on with the main speakers). But you can tweak the Cutoff.


ARC itself often uses this freedom to improve the solution. Typically the sub's Crossover will be set at a lower frequency than the Cutoff. This attenuates the high end output of the sub, but still allows correction resources to be applied above that point."


An EXCELLENT overview of Crossovers and Cutoffs from Bob Pariseau at this link http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=5762

Q: Do the MRX 310/510/710 pass through unsupported video formats?


A: Standard CE (consumer electronics) formats up to 4K30 are supported.

Q: Do the MRX 310/510/710 support video pass-through when powered on?


A: For gen2, disable ECO mode in the setup menu then select a Standby HDMI Bypass input. The old HDMI chips needed 60W to make this happen, the new ones need 5.3W.

Q: Does Dolby Volume default to off?


A: Yes

Q: What serial commands are available?


A: IP and serial commands are in the Literaure section.

Q: Do the MRX 310/510/710 support IP control?


A: IP and serial commands are in the Literaure section.

Q: Why don't the MRX 310/510/710 come with a USB cable instead of a serial cable?


A: Cat5 cable comes with gen2, not serial.

Q: How do you change Audio modes on the fly?


A: To change mode on the fly, press Mode then up/down then Select.

Q: Is there a recommended burn-in time for the MRX receivers?


A: Nick @ Anthem says: There isn't. Countless Audio Precision measurements show the same results regardless of time in use. Same with previous models.

Q: Can the MRX be used with 6.1 speaker setup?


A: Single back channel is not supported.

Q: What is the best way to get Technical Support?


A: tech support: support link on www.anthemav.com or [email protected] (doesn't always work due to spam filter) or option 6 on main Paradigm number (+1 905-564-1994)

Q: How do I set up my Harmony Remote to work with my MRX receiver?


A: Harmony Remote config for the new MRX is now available.


Q: What does a good Sub chart look like when measured with ARC?


A: Jayray has posted a picture, at the bottom of the page, of such a chart.

Q:Tips for locating your sub - What is a Quick and Easy way to find the right place in your room for your sub?


A: Check out these links from Bob Pariseau and Obsidian for the tips.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=6198
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=6199
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=6200
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=6203
 

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I've been Beta Testing a 710, focussing on 2D and a 2.1 speaker configuration with the new ARC. And headphones, of course without ARC.


I'll keep an eye on this thread in case there are questions I can answer.

--Bob
 

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Tolstoi,


So what are your initial thoughts on the 510. Mine came in Friday but I want receive it until sometime next week. What are you waiting for....we need updates.
 

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau  /t/1497598/anthem-mrx-receivers-310-510-710-owners-thread-tweaking-guide#post_23901969


Yay! New thread! (Collect them all
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I've been Beta Testing a 710, focussing on 2D and a 2.1 speaker configuration with the new ARC. And headphones, of course without ARC.


I'll keep an eye on this thread in case there are questions I can answer.

--Bob

Hi Bob obviously your deep knowledge and fast typing is welcomed:)
 

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Before making any comments on the MRX-510 and MRX-710, I would like to clarify a few things. I will be using this unit for in a living room with a 3.0 speakers config. I am using the unit mostly for movies and TV and a bit high resolution music. I will rarely use it for 3D movies since most of my 3D movies will be watched in my home theatre running a D2V3D. I never tried the previous generation of MRX so I cannot provide any inputs on the level of improvement regarding sound quality or other features.


My only other exposure to other receiver was limited to Sony, Cambridge, Pioneer Elite.


I first listen to the MRX-710 at my dealer which had received the unit the day before. He didn’t had the time to plug and used ARC. The MRX-710 was connected to a set of Dali speakers. I was really surprised by how good the sound was out of the box. From all the receivers I listen to the two that I prefer were the new MRX and the Cambridge for hi-rez audio, and MRX for Blu-ray watching. I find them much better than the Sony and Pioneer I listen to. That been said this is really a personal impression and anybody who buy a receiver should take the time to listen it.


Personally, I took the MRX-510 but didn’t have a chance yet to really listen to it, I will do that later today. Meanwhile my first contact with the unit is really on the usability. It is so simple to configure and use. No fuss and useless features. Just a really good product that sticks to what we need from a receiver. Good sound, good image, good audio and video processing and be able to use all that out of the box. I took me only 5 minutes to configure the thing. Compare this to the D2V3D it is much easier to use. Obviously it is less flexible then the D2V (by example since I use a unlock Oppo and PC to watch European movies) on the D2V to avoid European movies from jittering I have 4 video configs 1080p24, 1080p60, 1080p25 and 1080p50 used by two units (oppo and a PC) connect to different 2 HDMI inputs. That been said I am sure most of user will not need that level of complexity from their MRX.
 

