Any Benfits of Bi Wiring??
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No, not really. http://www.sonicdesign.se/biwire.html
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Please do a little search. There have been many threads which ask this question and, in fact, there are two that are still "live" today. It is a topic that comes up daily and inspires lots of talk.
FWIW, in my opinion, it is a waste of money and effort.
FWIW, in my opinion, it is a waste of money and effort.
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If you have stock in a copper mine there would be some benefit.
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The forum search function is your friend. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/searc...rchid=13495259
But in a nutshell, the circuit between the amp and the speakers is IDENTICAL whether you run a full range speaker wire to one set of binding posts on the speaker and connect to the other set of binding posts with the supplied jumpers (or your own jumpers made out of speaker wire).... as it is to connect using a four (or more) conductor speaker wire run as full range from the amp and broken out into four connectors at the speaker with the jumpers removed. Everything about the two electrical circuits is the same. So if the electrical circuit is the same, the sound will be the same.
But, there are those with magical ears who hear a difference. So, if you've got the money to throw away on the extra wire, then try it for yourself and see which works best for you.
But in a nutshell, the circuit between the amp and the speakers is IDENTICAL whether you run a full range speaker wire to one set of binding posts on the speaker and connect to the other set of binding posts with the supplied jumpers (or your own jumpers made out of speaker wire).... as it is to connect using a four (or more) conductor speaker wire run as full range from the amp and broken out into four connectors at the speaker with the jumpers removed. Everything about the two electrical circuits is the same. So if the electrical circuit is the same, the sound will be the same.
But, there are those with magical ears who hear a difference. So, if you've got the money to throw away on the extra wire, then try it for yourself and see which works best for you.
i can +1 the looking things up. one of the best features in this forum (ive never seen it elsewhere, althoguh im no multi-forum junkie), is when you enter the title of your thread, it brings up other threads with similar titles/topics. this is sucha fool-proof lazy way to search.... which is why i love it so much
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but i will say this about bi-amping. im still relatively new to the forum/hobby, and it seems like for the mose part the differenceswill be tiny, at best. but if i were to spend an insane amount on speakers and my amps (i would consider $10,000+ to qualify for this example) and if i had a large amount of watts going in (we'll say 300+) i may bi-amp just for peace of mind i guess. i know there are a few people here that will disagree, but i think it all should be a ratio to the money/level of your other equip. meaning...
when i got my new speakers (B&W DM602.5's), i was using a very low grade speaker wire that i had been using for years. the dealer i bought them from carried Trasparent Cables, which if you dont know, can be upwards of $10K for a pair
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i knew my cable was old and probably needed to be replaced (a few pretty bad 'kinks' in spots, to the point where i was wondering if any of the actual wire had broke), so i ended up getting a few strands of Trasparents bottom-of-the-line spool cable, with some nifty lil' banana plugs at the end. ill openly admit my prices; i got my left right and center for $500. they were a discontinued series that wouldve been about $1000 new. i paid about $55 for the two 12' strands of cable. im sure a few (dozen) people here will call me a fool and say i wasted my money, but i needed new cable, and i could justify spending 10% of my speakers cost on cable
although this big long story doesnt even concern bi-amping, it kind of backs up my theory; its all relative to your speakers, amp, amount of watts, and use. i thikn in certain extremes it can be justified, if for no other reason than peace of mind.
PS sorry for the wordy responce, i tend to do that sometimes
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but i will say this about bi-amping. im still relatively new to the forum/hobby, and it seems like for the mose part the differenceswill be tiny, at best. but if i were to spend an insane amount on speakers and my amps (i would consider $10,000+ to qualify for this example) and if i had a large amount of watts going in (we'll say 300+) i may bi-amp just for peace of mind i guess. i know there are a few people here that will disagree, but i think it all should be a ratio to the money/level of your other equip. meaning...
when i got my new speakers (B&W DM602.5's), i was using a very low grade speaker wire that i had been using for years. the dealer i bought them from carried Trasparent Cables, which if you dont know, can be upwards of $10K for a pair
although this big long story doesnt even concern bi-amping, it kind of backs up my theory; its all relative to your speakers, amp, amount of watts, and use. i thikn in certain extremes it can be justified, if for no other reason than peace of mind.
PS sorry for the wordy responce, i tend to do that sometimes
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Aqua is a starving writer in real life. He has an audio hobby just to keep him sane.
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Aqua is a starving writer in real life. He has an audio hobby just to keep him sane.
i suppose you compare it to that. like i said, its just me, and im sure its 99.9% my mind (eyes, really) telling me that its better, but if im going to have 802D's and Ayre MX-R on each (my dealer had that exact setup), i might give cable a bit more thought just because of the amount of watts and levle of equip involved. but as far as bi-amping (my attempt to get back on topic), the only time i would personally concider it would be i play a ton of full-range, uncompressed music at higher volumes, but again, this is just a "CYA" move for the most part, and its not like there could even be disaster without bi-amping
i suppose you compare it to that. like i said, its just me, and im sure its 99.9% my mind (eyes, really) telling me that its better, but if im going to have 802D's and Ayre MX-R on each (my dealer had that exact setup), i might give cable a bit more thought just because of the amount of watts and levle of equip involved. but as far as bi-amping (my attempt to get back on topic), the only time i would personally concider it would be i play a ton of full-range, uncompressed music at higher volumes, but again, this is just a "CYA" move for the most part, and its not like there could even be disaster without bi-amping
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For peace of mind, I prefer tossing a horseshoe over my shoulder.
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For peace of mind, I prefer tossing a horseshoe over my shoulder.
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At the same time he was chasing down that little old lady.
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At the same time he was chasing down that little old lady.
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Let's not get the OP confused by facts my friend. He was asking about bi-WIRING not bi-amping. Which is a whole different can of worms that's opened about twice a week around here. Almost as much as as the new threads over and over again about bi-wiring.
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Let's not get the OP confused by facts my friend. He was asking about bi-WIRING not bi-amping. Which is a whole different can of worms that's opened about twice a week around here. Almost as much as as the new threads over and over again about bi-wiring.
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Ok....quick question.
If your amp supports bi-amping and your speakers can be bi-wired.... would anyone NOT run the extra set of wires to hook it up?
Does bi-amping suck that bad?
If your amp supports bi-amping and your speakers can be bi-wired.... would anyone NOT run the extra set of wires to hook it up?
Does bi-amping suck that bad?
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