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Just wondering if there is a HDD based player out there that is more sophisticated than the CDR-HD1500 in terms of storing different types of music together, and/or playlists. I like the idea of a redbook .wav file storage device for audio. It's also not easy to find the CDR-HD1500 for sale anywhere since it is so old. Is there anything that compares or improves on the older Yamaha CDR-HD1500?


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P.S. I suppose one could use a laptop or PC with an external HDD...but it would most certainly need to have digital output. At least a laptop/PC would have quite the interface. Still, it would be nice to have a more sophisticated CDR-HD1500 type player out there.
 

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Just wondering if there is a HDD based player out there that is more sophisticated than the CDR-HD1500 in terms of storing different types of music together, and/or playlists. I like the idea of a redbook .wav file storage device for audio. It's also not easy to find the CDR-HD1500 for sale anywhere since it is so old. Is there anything that compares or improves on the older Yamaha CDR-HD1500?


thanks in advance,




P.S. I suppose one could use a laptop or PC with an external HDD...but it would most certainly need to have digital output. At least a laptop/PC would have quite the interface. Still, it would be nice to have a more sophisticated CDR-HD1500 type player out there.

I am also looking for a similar thing. It looks like the CDR-1500 will be discontinued as I cant find it at any of the well known internet dealers.

The CDR-1500 is very convienient as I dont have to use a PC/Laptop.

Too bad it is gone or probably gone.
 

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I think there are other things you can use for this purpose, but I like the simplicity of the Yamaha CDR-HD1500 component. With a 400 GB hdd upgrade, I'd have more than enough room. I think this style of component is not popular because:


a) Units that do this type of thing are more geared towards multi-media such as video and streaming, rather than ripping and storing.

b) People are satisfied with less storage when they use MP3's.....I like the mass storage capability to store full redbook cd copies of my cd's in wav files.


Hopefully I'll find something out there. If worse came to worse, I suppose I could make an HTPC for this purpose, but again, I'd need a display. I just want a simple front display showing folders and playlists etc.
 

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I guess I should feel pretty lucky to get the cdr-1500 when I did if they are no longer available. I was feeling like I jumped the gun since it won't play SACD's but for recording regular cd's it does an outstanding job.
 

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I wonder if one could use a PS3 with a USB HDD attached to do what I want to do? Has anybody done this?
 

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Have you considered a Sonos or Squeezebox Duet? Sonos if you're less techy and just want something that works (but is more expensive) or Duet if you like to fiddle.


Both systems have outstanding navigation menus for music playback. The PS3 is awful in this regard.
 

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Have you considered a Sonos or Squeezebox Duet? Sonos if you're less techy and just want something that works (but is more expensive) or Duet if you like to fiddle.


Both systems have outstanding navigation menus for music playback. The PS3 is awful in this regard.

Gotcha. Either way, I just realized that I'd need to use a display each time I wanted to chose music.
 

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Gotcha. Either way, I just realized that I'd need to use a display each time I wanted to chose music.

...no need to use a display...

Sonos and Logitech Duet both have nice hand-held remotes, both can be controlled by software players and both have ipod touch/iphone apps (the Sonos one is free).


I just re-read your original post, these players will play WAV files but since tagging options are limited for WAV files - the best option is store your music in a lossless format.


...don't know if you want to go through the time in re-ripping though...
 

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I've not ripped anything yet. What other format's are there other than .wav files? Are there other lossless file formats I could use?
 

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I am currently building a PC for this purpose. It isn't very expensive if you are building for this sole purpose. Also, they make vacuum fluorescent displays for HTPC's as well. A feature that is important for me, and one of my primary reasons for going this route, is the ability to have mirrored hard drives. This allows for redundancy, so as to avoid literally hundreds of hours of rip time in the event the drive fails. This option is also great for future upgrades/repairs, which can become a nuisance for this type of device.
 

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An HTPC/Media PC is certainly an option for this. I was hoping to keep build/buy costs down and also keep electricity/power usage down. I guess if the right components are used it could be down without using too much juice.
 

