[Shadow Lord]

Simple enough: any rumours of a Sony 1080p set (LCD or Plasam)? The Sony Model FAQ on this thread goes up to last year only... Thanx...

 

[silver71]

Sony has a 70 inch SXRD rear projection 1080P set coming out in January. AFAIK, they have no LCD coming anytime soon. They do however, have a 1080P LCD 23" computer monitor.


As for plasma Sony doesn't make there own panels, so you would need to wait until some other manufacture develops 1080P panel that Sony would use. Maybe Sony might OEM one of the 70 or 71 inch Samsung or LG 1080P PDP's that are coming out, but know news of that and I wouldn't hold my breath for that either.

 

[CraiginNJ]

Search the threads for "Qualia" and read the thread titled "Sony unveils new flat TVs - old news?" for starters.


In short, I get the impression there'll be a couple LCD's in the Spring.


Craig

 

[Shadow Lord]

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Originally posted by CraiginNJ Search the threads for "Qualia" and read the thread titled "Sony unveils new flat TVs - old news?" for starters. In short, I get the impression there'll be a couple LCD's in the Spring. Craig

Thanx for the linkage... The Qualia TV's sound exciting but my understanding was that Qualia was saved for Japan only...


I guess the real question I should be asking is do we need 1080p (or even 1080i)... Yes I understand we need it but how much quality difference would I see in the Sony 45in LCD XBR and the Sharp Aquos 46inch w/ 1080p WITH todays signals?


Anyone care to share their experiences w/ this?

 

[CraiginNJ]

Where did you get the impression that Qualia's were only for Japan? I can't imagine Sony deciding to not have any 1080 LCD TV on the market within half a year of when their competitors do.



Craig

 

[John Mason]

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Originally posted by Shadow Lord Thanx for the linkage... The Qualia TV's sound exciting but my understanding was that Qualia was saved for Japan only... I guess the real question I should be asking is do we need 1080p (or even 1080i)... Yes I understand we need it but how much quality difference would I see in the Sony 45in LCD XBR and the Sharp Aquos 46inch w/ 1080p WITH todays signals? Anyone care to share their experiences w/ this?

There are numerous posts from owners of Sony's 1080p Qualia FP (see the digital projector forum). 1080p, which has come to mean being able to display 1920X1080 fully, although only test patterns provide that now, seems valuable for displaying all the gradual improvements in resolvable detail expected for 1080i programming. 1080p setups deinterlace to the progressive format. Also, as I understand it, the Sony Qualia FP can handle 24p (segmented frame) recordings available now on Microsoft-encoded hi-def DVDs, and the 1080p formats possible with other upcoming hi-def DVDs. Also, you'd expect enhanced images from most video sources fed into a wide-bandwidth 1080p displays, providing high-quality upscaling and/or deinterlacing is used and the original signal isn't poor quality. -- John

 

[Joel]

The new Qualia set will be available in the US in January, or so Sony has announced. Initial distribution will be via their Qualia stores in NY and Las Vegas and by phone. Check out the thread in the RPTV forum; search for the word "bandwagon," the thread is entitled "Sony jumps on the something-something bandwagon," or some such. Price is 10k. All Qualia products are available in the US via these stores or other dealers.

There is a qualia website too but it has no info on this set.


Cheers

 

[Shadow Lord]

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Originally posted by CraiginNJ Where did you get the impression that Qualia's were only for Japan? I can't imagine Sony deciding to not have any 1080 LCD TV on the market within half a year of when their competitors do. Craig

Well originally when I heard about Qualia it was in regards to the camera a few years back... The article then mentioned that the Qualia line was only available in Japan... Concurently I found a website of an import/export group who wanted to bring the line to the US independently... This was all before the opening of the store in NY (which I found out about last night through your linkage..) and the sony website...

 

[Shadow Lord]

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Originally posted by John Mason There are numerous posts from owners of Sony's 1080p Qualia FP (see the digital projector forum). 1080p, which has come to mean being able to display 1920X1080 fully, although only test patterns provide that now, seems valuable for displaying all the gradual improvements in resolvable detail expected for 1080i programming. 1080p setups deinterlace to the progressive format. Also, as I understand it, the Sony Qualia FP can handle 24p (segmented frame) recordings available now on Microsoft-encoded hi-def DVDs, and the 1080p formats possible with other upcoming hi-def DVDs. Also, you'd expect enhanced images from most video sources fed into a wide-bandwidth 1080p displays, providing high-quality upscaling and/or deinterlacing is used and the original signal isn't poor quality. -- John

Thanx for the info...



My concern is that with all the upconverting (specially from low quality signals (e.g. SD)) that picture quality will suffer. To be honest I am not quite sure how upconverting works. In my mind I see it just like zooming a picture on the computer which introduces artifacts and jaggies...



BTW: The threads I read through just mentioned that the TV had a 1080 resolution... But not if it was i or p. Do you know for fact it is a P or are you basing this on the fact that the projector is a 1080p. Again thanx for all the help.

