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ATI Component Dongle Question

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Lee11

Discussion Starter · May 12, 2006

Will the ATI DVI to Component dongle work with any Radeon video card? I have a PowerColor Radeon 9250 and my HDTV only has component inputs. Or does the dongle only with cards from ATI?

If it will not work, what is the best, meaning cheapest way to connect my PC to a component input? I'm using s-video now and I would like better resolution. Can I use PowerStrip to improve the resolution?

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walford

· #2 · May 12, 2006

Powerstrip won't improve the PQ over S-video.

Only certain ATI radeon cards with DVI connections also support DVI-Component dongles and these are described in the specifications of the individual cards. If the specifications for your card that came with the card or the ones on the ATI website do not say that the card supports a DVI -component dongle than your card does not. AFAIK your card does not have the additional pins enabled in its DVI conector to support the componendt interface using a dongle.

You will probably need to a DVI-component transcoder to do what you want with your current card and if this is the case it would be less expensive to buy a new card that supports a DVI-component dongle or has direct support for a component connection by other means.

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Lee11

Discussion Starter · #3 · May 15, 2006

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Originally Posted by walford
Powerstrip won't improve the PQ over S-video.

Only certain ATI radeon cards with DVI connections also support DVI-Component dongles and these are described in the specifications of the individual cards. If the specifications for your card that came with the card or the ones on the ATI website do not say that the card supports a DVI -component dongle than your card does not. AFAIK your card does not have the additional pins enabled in its DVI conector to support the componendt interface using a dongle.

You will probably need to a DVI-component transcoder to do what you want with your current card and if this is the case it would be less expensive to buy a new card that supports a DVI-component dongle or has direct support for a component connection by other means.

Thanks Walford. You have cleared it up for me. Now at least I know what us possible and won't get stuck buying something that won't work.

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Andrew Hornfeck

· #4 · May 16, 2006

I use ATICVPatch to get component video out of my ATi AIW 9600XT without the ($30) dongle. Of course, I use a VGA to RCA adapter cable to extract the signals. Depends on which is the cheaper route: dongle or adapter cable.

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walford

· #5 · May 16, 2006

Andrew,

Are you sure you are using YPbPr component and not RGB component interface on your display? I ask this since VGA does contain RGB signals but it does not contain YPrPB signals.

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Lee11

Discussion Starter · #6 · May 16, 2006

Thanks Andrew, very interesting. Is the ATICVPatch free? where can I download it? Also will any vga-component cable work? Which one do you use?

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C.D.

· #7 · May 17, 2006

if your card has a DVI-I connector than you should have no problems even if your forced to go from DVI-I ----> VGA-----> components. so unless your card only has a DVI-D your fine, and it would seem wierd for a card to not support any kind of analog monitor.

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Lee11

Discussion Starter · #8 · May 17, 2006

C.D. Not sure what you are saying? what id DVI-I? and what to do you mean by DVI-I ----> VGA-----> components? Converting from DVI to VGA to Component? How/why would I do

that?

My video card has DVI, S-Video and VGA outputs.

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Andrew Hornfeck

· #9 · May 17, 2006

DVI = Digital Video INTEGRATED (I think) as opposed to DVI-D which contails ONLY the digital signal pins, NO analog. The DVI-I is what ATi cards use as you get VGA (which IS analog) via a simple adapter.

try this: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=69989 ALL I did was a google

I use a 5-meter HD15 (VGA) to 5 BNC and then a set of BNC-to-RCA adapters to get it to my Sony VPL-VW10HT. Seems I bought it from markertek.com but I'd suppose any would work -- depends on how long you need, etc.

I was sharing MY configuration -- your Non-ATi 9250 may not support component. Oh, and you MAY find that you'll have to configure the DVI as your primary in order for it to support any HDTV output via the CCC. WHAT Catalyst version, CCC or not, and .net are you using?

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Kupakai

· #10 · May 17, 2006

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Originally Posted by Lee11
C.D. Not sure what you are saying? what id DVI-I? and what to do you mean by DVI-I ----> VGA-----> components? Converting from DVI to VGA to Component? How/why would I do

that?

My video card has DVI, S-Video and VGA outputs.

DVI actually has the capability to to carry analog signal as well as digital signal. So sometimes you hear reference to DVI-I (Integrated, all the pins are carried through so both analog and digital signals are passed through), DVI-A (Analog, so only the analog signals are passed through), and DVI-D (Digital, only the digital pins are connected). If you look at your video card, there are four pins surrounding the bar on the left side. Those are for analog signals. Your video card might have come with a DVI to VGA adaptor, which connects the analog pins on the DVI to the correct pins for VGA.

I think the way ATI dongle works is that the card detects the presence of the dongle and the driver can switch the output of the analog signal from the normal RGB to YPrPb through the analog pins. The ATICVPatch just fools the video card into thinking that the dongle exists so that you can use a simple VGA to component RCA cable. However this post:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...73#post6124073

seem to indicate that 9250 doesn't have component out capability, anyway, so I don't think it would work.

You may need to get a VGA to component transcoder to convert the signal externally, but it isn't cheap. You might want to read this:
http://www.digitalconnection.com/FAQ/HDTV_4.asp

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Lee11

Discussion Starter · #11 · May 17, 2006

Thanks, Kupakai.

So if I have a Powercolor Radeon 9250, is that saying it has the ATI Radeon 9250 chips set or something? and it is the same as other ATI Radeon 9250 cards? Is that fact that ATI is not the manufacture of the card mean anything? Or is the Radeon 9250 the real import spec for knowing what this card can do?

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walford

· #12 · May 17, 2006

Your card has the Radeon 9250 chip set. That does not mean, however, that it supports all the interefaces that other Cards using the same chipset may support since each card manufacturer using the chip set is allowed to support whatever interfaces he wants to. As far as I can determine your from your card manufacturers Website your card does not have any support for a component interface.

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Lee11

Discussion Starter · #13 · May 18, 2006

Walford, so you are saying that there is no way for me to connect my video card to a HDTV with component inputs?

If that is the case then I will get several minutes a day of my life back because I can stop trying to come up with a solution. Guess now I will just try to find a way to buy a new video card that supports component instead of rigged up setup.

Thanks everyone.

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walford

· #14 · May 18, 2006

AFAIK the only way is with a transcoder which costs more than a new more powerfull video card which also supports a component interface.

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