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I've not ripped anything yet. What other format's are there other than .wav files? Are there other lossless file formats I could use?

see here -> http://www.sonos.com/howitworks/musi...&LangType=1033


and here -> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/sp...n=article_6060


Apple Lossless (which is what I use because I have an Ipod) and there's FLAC. Both formats are equal to the original wav file.


Both Apple Lossless and FLAC support full tagging - title, artist, genre, composer, album art, etc.
 

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I am currently building a PC for this purpose. It isn't very expensive if you are building for this sole purpose. Also, they make vacuum fluorescent displays for HTPC's as well. A feature that is important for me, and one of my primary reasons for going this route, is the ability to have mirrored hard drives. This allows for redundancy, so as to avoid literally hundreds of hours of rip time in the event the drive fails. This option is also great for future upgrades/repairs, which can become a nuisance for this type of device.


I have a ReadyNAS duo NAS drive connected to my home network which Itunes and SONOS access for music. The ReadyNAS has two hard drives and some form of RAID (the second drive is only used as a backup of the first). I also sync a FreeAgent Go drive periodically and keep that backup copy off-site.
 

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I have a ReadyNAS duo NAS drive connected to my home network which Itunes and SONOS access for music. The ReadyNAS has two hard drives and some form of RAID (the second drive is only used as a backup of the first). I also sync a FreeAgent Go drive periodically and keep that backup copy off-site.

Those are a great option as well! You would still need a computer to rip and play music though. Buying both of them could get costly.
 

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An HTPC/Media PC is certainly an option for this. I was hoping to keep build/buy costs down and also keep electricity/power usage down. I guess if the right components are used it could be down without using too much juice.

Computers use very low amounts of current. Especially one for this purpose. Also, costs start very low. You won't need a very powerful machine, and you can make incremental upgrades down the road if you so choose.
 

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It seems like this is component that got left in the cold by the manufactuers.


It would seem with lower HDD prices and computer power now, a stand alone version of this would be great for many people......I would love to replace my 200 disc CD jukebox, but right now, nothing compares to it in sound quality and ease of use. I have an iPod dock for my Denon AVR, tried to use USB input on Denon, as well as network audio on it, and nothing works as well as jukebox.


I have a Dell ZinoHD that I bought for the main idea of a music server, but I have yet to find a front-end and control system that is slick and bulletproof.


I would love to stack another black box in my system that has a CD player/burner, a 300+ gig HDD, and the ability to play without firing up the TV, but has a great looking front end if I did want to see album art and track/disc names.
 

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It seems like this is component that got left in the cold by the manufactuers.


It would seem with lower HDD prices and computer power now, a stand alone version of this would be great for many people......I would love to replace my 200 disc CD jukebox, but right now, nothing compares to it in sound quality and ease of use. I have an iPod dock for my Denon AVR, tried to use USB input on Denon, as well as network audio on it, and nothing works as well as jukebox.


I have a Dell ZinoHD that I bought for the main idea of a music server, but I have yet to find a front-end and control system that is slick and bulletproof.


I would love to stack another black box in my system that has a CD player/burner, a 300+ gig HDD, and the ability to play without firing up the TV, but has a great looking front end if I did want to see album art and track/disc names.

Exactly. Basically an improved CDR-HD1500 including higher capacity HDD support over 750 GB so you can store full bitrate wav files or equivalent.
 

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So since we all agree on what we would like is anyone making anything like that?


If not, what happened?? Seems a no-brainer to me, unless another victim of the mighty iPod.
 

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Maybe we should make them ourselves!


Seriously though, if only I could find a Yamaha for a decent price, I'd get one and connect the largest hdd it could support. Arrghh!
 

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As nice as these can be, the one fatal flaw is the single hard-drive design. If it dies, you get to rip all your music again. The bigger the hard drive, the more music, the bigger the problem. I wonder if it is possible to develop a purpose-built linux distro that would function with basic controls and only a front VF display. That would be ideal.
 
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