[freychris42424]

I bought the "cheap" transcoder online which does an ok job, but detail isn't that great and it projectos really wide on my projector and I can't get it to go on the screen.


My computer also does not do a great job with scaling, you'd think the AIW 9700 would do a good job but it does not. So I may just return my transcoder and pay the restocking fee and maybe invest in a scaler/trascoder if one exists.


Also I play a few games on xbox that are 720p, crash kart and soul calibar 2, would one of these scalers do 720p? Max to spend is $300.


Wondering if these products exists.....


Chris

 

[Alpha303]

How about a Holo3d card for a PC by Immersive. I picked one up for $375 Cdn, so that's about $300 U.S. Does a really nice job as a scaler plus you can have all the ports you need.


Chris.

 

[fs123]

Its rumored the new momitsu accepts component input and outputs scaled through dvi, but it isnt clear whether its dvi-d or dvi-i (which means vga as well).

 

[freychris42424]

I wasn't sure if there was one scaler/transcoder that might have done it all. My AIW 9700 does not do a good job with s-video, makes image not as bright and not very sharp. But if the Holo3d does compoenent real well then I guess I might look into it.


Chris

 

[freychris42424]

Would the holo card be able to accept 720p? Would the s-video input look better then the s-video input on my AIW 9700? How does the quaility of component transcoder compare to the $300 non-PC transcoders?


Chris

 

[TheFerret]

I would think that most video processors perform transcoding to some degree. Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend any processors for your budget that can be expected to do a good job.


Heck, I'm looking for a Component-to-RGBHV transcoder with a $/input cost of under $200 and that's is turning out to be a difficult task, so I'd imagine expecting a processor feature, too, would be almost impossible unless my expectations were rock-bottom (i.e. I didn't give a damn).

 

[JonMarsh]

Quote:

Originally posted by freychris42424 Would the holo card be able to accept 720p? Would the s-video input look better then the s-video input on my AIW 9700? How does the quaility of component transcoder compare to the $300 non-PC transcoders? Chris

The S-Video would be significantly better; the holo has a great NTSC capture chip; very low noise and good bandwidth.


Scalers like this don't take high res signals; they normally work just with 480i or 480P inputs. In fact, the scaling to the output resolution is done in the video card hardware; the big advantage of the Holo is the Faroudja processing, high grade video ADC, and quality of processing.


Regrettably, you're not going to find quality transcoders and scalers combined at this price level.


Also, be careful when you're considering transcoders, because there are differences between HD and DVD colorimetry. The AA transcoders are really setup to work with DVD; the KD CTCA3 is designed for HD colorimetry, which is probalby what you're game systems output. I use the KD on an NEC-9PG+ direct in to it's RGBHV input, with pass through of a MyHD card RGBHV signal, and that works quite well for me.


BTW, I like gaming a fair amount, too, but I'm not sure that gaming on a CRT rig is a great idea, unless you turn the contrast down to avoid burn-in of the UI components in the game. But hey, it's your rig and your money; just a friendly heads up.


Regards,


Jon


Regards,


Jon

 

[freychris42424]

From what I heard as long as I don't play the same game for 8 eights in a row and play it day after day in addition to routating my video games I should be fine. Hopefully that turns out to be the case.


I don't think I'll spend $300 bucks on a video card that doesn't do 720p. Which from the threads I've seached for I've heard conflicting reports.


How much are we talking about for something that has s-video, composite, component that does 480i, 480p, 720p is going to run me?


Chris

 

[JonMarsh]

If you're looking for something with "Inputs" working at all the resolutions you cite, to the best of my knowledge, you're out of luck.

Scalers (including STB types like the DVDO HD and others) or PC card one's like the Immersive Holo work with 480i or 480P on the inputs; higher resolutions are passed through, but not processed.


I gather you're working with an Xbox, not doing gaming on the PC? The latter might get you where you want, and with your projector you can set it up to support standard resolutions like XGA (1024X768P). Some games will work on the PC at 720P, and you can support this directly with a good PC gaming card; typcially the midrange or higher cards (5700 ultra, 5900XT for example) would be good ones to look at unless you have the budget for a $400 card.


Understand, the Holo isn't inexpensive eithere, unless you find one used, but they work very well with external sources like LD and DVD players. But 720P input isn't available.


There are inexpensive gaming oriented transcoders for ~$80 which have been discussed on other threads on this forum; check that out, might be your best bet; somewhat similar in looks and form factor to the KD CTCA2. Those may work well enough for gaming. I liked the CTCA3 because it had both an RGBHV input and component input; and when sync isn't active on the component input (no signal present), then the RGBHV input is turned off. I use a MyHD card set to RGBHV output into that port, but one COULD use another transcoder (inexpensive version) hooked up to the gaming rig.


~Jon

 

[freychris42424]

I do have one of those transcoders and it makes xbox look terrible, it only accecpts 480i and for $70 bucks seems like a waste.


If I get a DVDO iScan will it be much better then my transcoder?


Also, S-video going into my computer doesn't look all that hot, my AIW does not do a good job deinterlacing wouldnt' this be a bonus of a DVDO iScan?


Keep in mind I'm a newb to all this, I have only a vauge idea of what I'm talking about.


Are there recievers that do component inputs and output RGBHV? I need a new reciever anyway, but I assume if they exists are major $$$?


Chris

 

[aspec2]

Last night I finally got the Holo to work with DVI-D out of the cable box to my M8500. It only took 8 months, some bios tweaks, and a fresh install from W2k to XPpro. I was just about down to asking for help. Still working on the component input. DVI looks much better than component but not as good as the Hipix OTA. I have not tried the other inputs on the card.


I am hoping they don't turn on the C5 flag untill after football.


Walt

 

[freychris42424]

how would a AVT-3800 work for me given what I am going to use it for. Can it only accept 480i for component? Or when I'm playing crash bandit for xbox it will be able to send my ampro 3600 a 720p signal?


Chris