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Was just looking online at Cerwin Vega speakers. Are they any good? Does anyone out there have newer CV speakers? My uncle has 4 small floor standing CV speakers from back in the day and they sound pretty good.
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Originally Posted by flickhtguru /forum/post/18190636
Was just looking online at Cerwin Vega speakers. Are they any good? Does anyone out there have newer CV speakers? My uncle has 4 small floor standing CV speakers from back in the day and they sound pretty good.
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Originally Posted by flickhtguru /forum/post/18190636
Was just looking online at Cerwin Vega speakers. Are they any good? Does anyone out there have newer CV speakers? My uncle has 4 small floor standing CV speakers from back in the day and they sound pretty good.
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Originally Posted by diamonddelts /forum/post/18193099
It depends on what Vegas you are looking at. Most people unfairly judge them by constanly comparing 15+ year old models to many of today's current offerings from today's manufacturers. The other common notion of these speakers come from generic "when I was in college back in the 70's" views of these speakers when they catered towards college dorms and frat houses. But like most of America Cerwin Vega has grown up over time. Most of their new model speakers still excel in the mid bass dept. however they have really cleaned up the mids and highs of their current speaker lines.
But somehow the latter of what I said always gets lost in translation and people merely judge based on what was rather than having an open mind to what IS available from this company in today's marketplace. If you're a guy with a bottomless budget then don't look for miracles from a company who is not meant for your target market. However if you are someone on a budget of 1 grand and below for speakers Cerwin Vega has some very good offerings that offer a lot of value for the dollar at this time.
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Originally Posted by Paul Scarpelli /forum/post/18193922
I would much rather populate my theater with Cerwin Vegas than some little, froo-froo, 85 dB sensitivity weak sauce *audiophile* bookshelf speakers that couldn't reproduce the sound of a mouse fart at a realistic volume level.
Not that I have an opinion.
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Originally Posted by Emig5m /forum/post/18194957
Well I've owned Cerwin Vega for around 16 years. The last five years I noticed I had stopped listening to music through my loudspeakers all together but was constantly listening to music through my headphones as they had much better clarity and fine detail. Brought home a little set of B&W towers for an in home demo one day on a whim and was taken by surprise by what a little speaker from a higher end brand could do with clarity and detail and still play fairly loud.
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The Vegas factory specs where a 3-way with large 15" woofers @ 102dB 1w/1m, 400watt RMS, and 28Hz to 28,000Hz +/- 3dB and the B&Ws where only a 2½-way with only 6.5 in woofers, a 90dB sensitivity rating, 150watt power handling, and 44Hz - 22kHz +/-3dB so I wasn't expecting much. But there was so comparison for the raw sound quality performance. I still remember the very first song I played had a bird chirping in the beginning and the B&Ws was just so much more clearer, detailed, and airy with a more 3D-like soundstage and got me closer to the fine detail and clarity I was hearing from headphones. They got me listening to music again through loudspeakers.Someone else in the B&W thread had the same experience as me with larger higher spec'd Vegas vs smaller lower spec'd B&Ws with how impressed they smoked the Vegas with sound quality.
And they can still play loud enough to drown out your own voice...![]()
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Originally Posted by Emig5m /forum/post/18194957
Well I've owned Cerwin Vega for around 16 years. The last five years I noticed I had stopped listening to music through my loudspeakers all together but was constantly listening to music through my headphones as they had much better clarity and fine detail. Brought home a little set of B&W towers for an in home demo one day on a whim and was taken by surprise by what a little speaker from a higher end brand could do with clarity and detail and still play fairly loud.
