[videobruce]

I really don't know where to begin.


I still can not resolve this issue of waking the system back out of hibernation without using another application other than MyIRC to do a timed recording.

I can not get MyHD to 'wake' the system back up.

If I use a 'helper' application (Suspend Test), that will wake the system up without issue. Once woke, it will record ok. Digital Connection tells me the command(s) are thru the MyIRC using some kind of TCP/IP protocol. The MB manufacture blames the problem on the software/hardware. DG blames me for incorrect settings in the bios.


If I could get a exact understanding just what/where the command is sent before the system goes into hibernation I might be able to narrow it down somewhat. I have gone through the bios more than I can remember and surely more than I have in the last 6 years with all the other systems I have worked on.


What I have done:

Loaded fail safe AND optimized defaults

Checked PS voltages

Reloaded the O/S more than once

Updated the bios

Tried XP Pro (I'm using 2k w/sp4)

Changed MB's (both with the nForce 2 chipset)

Changed s/w versions from 1.63 to 1.65

Virus checks

Started as many Windows services I could find even though most I have never used.

Enabled as much in the bios as I could see that might have something to do with this.


The only thing I haven't done is change the memory and processor, but that would have to be the longest of longshots I could imagine. I have asked this in other forums and the stock answer is; hibernation has problems with many devices.


BTW, this did work for the first 2 months..........


First board: Epox 8-RDA

current board: Abit NF7-S v2

 

[videobruce]

Guess NO one has this combination here................


I got a response from Copperbox when I enguired into this and they admit they HAVE seen this issue! It seems to have something to do with the video overlay drivers.

 

[fventura]

I use nforce2 board and myhd120 but leave the htpc on all the time...so sorry I'm no help to you.

 

[videobruce]

No wonder there is a energy shortage.........

"When not is use, turn off the juice."


Ever try hibernation and see if wake up works?

 

[DPlettner]

I have MyHD 120's in two nForce2 boards, a Gigabyte GA-7N400 Pro2 and a Gigabyte GA-7NNXP. Hibernate and standby work great for both motherboards using MyHD and other apps. In addition, it has worked well for many recent versions of the MyHD software and drivers.


We are using the same chipset, the same MyHD software, and you tried XP Pro (which is what I am using). Since you tried different OS's, I assume you tried a clean install of XP or 2K and just installed MyHD to ensure that no other software is interfering. You might also want to try pulling all other PCI cards and removing any USB/Firewire devices.


If hibernate/standby is still not working, it would seem like it would have to be the motherboard or BIOS. However, you tried two different motherboard brands, so that seems unlikely too. I am stumped.


-Dave


Edit: You probably have done this, but in the BIOS, make sure you have S3(STR) selected for the ACPI Suspend Type in the Power Management Setup.

 

[videobruce]

I tried S1 and S3.

One would think it is the MB/bios, but now I question that since it is with two MB's and the fact external programs eg. WakeUp, will wake the system up ok (I use something called Suspend test).


I now think it might be the video card since that is one of the devices that has been with both boards. I'm going to try different drivers and see what happens. I wanted to try it without the video drivers, but as I found out there is no hibernation option with the stock VGA driver (thanks M$ for NOT having a FAQ specifically on this).


I did strip the system down to nothing but the video card and the MyHD w/daughterboard, but no difference.


If I remember correctly I believe when the problem first appeared, it do so intermittently. Then it got to a point it failed completely (almost as a electronic component failure).


I have never done so many things to troubleshoot a single issue as this with ALL the systems I have worked on in the past 6 years...............


Of course if the Korean manufacture would have their OWN support, it may not of been a problem!

 

[vfrjim]

Sorry, Videobruce, I was away for the last 3 days and now just saw your thread. I have the MDP-120 and a Abit NF7-S v.2 and have none of the problems that you are experiencing. I am able to wake from hibernation, S3 and S4 with no problems with WinXP SP1a (SP2 has issues which prevents PC from going into hiberation). I do not use the on-board sound card (I use the M-audio delta 410), I use a Radeon 7500 and also have a Twinhan 1020A DVB-s (Satellite tuner card). In addition, I also have the HD5000 USB recording system (from my HDD-200 HD decoder) they all wake from hibernation with no problems. I do not know what to suggest but a clean install with WinXP SP1a, certified drivers and known "working" beta drivers and a PSU that has proper voltages to allow the PC to wake up.


Jim

 

[videobruce]

There is no S3 & S4 in the bios, just S1 & S3.

Where did you see those?

I am using the on board audio and I use 2k since I do not like XP. The fact it DID work orginally and then stop working has had me stumped all this time. It almost makes me think it was a fluke at first........


Do you limit services from loading at startup (excessive M$ and other program/driver bloat)?

 

[Kei Clark]

Quote:

Of course if the Korean manufacture would have their OWN support, it may not of been a problem!

Why would you think that?

