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I am desperately looking for a 55" LCD or LED for mostly movies and gaming. I have a fairly lit room and I thought the Samsung 6000 or 8000 series (7000 is not worth extra money to me for aesthetics and internet gadgets) was the answer based on their beautiful display at BB. Like always, I did some research and I am very concerned about the lighting issues. So concerned, I think I am going to pass (although I really want to love the Sammy LEDs!!!)


Do I wait for second gen Sammy LEDs to see if lighting issue is corrected?



What is your opinion on the best 55" movie/gaming LCD?


I want to stick with BB inventory, unfortunately, because of the 3 year 0% interest...
 

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I'm with you on the 3 years no interest, hard to beat that deal.

What lighting issues? Honestly, I have spent several hours comparing the current products at BB, and I don't see anything that even comes close to the 8500; (other than maybe the 8000 or the local-dimmed 46 inch Sharp in my living room, which is going back for a bigger set) the picture on the 8500 is simply amazing due to the local dimming. Maybe I'm missing something, but C-Net gave the 8500 their top review of all LCDs they have tested...
"The bottom line: It costs a mint, but Samsung's local dimming, LED-based UNB8500 series delivers the best picture quality of any LCD we've tested."
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t....html?tag=also
 

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from someone who knows...... Pass!


i originally ordered the 47ln850lcd beautiful picture..BUT, clouding,IR issues and bezel color peeling. after 7 months and 4 different techs come out Samsung offered me the 46B750. i took it and guess what?


After a month of use IR issue came again it was there when i first got it but not as bad as time went on it got worse and i even tried numerous setting to resolve the issue. then i did the ghetto crap they told people to do "which from them telling me to do this i should have just dropped them back with the 850" i put tape over the IR on the cable box. still ticks me off to think about it
well it worked for like 2 weeks then the problem came back and no matter how much tape i used it would fix the issue. and then i noticed that the actual tv controller itself would work on the tv most of the time and that was the last straw. i called Samsung and told them its been 1 year and all i keep getting is JUNK! refund my loot or i report to BBB. they complied and refunded my money and sent me a check which i gladly took and purchased to new LCD screens for botht he bedroom and living room and both dont have an issue int he world and one even has a better picture then both the LCD's i got from Samsung and that would be the 46xv645U Toshiba!


i love Samsung or atleast i did i own alot of electronics fromt hem but when i went to spend the most money on their biggest product. i got dooked!

its your call but i would stay clear or if you get it from BB test the hell out of it for that 30 days so you can take it back if you get jumk.


BTW, clouding and flashlighting you wont see in BB because its not the right situation and you need to test that in a dark room or a dark movir which most of the time you wont see in BB.


Last but not leat never and i dont care what site or reveiwer you read from dont believe the hype what tv got the best reveiw. the only place to really find out about a tv is right here. take a look at the thread for the 8500 and you'll see it has its problems. sure the picture is awesome but the LCD itself makes clicking noises and flashes. for the price they want the last thing you wanna hear is a clicking noise


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Originally Posted by omeletpants /forum/post/18251563


The Samsung LEDs are fabulous. Best TV I have ever seen

+1, it's funny I saw the 8500 and the 8000 for the first time this week and I was stunned, especially the 8500; it kinda knocked me on my azz. The more I am reading about this set the more I learn, apparently Samsung got sued by Sharp over it and pulled it off their site for a while. I have seen a lot of TV's but nothing compares with this thing, it's a beast.
 

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+1, it's funny I saw the 8500 and the 8000 for the first time this week and I was stunned, especially the 8500; it kinda knocked me on my azz. The more I am reading about this set the more I learn, apparently Samsung got sued by Sharp over it and pulled it off their site for a while. I have seen a lot of TV's but nothing compares with this thing, it's a beast.

I have the A950 which is the previous generation LED. The picture still blows me away with zero problems. I have seen the 8500 and it's fabulous. LED LCD is the way to go.
 

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my 5o" samsung dlp blew a digital board 1 month and a day before the end of the warranty. samsung decided it was 'unfixable"

. so they(the insurance co.) provided me a 55 toshiba(55sv670u) led as a replacement. i love it! there is a place for a photo memory card on the side input ,but, i don't see any way to access it. any suggestions out there?
 

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Lets not drool over the Samsung 8500 they have major problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OEdx...eature=related


bad side lighting.


I have had my problems with Samsung, but overall I would buy Samsung again.


Now that I learned about "S" Panels and the Panel Lottery.

Thanks, did you make that video, is that your set?
 

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I've had my UN55B6000 for a few days and I absolutely love it. The picture quality is just out of this world...best I've ever seen myself. There are probably better looking TVs out there but I haven't seen it.