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Does the MRX-310 really not decode DTS-HD Master Audio? It's a $1299 receiver for goodness sakes.
 

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From what I've read it does decode DTS-HD MA 5.1, but because the DTS MA spec calls for the capability to do 7.1 they can't use the DTS-HD MA logo because the 310 is only a 5.1 receiver.
 

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau  /t/1497598/anthem-mrx-receivers-310-510-710-owners-thread-tweaking-guide#post_23901969


Yay! New thread! (Collect them all
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I've been Beta Testing a 710, focussing on 2D and a 2.1 speaker configuration with the new ARC. And headphones, of course without ARC.


I'll keep an eye on this thread in case there are questions I can answer.

--Bob

Hay Bob,

Is it worth to upgrade from MRX 700 to MRX 710?


Thanks.
 

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^ That's tough for me to answer, as I've never had my hands on a 700.


As Tolstoi points out above, one of the key features of the new models is "simplicity". For example, you won't find a bunch of controls for adjusting video output. You have a choice of "pass through" or AUTO (processed) -- with the only adjustment for AUTO being whether Deep Color format is used. (There is also the ability to engage stand-by pass-through -- i.e., a way to let Source HDMI go through the MRX to the Display while the MRX is "Off".) This should work well for the vast majority of folks who can achieve all the video adjustment they need using the controls already present in their Display.


As I mentioned, I focussed on testing the MRX 710 in a 2.1 speaker configuration. I set the new ARC a significant challenge in that regard, as I deliberately set up the primary listening position off-center (about in line with the Left Front speaker) and left the Subwoofer in what I knew to be a non-optimal location. I was actually quite impressed with the sound the new ARC achieved from that!


In addition to Infrared remote and RS-232 control, the new line also adds IP control (control the MRX via Ethernet -- as from a computer or portable device app). (It also has HDMI CEC control -- primarily for auto turn-on and input selection.)


If you are in the market for such a Receiver, I'd say this one is definitely worth a look. But as to whether it makes sense to upgrade from a 700 you already have, I can't answer that.

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Looks like I found a home here. Thanks Tolstoi. Just picked up my 710 here in the States on Tuesday, replacing an old but good work horse Marantz SR8000 from 2000. no HDMI etc:eek: .

So far loving it. using a OPPO 105 for the source along with a Pro ject for the vinyl. was using a Music Reference tube amp for the fronts with the Marantz but I'll stick with just the 710 for now and try the Music Reference at a later time. My speaker set up is Focals with no sub yet. I have not run ARC yet but will in couple of weeks or so. Just getting the OPPO set right and want to listen to 2channel and 5 channel for movies for a while before running ARC as to really judge the difference. I'm sure I will have lots of questions soon. So far the sound quality is a big step up from the old setup.


thanks

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Seems like MRX310 is a downgrade from MRX300 in some aspects such as no surround back amps or preouts & no dedicated zone 2 preouts. Seems like MRX310 is a few pounds lighter than MRX300 due to missing amp channels.
 

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Originally Posted by vinodk  /t/1497598/anthem-mrx-receivers-310-510-710-owners-thread-tweaking-guide#post_23905524


Seems like MRX310 is a downgrade from MRX300 in some aspects such as no surround back amps or preouts & no dedicated zone 2 preouts. Seems like MRX310 is a few pounds lighter than MRX300 due to missing amp channels.

The MRX 310 doesn't have surround back amps or surround back pre outs but it *does* have dedicated zone 2 pre outs. So...no 7.1 but you can use 5.1 with a second zone (with the addition of an external amp). Still a better deal for a 5.1 + Zone 2 system than the MRX 510...IMHO.


See page 47 for a view of the back of the MRX 310:
Anthem MRX 310 Manual


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Still not such a good deal for people with 7.1 setup who are forced to step up to MRX510. They should have atleast kept the surround back preouts especially considering that the price was increased by $200.00. Surprised why Anthem took this step. Guess I am hanging on to my MRX300. MRX300 has dedicated Zone 2 preouts in addition to full 7.1 preouts. Looked at the manual for Gen 2. Seems like you are looking at the back panel of 710. 310 does not seem to have Zone 2 output unless I am missing something.
 

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Yesterday I put the MRX-510 in a series of unfair comparison with other components a have in my house in stereo without ARC.


