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Anyone see new Runco VX-2 3-Chip At CEDIA? Any thoughts? Thanks.
Anyone see new Runco VX-2 3-Chip At CEDIA?
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I'm fairly sure that the latest Runco 3 chip is the VX-6 and it was not on display for mortals at the show.
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I thought there was a VX-2, VX-4, and VX-6, to compliment the VX-3 and VX-5. I could be wrong (again).
| Originally posted by Art Sonneborn I'm fairly sure that the latest Runco 3 chip is the VX-6 and it was not on display for mortals at the show. Art |
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I'd say I'm mostly right 
More important, have you seen them? Do you have an opinion? What about the VX-2 vs. the Sony SXRD?
| Originally posted by D6500Ken You're both right... and wrong. The VX-2 (using the Mercury 720p chipset) represents the entry level of the Runco 3-chip DLP line. The VX-4 replaces the VX-3 and the VX-6 replaces the VX-5. Ken Whitcomb |
More important, have you seen them? Do you have an opinion? What about the VX-2 vs. the Sony SXRD?
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I've seen them all (I helped set up Runco's dealer-only room).
However, Runco is still working on their proprietary software for the VX-2 so I was unable to calibrate it. Therefore, any opinion would be based solely on speculation (of what the finished product might actually be capable of).
That said, it was very impressive driven by DVD through a DVI digital chain.
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However, Runco is still working on their proprietary software for the VX-2 so I was unable to calibrate it. Therefore, any opinion would be based solely on speculation (of what the finished product might actually be capable of).
That said, it was very impressive driven by DVD through a DVI digital chain.
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Well , in my experience Ken, you are almost always right ( I had to qualify that a little )
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Interesting. So, if you were forced to guess (and knowing it's only a guess based on limited information), ignoring price difference would you go for the VX-2 or the Sony SXRD? Seems to me like the VX-2 is the ultimate evolution of the 3-chip high end home DLP, but the SXRD is the start of true affordable full HD, and I'm pretty up in the air between them... (I'm probably buying late this year early next so the time table for both suits me)
Thanks for the help.
| Originally posted by D6500Ken I've seen them all (I helped set up Runco's dealer-only room). However, Runco is still working on their proprietary software for the VX-2 so I was unable to calibrate it. Therefore, any opinion would be based solely on speculation (of what the finished product might actually be capable of). That said, it was very impressive driven by DVD through a DVI digital chain. Ken Whitcomb |
Thanks for the help.
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thegratingone,
You've asked the $64,000 question. I'd be very very surprised if you get an answer. In fact, to get that question answered in an even reasonably unbiased fashion on this forum at all , will not happen.
Art
You've asked the $64,000 question. I'd be very very surprised if you get an answer. In fact, to get that question answered in an even reasonably unbiased fashion on this forum at all , will not happen.
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Hey, I gave the massive caveat that I know they're total guesses right now. Nobody will be liable for ex post wrong answers
| Originally posted by Art Sonneborn thegratingone, You've asked the $64,000 question. I'd be very very surprised if you get an answer. In fact, to get that question answered in an even reasonably unbiased fashion on this forum at all , will not happen. Art |
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I'm redesigning my HT right now and the answers to the questions you are asking now are very very important to me. I'd like a 11.5' 16x9 screen and a PJ that would give the best possible image on that screen right now.
Art
I'm redesigning my HT right now and the answers to the questions you are asking now are very very important to me. I'd like a 11.5' 16x9 screen and a PJ that would give the best possible image on that screen right now.
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Rumor has it that this device ain't ready for prime time. The blend area is visible and it may be not possible to get rid of it's visibility via calibration. I wish it weren't so.
Art
| Originally posted by REW The correct answer is 2-9500LC and Folsom Displaypro. |
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Guys!
We'll know for sure in a few weeks; release is targeted for November, and 10-bit blend modulation is on the menu!
We'll know for sure in a few weeks; release is targeted for November, and 10-bit blend modulation is on the menu!
Anytime QQQ says you are wrong,
what a relief,it means you are on the right track with the right people.
Notice he doesnt give his solution!
Art,
I guess those screen shots posted via Alan Gouger of Tims demo were covering up the seam.Funny,he didnt mention it.Tim,Wisdom tech Mike,Steve B,they all missed telling us too.Its a conspiracy!By the very people we were sure are not vision challenged.