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The Vegas factory specs where a 3-way with large 15" woofers @ 102dB 1w/1m, 400watt RMS, and 28Hz to 28,000Hz +/- 3dB and the B&Ws where only a 2½-way with only 6.5 in woofers, a 90dB sensitivity rating, 150watt power handling, and 44Hz - 22kHz +/-3dB so I wasn't expecting much. But there was so comparison for the raw sound quality performance. I still remember the very first song I played had a bird chirping in the beginning and the B&Ws was just so much more clearer, detailed, and airy with a more 3D-like soundstage and got me closer to the fine detail and clarity I was hearing from headphones. They got me listening to music again through loudspeakers.Someone else in the B&W thread had the same experience as me with larger higher spec'd Vegas vs smaller lower spec'd B&Ws with how impressed they smoked the Vegas with sound quality.
And they can still play loud enough to drown out your own voice...![]()
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Originally Posted by diamonddelts /forum/post/18195227
Like I said before. It's always the same generic story of a guy comparing modern day high end speakers to 15-20 year old Cerwin Vega speakers. It's about as useful as comparing a new 47" Samsung LED tv to an 20 year old 61" RCA projection tv and declaring that though the Samsung is smaller it still smokes the RCA in overall quality. A high end offering with today's technological advances catered towards those with much bigger budgets beats a budget priced offering from 20 years ago. Brilliant.
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Originally Posted by Emig5m /forum/post/18194957
Well I've owned Cerwin Vega for around 16 years. The last five years I noticed I had stopped listening to music through my loudspeakers all together but was constantly listening to music through my headphones as they had much better clarity and fine detail. Brought home a little set of B&W towers for an in home demo one day on a whim and was taken by surprise by what a little speaker from a higher end brand could do with clarity and detail and still play fairly loud.
![]()
The Vegas factory specs where a 3-way with large 15" woofers @ 102dB 1w/1m, 400watt RMS, and 28Hz to 28,000Hz +/- 3dB and the B&Ws where only a 2½-way with only 6.5 in woofers, a 90dB sensitivity rating, 150watt power handling, and 44Hz - 22kHz +/-3dB so I wasn't expecting much. But there was so comparison for the raw sound quality performance. I still remember the very first song I played had a bird chirping in the beginning and the B&Ws was just so much more clearer, detailed, and airy with a more 3D-like soundstage and got me closer to the fine detail and clarity I was hearing from headphones. They got me listening to music again through loudspeakers.Someone else in the B&W thread had the same experience as me with larger higher spec'd Vegas vs smaller lower spec'd B&Ws with how impressed they smoked the Vegas with sound quality.
And they can still play loud enough to drown out your own voice...![]()
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Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel /forum/post/18195748
Thanks for the information, but none of it really does answer the OP's question. He wanted to get information on newer Cerwin Vega speakers. He NEVER asked for a comparison test of OLD CV speakers against other brands. Here we go again. Some things never change around here. If you don't have any experience with the newer stuff, then why post? Forget about the older stuff at beer parties. Auditioning a speakers sound quality at a drunk fest and then expecting everyone to believe that is a fair test is not really fair. Those poor speakers where most likely having the S--T beat out of them at high volumes while being powered by some crappy receiver. Almost anything is going to sound bad while being played like that. Come on. Things have changed with Cerwin Vega a little since then. Im not saying you posted about beer party tests. I want to make that clear.
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Originally Posted by DamageMcRamage /forum/post/18195488
No, it's not the same old generic story. Display technology has changed markedly in the last 20 years; speaker technology has not. A good set of speakers 20 years ago is a good set today. While those B&W's may be higher end (so to speak) than the CV's, the man is of the opinion that he likes them better, and he has every right to state it. It wasn't as if he was comparing brand new Paradigm Sigs to 20 yr old Kraco car audio speakers.
We all understand you like CV's, I like CV's, but there is no need to posture every time an opinion is posted about them that you disagree with.
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Originally Posted by mjg100 /forum/post/18195418
You might want to check on this. I have never seen CV list a +/- response of their speakers. They just list it as a response to 28hz. Heck an 8" sealed sub can have a response listed down to 10hz as long as the cone has some movement at all. From what I am able to find, it looks like they are 150 watt RMS with 400 watt peaks. It would be nice if CV would give specs like most every other manufacturer.