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I am hoping to have mine up and running next week or so. Does anyone know of a good PCI-E adapter to 8 pin motherboard?? Also for the other poster who is getting the AIC i just mounted my PSU and this should give you a good idea dimensionally why the PSU is such a pain in the but.

Single PSU for 48-drives?!?! Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!.
 

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Nope Dual PSU's will be put in place each at about 750 watts with 120mm fans in them. and one or two 120 or 140mm fans will be in between them. There will also be six 140mm fans together to make up the upper and lower fan wall, as well as a 200 or 250mm fan put into the top cover.
 

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How did you cut out the bottom of the case? I am still debating if I want to do it.
 

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I use a grinder with a cut wheel on it, I would put painters tape over the back plane, but it never got hot and I positioned the guard so it didn't throw any sparks on it. was easier than I thought. 48 bays and I am going to put two blue rays on the top of it. I don't think ill ever need a bigger server space wise and I am going to put two quad core cpu's in it.
 

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Originally Posted by davidtt485  /t/1412640/are-you-looking-for-a-less-expensive-norco-4220-4224-alternative/1590#post_23454887


I am hoping to have mine up and running next week or so. Does anyone know of a good PCI-E adapter to 8 pin motherboard?? Also for the other poster who is getting the AIC i just mounted my PSU and this should give you a good idea dimensionally why the PSU is such a pain in the but.

That's a very interesting design! Yeah my next server that's coming is I believe the AIC one, but the server I have now is the SM case. Either way you'll have one beast of a system once its all together. I haven't decided on what to do PSU-wise with the AIC once it arrives but i'll look it over and see what options can be had.
 

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I use a grinder with a cut wheel on it, I would put painters tape over the back plane, but it never got hot and I positioned the guard so it didn't throw any sparks on it. was easier than I thought. 48 bays and I am going to put two blue rays on the top of it. I don't think ill ever need a bigger server space wise and I am going to put two quad core cpu's in it.

I have a grinder too, small one 4.5" I think, and it seemed too big to get inside of the case. Maybe I didn't try it enough. I was thinking about getting some of those new metal grinder wheels for my dremmel and see if they can do it. 6 small 1.5" for less than $30 so even I go through all of them its not that big of an investment.
 

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I measured the space I wanted to cut out and did it from the bottom outside super easy if you flip it over and draw the square you want to cut out mine is the 4.5" one too, worked amazing. the metal is kind of thick for a dremel I think.
 

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I measured the space I wanted to cut out and did it from the bottom outside super easy if you flip it over and draw the square you want to cut out mine is the 4.5" one too, worked amazing. the metal is kind of thick for a dremel I think.

Now why didn't I think about that (turning it over)?!? May have to do that. I am going to leave a small section for the PSU instead of trying to secure it with zip ties...although that may change once I start cutting.
 

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i left about 1.5 - 2 inches all the way around but the stands off welded into the side of the case screwed up my plans, once i have the back wall cut out from the top i am not using the zip ties will no longer be there. Also i used a heavy duty double sided sticky tape to keep the unit from sliding around. The only issue i am having right now is figuring out the Virtual Machine and NIC issue.
 

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BTW... anyone encountered any issues with the SM X7DBE-X running 6 SAT8 cards at the same time? The X7SBE has four slots and it would choke when you added the fourth SAT8 card.
 

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Originally Posted by Killroy  /t/1412640/are-you-looking-for-a-less-expensive-norco-4220-4224-alternative/1620#post_23457607


BTW... anyone encountered any issues with the SM X7DBE-X running 6 SAT8 cards at the same time? The X7SBE has four slots and it would choke when you added the fourth SAT8 card.

I use 4 pci-X sata card on x7dbe-x, run perfectly... with ZoL (ZFS on Linux) on centos 6.3.


Slot 2/3/6 are pci-x 133MHz

Solt 4/5 are pci-x 100MHz


slot 4/5/6 share pci-e 8x via PXH multiplexer.


pci-x 133MHz is 1060MB/s

pci-x 100M Hz is 800MB/s

pci-e 8x is 2000MB/s


you can use:


* slot 1 100MHz(800MB/s) and slot 2 133MHz(1060MB/s), where multiplexing with pci-e 8x (2000MB/s); 1060+800+ multiplexing overhead ~ 2000MB/s

* slot 3 133MH, connects to ESB2/south Bridge, support by south bridge.

* slot 6 133MHz and slot 4 or 5 100MHz (since 4,5, and 6 share the same PXH multiplexing, where do not have enough B/W for all 3 slots);

slot 6 1060MB/s + port 4 or 5 800MB/s +overhead ~ = 2000MB/s


the maximum are 5 slot where three 133MHz( good for SAT8) and two 100MHz("ok" for SAT8)..


 

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My AIC server arrived today! Weighed in at 76 pounds, this thing is a beast. Felt heavier than the SM server I have lol. Did the initial power on and everything powered up like it should. Don't have much time to work on it now as I have to get ready for work (grr) but will play more with it later. Looks like I got the dark blue drive trays which I like, and seems to have side rail mounts.