Could we please hear your solution,as someone who at least has run a CRT stack and might have an idea of a good picture.
what a relief,it means you are on the right track with the right people.
Notice he doesnt give his solution!
Art,
I guess those screen shots posted via Alan Gouger of Tims demo were covering up the seam.Funny,he didnt mention it.Tim,Wisdom tech Mike,Steve B,they all missed telling us too.Its a conspiracy!By the very people we were sure are not vision challenged.
Could we please hear your solution,as someone who at least has run a CRT stack and might have an idea of a good picture.
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And we all know a low resolution screen shot would reveal subtle details, don't we .
What was that about having an idea of a good picture?
BTW, you were wrong because you didn't choose two Sony G-90's. But the 9500LC is nice too.
I haven't seen the Folsom so I can't comment. However, I would think that Tim's comment in response to Art was an acknowledgement that there are some issues, otherwise he would have just denied the issues Art mentioned.
| Originally posted by REW I guess those screen shots posted via Alan Gouger of Tims demo were covering up the seam.Funny,he didnt mention it. Could we please hear your solution,as someone who at least has run a CRT stack and might have an idea of a good picture. |
.What was that about having an idea of a good picture?
BTW, you were wrong because you didn't choose two Sony G-90's. But the 9500LC is nice too.
I haven't seen the Folsom so I can't comment. However, I would think that Tim's comment in response to Art was an acknowledgement that there are some issues, otherwise he would have just denied the issues Art mentioned.
Au contraire,
I think he was wisely saying that Folsom's selling version will be tested shortly,as opposed to the prototype that they had previously.
Then the results will be binding on the nitpickers.
He is confident.
And yes people who saw the first demo were positive without needing the help of those coverup photos.
I think he was wisely saying that Folsom's selling version will be tested shortly,as opposed to the prototype that they had previously.
Then the results will be binding on the nitpickers.
He is confident.
And yes people who saw the first demo were positive without needing the help of those coverup photos.
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REW,
Understand my perspective and then I think you will understand my post. I've been searching for at least the past 18 months for a PJ/PJs that will light up an 11'-12' screen but not sacrifice quality. That is , one that will look as good or better than what now have, but on this larger screen. I'm still looking. Stacks are the hard and expensive road to that goal and there are dangerously few options there. If this Folsum product does the job then this might be the best of all worlds. I fully expected to get some rebuttal on my "rumor has it" statement , from a technical perspective, but that hasn't happened yet.
I've had a few PMs that have asked me not to use their names in the open forum as well as talk at CEDIA of this. Other than getting the best I can for my HT, I have no agenda or political underpinnings going on here.
Art
Understand my perspective and then I think you will understand my post. I've been searching for at least the past 18 months for a PJ/PJs that will light up an 11'-12' screen but not sacrifice quality. That is , one that will look as good or better than what now have, but on this larger screen. I'm still looking. Stacks are the hard and expensive road to that goal and there are dangerously few options there. If this Folsum product does the job then this might be the best of all worlds. I fully expected to get some rebuttal on my "rumor has it" statement , from a technical perspective, but that hasn't happened yet.
I've had a few PMs that have asked me not to use their names in the open forum as well as talk at CEDIA of this. Other than getting the best I can for my HT, I have no agenda or political underpinnings going on here.
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Guys!
As we stated very clearly, the July demo was done with prototype hardware. The scaling capabilities of the ScreenPro device were very impressive, especially inputting 1080i HD off the satellite and outputting 1080p, the image was essentially flawless. The demo blend device had 8-bit gamma control, the production DisplayPro unit is promised to have 10-bit gamma as well as eight inputs, each input can be configured for composite, S, YPrPb or RGBHV, so we are talking serious versatility here. We were also promised a more user-friendly onboard firmware. If all is on track then November will see high-end CRT completely redefined for users wanting big lumens on screens over 100" wide!
As we stated very clearly, the July demo was done with prototype hardware. The scaling capabilities of the ScreenPro device were very impressive, especially inputting 1080i HD off the satellite and outputting 1080p, the image was essentially flawless. The demo blend device had 8-bit gamma control, the production DisplayPro unit is promised to have 10-bit gamma as well as eight inputs, each input can be configured for composite, S, YPrPb or RGBHV, so we are talking serious versatility here. We were also promised a more user-friendly onboard firmware. If all is on track then November will see high-end CRT completely redefined for users wanting big lumens on screens over 100" wide!
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