 

[vfrjim]

Quote:

Originally posted by videobruce There is no S3 & S4 in the bios, just S1 & S3. Where did you see those? I am using the on board audio and I use 2k since I do not like XP. The fact it DID work orginally and then stop working has had me stumped all this time. It almost makes me think it was a fluke at first........ Do you limit services from loading at startup (excessive M$ and other program/driver bloat)?

S1 and S3 are the only options in the bios, BUT the Owner's Manual states S3/S4 usb wake up and I know that it works.


I do limit the garbage that MS loads at start up to keep it slim. I have two of these motherboards and they both support S3/S4 wakes with no problems on WinXP, it should work fine with Win2k, as long as you have all the correct drivers.


Jim

 

[StormCrow]

I put my mdp100 in my Nforce2 when I got a 120 for my P4 system.


It has been flawless in waking and going back to sleep in hibernate.


I did start using hibernate...in my case S3 worked Ok...but seems like the stored RAM data can get corrupted, since occasionaly the PC would reboot out of the blue after waking from S3.


Very happy with Hibernate...it will also allow waking even if there is a power interuption while asleep.


I also use win 2K sp4 on this unit.

 

[videobruce]

Quote:

Originally posted by Kei Clark Why would you think that?

I thought that would get some response.

Because:

two heads are better than one,

it makes more sense for the people who write the s/w and manufacture the product to support it vs relying on support from a dealer that sells this and many other items which probably need support also.
Quote:

BUT the Owner's Manual states S3/S4 usb wake up and I know that it works.

Ok, what does the USB ports have to do with the serial port?


These specific bios settings are set as follows;

Enhance PCI performance- enabled,

USB2 device compatibility- enabled,

IEEE1394 controller- disabled,

LAN boot ROM- disabled,

Serial controller- disabled,

Serial port 1- auto,

Serial port 2- disabled,

Parallel port- disabled


For this one;

WakeUp by PME# of PCI- enabled

anyone tell me what "PME#" is?

 

[vfrjim]

Quote:

Ok, what does the USB ports have to do with the serial port?

Nothing, It just supports a wake-up from S3/S4 modes via a USB device (such as a mouse/KB)


Did you try to schedule a task to wake up the computer and run a basic task such as the "Calculator"? Remember, a password has to be assigned to the user account that you are trying to do this with for it to work correctly. Also, remember, to schedule a task, go to the control panel, click on "Scheduled Tasks", create the task that you want to try then at the end go to the "advanced options" settings and check the box to "wake up the computer" then hibernate your PC and it should wake up and run the task if all is well.


Jim

 

[videobruce]

Quote:

If I use a 'helper' application (Suspend Test), that will wake the system up without issue.

It does wake with other programs! Another program called "WakeUp" works fine also. It's just withy this program nothing happens. If I let the system run, it will startup and record, but the system has to left on all the time, something I don't do!


For the fun of it (not that I haven't had enough already), I tried XP on this MB, but it still doesn't work which leads me back to the bios.

 

[vfrjim]

Hey Videobruce,

Today I updated my media server/ analog PVR to a new motherboard, an Asus A7V880 and I have to say this is one badass board. It goes into standby in 1 second flat and wakes in 4 seconds, also it has gigabit LAN on board and I set it to wake up if a share is requested and it wakes right up, if the requested share is not used in 10 minutes, it goes back to sleep. Also, BeyondTV works perfectly with the AVermedia 150 tuner card, no problems waking up from hibernation or standby. Just a FYI for you incase you are shopping for a new board, best thing was that it was under $70 from Newegg, heck they had one in the refurb area for under $40 shipped.


Jim

 

[videobruce]

I just bought a new board that I didn't need as it is!
Quote:

WakeUp by PME# of PCI- enabled anyone tell me what "PME#" is?

anyone?

 

[TPeterson]

Bruce--


I've used MyHD with both Win2k and XP with no wake-up problems for a couple of years of app releases now. Since you say that it used to work on your PC, I'm thinking that this is most likely a software change-induced problem (but not MyHD, since it didn't start failing on Dave's NForce systems). What other sw changes did you make around the time that the failures started?


Storm Crow--


Watch out--I discovered to my dismay that hibernate does not provide wake-up ridethrough of power outages! It's counterintuitive but power glitches will throw hibernating PC scheduled wake-ups for a loop. I finally bit the bullet and put the HTPC on a UPS for this reason.

 

[videobruce]

The processor, video card, memory and PSU are used with the new MB also with no results.

I would understand if these other programs (WakeUp and SuspendTest) DIDN'T work, but they do bring the box out of hibernation. It even worked by itself when I had the WOL enabled which surprised me. Just woke up by itself when I was using the 2nd system.


Also, I'm using the same O/S; 2kpro with SP 4 slipstreamed, the same DX9.0c with the newest nForce 2 UDP (from last summer).