[macdot]

Looking for a new TV but really want one that can do picture-in-picture with two HDMI inputs. The few TVs I'm finding with PIP seem to be unable to use two HDMI sources. Am I missing something obvious or are there really no LED TVs out there that can do this?

 

[dfp]

You're not missing anything. They all require using the TVs internal tuner for one of the windows.

 

[olyteddy]



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You're not missing anything. They all require using the TVs internal tuner for one of the windows.

My Vizio doesn't require the tuner (you can use anything except a second HDMI). It does allow component or computer for the second.

 

[Phil Tomaskovic]

Actually on the Sony tvs, you can use 1 hdmi and one non-hdmi (which does not have to be the built in tuner). I do 2 tivo's, one on hdmi and the other on component video.

 

[dfp]

Thanks guys. The computer and TV sounds good. But I'd just like to watch any 2 football games at once, like I did on my 2-tuner 2001 Sony XBR450 CRT, albeit not in HD.


On my 2008 Samsung I've split the cable before the box and, at best, can watch any channel in the main window, using cable box and HDMI, and watch local broadcast channels in the PIP window, using the internal tuner and straight coax. No simultaneous ESPN and ESPN2 for me, since Comcast encrypted even SD cable channels on the coax.


Even if a TV did allow 2 HDMI inputs, I'd need 2 cable boxes, anyway. Then I might as well set up an adjacent set. That's it. I'll run it by my wife.

 

[dad1153]

The Vizio XVT "58 (a 21:9 set) supports PIP and POP: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1417773/official-vizio-xvt3dxx0cm-21-9-cinemawide-owners-thread/90#post_22708641 . When I get a chance I'll hook a Blu-ray and HD-DVD players to separate HDMI inputs to see if this bad boy can do both.

 

[Luke M]



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Originally Posted by dfp  /t/1416115/any-led-tvs-that-do-pip-pop-with-2-hdmi-inputs#post_22143154


On my 2008 Samsung I've split the cable before the box and, at best, can watch any channel in the main window, using cable box and HDMI, and watch local broadcast channels in the PIP window, using the internal tuner and straight coax. No simultaneous ESPN and ESPN2 for me, since Comcast encrypted even SD cable channels on the coax.

Comcast gives you up to 2 SD cable boxes 'free'. Use one of those.

 

[dfp]



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Originally Posted by Luke M  /t/1416115/any-led-tvs-that-do-pip-pop-with-2-hdmi-inputs#post_22709592


Comcast gives you up to 2 SD cable boxes 'free'. Use one of those.

Excellent idea! To be clear, you mean splitting the cable before the main cable box and running the extra lead to the free SD box connected to the RF tuner input, right? Have you tried this?

 

[Luke M]



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Originally Posted by dfp  /t/1416115/any-led-tvs-that-do-pip-pop-with-2-hdmi-inputs#post_22713746


Excellent idea! To be clear, you mean splitting the cable before the main cable box and running the extra lead to the free SD box connected to the RF tuner input, right? Have you tried this?

Yes, I do this myself.

 

[dfp]



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Originally Posted by Luke M  /t/1416115/any-led-tvs-that-do-pip-pop-with-2-hdmi-inputs#post_22714366


Yes, I do this myself.

Great idea. Thanks.

 

[Luke M]

I found out that Comcast started charging $2/month for the formerly free cable boxes as of January 1. So back they went. Now I can only do PIP with unencrypted channels (locals and CSPAN-1).

 

[dfp]



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Originally Posted by Luke M  /t/1416115/any-led-tvs-that-do-pip-pop-with-2-hdmi-inputs#post_22835795


I found out that Comcast started charging $2/month for the formerly free cable boxes as of January 1. So back they went. Now I can only do PIP with unencrypted channels (locals and CSPAN-1).

Found that yesterday when the bill came. If you read the fine print on the 2013 price list pamphlet they recently sent out, they now charge for the first two, then any DTA after that is free. Also, DVR price went up from $ 7 to 8. Also, fyi, since my DVR had to be replaced, the new one seems to have 5 times the capacity.

 

[IHSystems]

This is an older thread but it comes up first when I google "picture in picture HDMI" so I'm gonna respond with what I've found.

I haven't tried it yet but regardless of the TV's capabilities I found this: newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA07R1ZR6330 (FosPower 4x1 4 port HDMI switch with Picture in Picture model# FOSAV-10012)

It looks like it'll handle the PiP and output it as a single image as far as the TV is concerned. Not sure how it muxes the various HDMI streams such as audio to TV or audio return channels and such but if you're just looking for basic picture in picture at the display, it looks like this can handle it.

 

[Redbeard25]

This is an older thread but it comes up first when I google "picture in picture HDMI" so I'm gonna respond with what I've found.

I haven't tried it yet but regardless of the TV's capabilities I found this: newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA07R1ZR6330 (FosPower 4x1 4 port HDMI switch with Picture in Picture model# FOSAV-10012)

It looks like it'll handle the PiP and output it as a single image as far as the TV is concerned. Not sure how it muxes the various HDMI streams such as audio to TV or audio return channels and such but if you're just looking for basic picture in picture at the display, it looks like this can handle it.

Check the reviews on it:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HANWC10/?m=A21E2GQRWA2Y0Y&keywords=FosPower+4-Port+HDMI+Switch

The PIP appears to be fixed, and the IR command for it is the same as "power off" on a Vizio TV. (!)