I do have to mention that it does have a slight issue with lighting coming out from the corners, very faint, but it is there. It doesn't bother me but thought it should be mentioned.
 

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Originally Posted by Ice Cold /forum/post/18252118


Lets not drool over the Samsung 8500 they have major problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OEdx...eature=related


bad side lighting.


I have had my problems with Samsung, but overall I would buy Samsung again.


Now that I learned about "S" Panels and the Panel Lottery.

What's your brightness setting? Turn it down around 45 and it should disappear.
 

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Great, now you guys are making me all OCD about my new TV haha. I went and paid closer attention, and when the screen is completely black, there are some clouding issues at the top and at every corner. Oh well, it's still a fantastic picture.
 

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Well, even if I decided to bit the bullet and get the 6000, I can't. Sold out at every BB around and it's discontinued. Getting ready for the 3D sets now. There was already a 55C7000WF 3D LED on display today. Does anyone know if these new 3d sets are local dimming?
 

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depending on the type of gaming and frequency of gaming you plan to do you may want to reconsider any LED samsung TV


take a look at the thread in my sig for more information if gaming is important to you
 

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Frito,


All you have to do is enable "Game" mode and lag is not a problem on most units.


And on the Samsung 8500 for instance, the graphics in Game mode are very good, so visuals are not a problem either.
 

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Frito,


All you have to do is enable "Game" mode and lag is not a problem on most units.


And on the Samsung 8500 for instance, the graphics in Game mode are very good, so visuals are not a problem either.

depends on the TV and every result i've seen on any LED Samsung TV has too high of input lag for serious gaming.


casual gamers i'm sure will not have a problem with the lag but there are people out there like myself who do not want their display delaying the image displayed to the point it hampers their performance and in many games this is the case if your monitor or TV lags by even 30ms let alone the 50-70ms these TV's lag at in game mode.


simply put if you play FPS games online and take your performance in them seriously and your playing on a TV with that much lag your dead before you even got a chance to shoot at the other guy.


other games like street fighter etc. require timing so precise for combo moves that having a display delay the image by any more than 15-30ms makes it impossible to play them properly.


there are many other games that input lag cannot be adjusted for like sports games requiring precise timing like golf and baseball games to name a few.


the list really does go on.


if you choose to turn a blind eye to the problem because you don't want to know or don't care about a fault in a TV you may own its your prerogative, i'm simply pointing these things out to gamers looking into new TV's so they are aware of the problem before hand.


it's up to them to decide if they think its an issue or not not you or myself
 

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Just go audition at BB and take home the one that pleases you and at least if you start out with the Samsung the damn thing is so light that it shouldn't be all problematic using your return window even though it's a hassle. This is one of the advantages of buying through BB is the return window.


I say decide for yourself and NOT this forum because the feedback here is schitzoid and their is a weighing to the negative where those that are unhappy will repeatedly voice their dissatisfaction whereas Happy owners aren't as prone to do so - they just view their panels and don't necessarily seek forums if their just enjoying their system.


As many people that shout clouding, flashlighting, blooming I see just as many that see NONE whatsoever or some that don't care what the hell the panel looks VOID of display content or give a "F" what the credits look like.
Take those negatives reported and when you audition see if they replicate and if they annoy you.


Audition as best you can and then take a panel home to be your HT Beeatch and if it disappoints you have other options since your going BB but don't ever think your not paying for that OPTION through built-in markup. Good Luck!
 

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westa6969, thanks. Great advice. I agree with everything you have said. The thing that makes it even more tempting is that those inflated BB prices are slashed now to get rid of these models for next ones. For example, a 6000 for $1999 plus no interest for 3 years. You are right, I will get best one I can afford and just bring the da*n thing home and see for myself.



Although...there are the new 3d models hitting floors now.... Ahhh!!!! too many options!
 

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Frito,


I had a feeling you might come back with a (smart-ass) response like that, so let me make a few things crystal clear for you.


#1 - I'm a serious gamer. I'm a member of 3 different online leagues and I play every day. I know what lag is. I also know the difference between significant lag and minimal lag. If you are a 'good' player, than minimal lag is not a problem.


#2 - Your tests are not supervised or controlled by a professional. They are not conclusive and they really don't prove anything.


#3- You have not tested all the models. You are wrong for attempting to mislead people into believing you have.


#4 - Numbers and tests are nice to look at, but they are only useful to a point. Real-world gaming tells the true story.


#5 - As long as the lag is not significant, it's a non issue for skilled players. Splitting hairs between a few milliseconds is something for noobs and people with nothing better to do with their time. But of course, I suppose if you have no skill, those few extra milliseconds might matter to you.


Enough said.
 
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