I haven’t run ARC yet. It is difficult to run ARC on unit install in a living room. I first need to kick out all the family members at the same time so they won`t interfere which I haven`t managed yet:)


In my setup I will use the MRX-510 to drive a stereo tube amp for the main right and left. My system is also equip with a CEC CD transport as a source and a high end external DAC, and a rega planar turn table with a Moon preamp and difficult set of main speakers. I tested the setup with MRX as a pre-amp only, a preamp and power amp against my tube amp and also against an YBA made amp. With an internal and with an external DAC. With a turn table as a source, oppo as a souce.


The pre-amp and amp section are really good. My speakers are tough to drive if the source and amp is not good they become flat. Good details and imaging came out of the amp and pre-amp section enough bass and more important a well balance sound. Lots of power I did not manage to clip the amp but obviously this amp is made to drive 7 channel and on the power side my speakers easy to drive. The sound stage is well place, voice are really good, lots of details. I played a few disk through my turn table and again same thing good details and sound stage is good. I was buying the MRX mainly for movies playback but it is clear that this is an excellent stereo amp/pre-amp. I even like the power amp of the anthem better than the YBA one.


Then I compare the MRX internal DAC against my external DAC. The MRX did really well not as much detail then the external DAC but still really good performance. The conclusion the MRX DAC section is really good even against DAC cost as much as the MRX. Good details, good imaging and a well-balanced sound.


There is setting that allows for passing an analog input directly to the preamp with processing it. I did tests with and without the pass-through and did not come to a conclusion. I was expecting that the pass-through would be better but it is not a definite clear answer. I need more test here.


From the Oppo I managed to get all format played correctly. I managed to play 192 khz hi rez multi-channel music as well through LPCM.


Doing these tests was really easy with the UI, you could create about 20 possible input configs and each one take a few second to create. At some point I had 4 config just to test internal vs external DAC and with or without pass-through.

For peoples interested by numbers, the unit power on take 10 second. I did my first firmware upgrade, it took 7 minutes. Upgrade are really easy to do meanwhile if you install the units in a rack or furniture where access to the back will be difficult, since the USB need to be connected at the back, I recommend you install a USB extension similar to one OPPO are providing.
 

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Looks like I found a home here. Thanks Tolstoi. Just picked up my 710 here in the States on Tuesday, replacing an old but good work horse Marantz SR8000 from 2000. no HDMI etc:eek: .

So far loving it. using a OPPO 105 for the source along with a Pro ject for the vinyl. was using a Music Reference tube amp for the fronts with the Marantz but I'll stick with just the 710 for now and try the Music Reference at a later time. My speaker set up is Focals with no sub yet. I have not run ARC yet but will in couple of weeks or so. Just getting the OPPO set right and want to listen to 2channel and 5 channel for movies for a while before running ARC as to really judge the difference. I'm sure I will have lots of questions soon. So far the sound quality is a big step up from the old setup.


thanks

Dr. Tube

On top of been a good receiver I also bought the MRX-510 to use ARC. The good thing about ARC is that it working well even if use the MRX as preamp only. You could even mixte the configuration. Having an external amp for the main by example. ARC will deal with any config. It will be easy to compare both as I did yesterday.
 

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Still not such a good deal for people with 7.1 setup who are forced to step up to MRX510. They should have atleast kept the surround back preouts especially considering that the price was increased by $200.00. Surprised why Anthem took this step. Guess I am hanging on to my MRX300. MRX300 has dedicated Zone 2 preouts in addition to full 7.1 preouts. Looked at the manual for Gen 2. Seems like you are looking at the back panel of 710. 310 does not seem to have Zone 2 output unless I am missing something.

Hmmm...I'm preettttty sure I was looking at the MRX 310 diagram...the 710 is on page 46 and 310 is on page 47, I've outlined the Zone 2 pre outs:



But yeah...it seems as though the Anthem marketing dept. put the axe to having a 7.1 configuration in the base model. Presumably this is to drive more sales of the MRX 510. If I was looking at 7.1 in the $1200 price range I'd probably have a lot closer look at the Denon X-4000 among other offerings from the more mainstream brands.


The 310 is not inexpensive for a 5.1 receiver, but I still like their philosophy of having the same pre-amp/processor sections throughout the line. I think this fact and ARC allows it to compete well against the other so-called boutique brands such as NAD and Cambridge Audio.


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I did a first pass at running ARC but did not had a chance to test the outcome yet.


My first impression on the new ARC is wow! Compare to the ARC I am using on the D2V this is much more easy to use . You just plug the MRX and your PC or Laptop on your local network, install the software plug the mic to your PC using the usb cable supplied and you are ready to go. Again less than 10 minutes to setup.


Now on top of been easy to use it is super-fast the upload of the new config to the MRX take less than 1 minutes, on the D2V it feel like taking for ages.


Now time to test the outcome.
 
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