 

[Shadow Lord]

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Originally posted by Joel The new Qualia set will be available in the US in January, or so Sony has announced. Initial distribution will be via their Qualia stores in NY and Las Vegas and by phone. Check out the thread in the RPTV forum; search for the word "bandwagon," the thread is entitled "Sony jumps on the something-something bandwagon," or some such. Price is 10k. All Qualia products are available in the US via these stores or other dealers. There is a qualia website too but it has no info on this set. Cheers

Thanx for the info... I was not planning on buying until the holidays and guess can wait to see what info comes out closer to the event... 10K is not too bad if you consider that the 42inch KDL-XBR950 costs the same but does not have true 1080 resolution.... OR LED lighting..

 

[rogo]

"10K is not too bad if you consider that the 42inch KDL-XBR950 costs the same "


The 42-inch XBR is $8000. The 50-inch is $10,000.


Very good non-XBR plasmas from Sony are $5500 and $7000 respectively.


Not apples to apples.

 

[Shadow Lord]

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Originally posted by rogo "10K is not too bad if you consider that the 42inch KDL-XBR950 costs the same " The 42-inch XBR is $8000. The 50-inch is $10,000. Very good non-XBR plasmas from Sony are $5500 and $7000 respectively. Not apples to apples.

True, if you are comparing Plasma TVs to LCDs.... I was however comparing Sony's current TOP of the line LCD to the Qualia. From the Sonystyle site:


42" LCD WEGAâ„¢ Flat Panel HDTV KDL-42XBR950 $ 9,999.99


Linkage: http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...KU=KDL42XBRKIT


I believe you are reffering to:


42" XBR® Plasma WEGA™ HDTV KDE-42XBR950 $ 7,999.99.

 

[rogo]

Whoops....


Sheepishly exiting....

 

[orogogus]

Well my couple of cents about the pricing. Comparing the SXRD to the LCD is a bit disingenuous, but at least consistent in terms of MSRP, since I doubt you will get a online dealer of Qualia TVs any time soon. Although, you can find Sony LCD and plasma XBRs online for less than MSRP. Mainly I just wanted to add that anyone that pays MSRP that doesn't have to (because the product is only available from B&Ms) is a fool (especially for a non-Sony product). But I guess if you are in the head-space of paying way too much for an underperforming technology (LCD) and comparing that to paying way too little (IMO) for a vastly superior one (SXRD/LCoS) when both are from the same generally overpriced company, then yeah I guess that's OK. =)

 

[stephenC]

Sony Qualia 004 is a front projector SXRD unit with 1920x1080p resolution.

Sony Qualia 005 (KDX-46Q005) is a LCD direct-view set with LED backlighting.

Sony KDS-70XBR100 Grand Vega is the new SXRD rear projection unit.


Given these marketing model numbers, I think the new SXRD RPTV will be not be marketed under the Qualia name but the Sony Grand Vega XBR line. I really only have the model number naming convention to assume this, but it might be a good pointer. From what I can tell in the press releases, the prices for the 46" LCD unit (Qualia 005) and the 70" RPTV will be about the same (MSRP US$10000).

 

[rogo]

" I think the new SXRD RPTV will be not be marketed under the Qualia name but the Sony Grand Vega XBR line"


Actually, in spite of that model number being announced, it's the Qualia shops that are expected to get this model first. In fact, at the Sony Qualia store they are saying, "You can only get it here for the time being at least."


Mark

 

[Joel]

Yes, Rogo is correct (as usual). The original press release had an XBR product number but at CEDIA Sony clarified that it will be released as a Qualia model only.


There is a very long thread on the new SXRD tv in the RPTV forum that is highly recommended, here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ight=bandwagon


No posts for awhile because nothing new to report.


Cheers

 

[Shadow Lord]

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Originally posted by orogogus Well my couple of cents about the pricing. Comparing the SXRD to the LCD is a bit disingenuous, but at least consistent in terms of MSRP, since I doubt you will get a online dealer of Qualia TVs any time soon. Although, you can find Sony LCD and plasma XBRs online for less than MSRP. Mainly I just wanted to add that anyone that pays MSRP that doesn't have to (because the product is only available from B&Ms) is a fool (especially for a non-Sony product). But I guess if you are in the head-space of paying way too much for an underperforming technology (LCD) and comparing that to paying way too little (IMO) for a vastly superior one (SXRD/LCoS) when both are from the same generally overpriced company, then yeah I guess that's OK. =)

Not quite sure what you are saying... Are you saying the SXRD/LCoS is superior to LCD and since they cost the same you would buy the SXRD rear projection?


If that is correct and true it is an interesting point except for the fact that I can not hang a rear projection TV over my fireplace....

 

[CraiginNJ]

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I can not hang a rear projection TV over my fireplace....

... And I cannot fit anything but a thin TV in the narrow living room of my condo without ruining the esthetics and style of the room. (I have no other rooms to put a full sized TV in.)


Craig

 

[Shadow Lord]

I called the Qualia store and was told they know nothing... Sometiem fall or early next year (I guess that means it is definetly not in the winter ) So put my name down w/ a promise to call me as SOON as they know something... For wahtever thats good for... I'd really like to see thsi TV before the holidays... Oh Well...