 

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That is the SM case. I just moved the drives from my previous AIC case.


The 140mm fans are these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233031


I just finished the AIC case but did something completely different but the SM is a lot easier to MOD. It can be done in a couple of hours and the only thing that needs to be replaced is the fans and the PSU. Easy, peezy.

Thanks Killroy, just ordered the fans. Will have to scroll back to your post to figureo ut how to mount them. I haven't even taken my server out of the box yet. Hope it's simple to remove the existing fans...
 

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Originally Posted by AVTechMan  /t/1412640/are-you-looking-for-a-less-expensive-norco-4220-4224-alternative/1620#post_23469735


My AIC server arrived today! Weighed in at 76 pounds, this thing is a beast. Felt heavier than the SM server I have lol. Did the initial power on and everything powered up like it should. Don't have much time to work on it now as I have to get ready for work (grr) but will play more with it later. Looks like I got the dark blue drive trays which I like, and seems to have side rail mounts.


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totally true, AIC is heavier than SM
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you will have much work to do on AIC than SM..., I stripped down on bolt
due on forcing


I have the same model of HD trays, dark blue color.


for the rail mounts for the rack, it is not easy to find. I was unsuccessfully to find those rails
.

the easy solution is to use sturdy 1U tray since AIC is pretty heavy or put on the top of PSU at the bottom of the rack.
 

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Originally Posted by cantalup  /t/1412640/are-you-looking-for-a-less-expensive-norco-4220-4224-alternative/1620#post_23475652


totally true, AIC is heavier than SM
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you will have much work to do on AIC than SM..., I stripped down on bolt
due on forcing


I have the same model of HD trays, dark blue color.


for the rail mounts for the rack, it is not easy to find. I was unsuccessfully to find those rails
.

the easy solution is to use sturdy 1U tray since AIC is pretty heavy or put on the top of PSU at the bottom of the rack.

Yeah, I had planned to get the 1U shelves for the servers, like Killroy has done for his. When I powered on the AIC, even though the fans (esp the 60mm ones) were loud, they weren't as bad as the ones in the SM case. Setting the fan control in BIOS to workstation mode to reduce the fan RPM's and with the door closed I couldn't hear the AIC that much anyway, so I may not worry about modding it too much. Besides, I plan to put both these servers in the utility room where it stays nice and cool (65 degree ambient temp) and can close the door to keep the noise at bay. I need to get a Kill-O-Watt meter so I can keep track of the power consumption.


Now its just the matter in what these servers will be in use for.
 

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Finally got all new cases built and on the rack. The AIC is sitting on the rack floor till I get the new 1U shelf. Space between the two top cases is for the keyboard shelf if I ever get one. The monitor will be moving to the front with a rack-mount.



 

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What a sick, sick sickness you have Killroy. I like it!!



I take it the shelf you have the SM on is holding it pretty well? I just ordered one for mine yesterday from Provantage and should arrive on Monday. I need to order additional ones for my AV broadcast gear as well. Looks like to me you have nuts and bolts in that shelf. How do you have the other servers supported above the SM?
 

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What a sick, sick sickness you have Killroy. I like it!!



I take it the shelf you have the SM on is holding it pretty well? I just ordered one for mine yesterday from Provantage and should arrive on Monday. I need to order additional ones for my AV broadcast gear as well. Looks like to me you have nuts and bolts in that shelf. How do you have the other servers supported above the SM?

The 1U is rated for 200lbs (or so) and it doesn't even squeak with the SM fully loaded on it. It was a bit of a pain getting the bolts on since I couldn't get them to go through the front. If you notice the nuts are facing forward. I couldn't tighten them the other way. Not a big deal. Easy to adapt.


The Norco cases (top 3) are all supported via rails. The Norco rails are super cheap but they hold the weight fine. Just wish the would fit on the SM & AIC cases.
 

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The 1U is rated for 200lbs (or so) and it doesn't even squeak with the SM fully loaded on it. It was a bit of a pain getting the bolts on since I couldn't get them to go through the front. If you notice the nuts are facing forward. I couldn't tighten them the other way. Not a big deal. Easy to adapt.


The Norco cases (top 3) are all supported via rails. The Norco rails are super cheap but they hold the weight fine. Just wish the would fit on the SM & AIC cases.

I ordered some cage nuts and screws for the rack I built myself last weekend so once I get the shelf I will see how it will all go together. Yeah in lack of rails for the AIC and SM cases, the shelf will do just fine, besides its not like they will be moved on a regular basis.Glad to hear that the 1U shelf handles the weight with no issues.
 

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I ordered some cage nuts and screws for the rack I built myself last weekend so once I get the shelf I will see how it will all go together. Yeah in lack of rails for the AIC and SM cases, the shelf will do just fine, besides its not like they will be moved on a regular basis.Glad to hear that the 1U shelf handles the weight with no issues.

I should have bought some too but the ones that came with the shelf will do for now. I did have to go to Home Depot to find some M5 nuts since the shelf did not come with the nuts....WTF is up with that? You get bolts but no nuts.
 
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