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Chris, I don't know of anybody else who has it. I am thinking about getting one (just for the DVD-Audio and 7.1). Do you have it attached to multimedia speakers or to a A/V receiver?
 

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Sorry, didn't wake myself very clear! (edit: have now changed the wording to avoid further confusion!!) I haven't bought it yet, in fact I'm considering cancelling my Revo order for it... If I do, it will be connected directly to my power amps. Does anyone know if the DACS are as good as those in the revo?


Have there been bass management porbs in the past? I guess that they must have fixed these to get THX certification?


It also claims to have some advanced speaker setup features - maybe delays do you think? It says EQ is included on each channel, which sounds promising...
 

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I think I would take the Revo 7.1 over the Audigy 2 just because of the fact that M-Audio also produces more high end recording gear used in DAW's for multitrack recording. I get the feeling they would use better components overall. I believe the Revo makes use of the same DAC's found in the Audiophile 2496 and Delta 44/66 cards.


Support for DVD-A wouldn't mean much to me. Its not like you could connect the Audigy2 to an external decoder anyways.
 

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DVD-Audio would be a selling point potentially to me, since I will be using the card's analog outputs with an expensive speaker system using active crossovers and ribbon tweeters, and no intermediate processor stage. I'm fairly confident this would allow DVD-A to show its advantage. However I am concerned at the lack of PrologicII or CSII functionality. Does anyone know how good the Audigy CMSS system is?? (this is their ProLogicII clone)

Maybe an Audigy 2 user can help here, since CMSS has been around on this line of cards for a while...


There is also no DTS support, thought presumably this can be done by the DVD player software? I'm not really sure of this, so if someone can clarify this situation I'd be most grateful. I also presume that the playback of dts wav files will be impossible in my configuration (i.e. no external processor), though is this even possible on the Revo anyway?


Any help would be most appreciated!!
 

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DTS would be done by the audio decoder - ie both windvd and powerdvd will do it and should handle 7.1 out to the amp.


I use SPDIF to my receiver but want to try 7.1 for EAX games :)
 

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Let me know where you find one for sale - I haven't seen them yet.
 

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It's available here in the Uk for £85.


The only thing holding me back is the fact that it upsamples all 44.1kHz audio to 48kHz before sending to the internal DACs reducing sound quality. Can anyone clarify this situation?


It seems strange that 44.1kHz is upsampled to 48kHz when the internal signal path will handle 192kHz, and the DSP handles 96kHz....


Maybe audigy users can give me some info on this, and the impact to the sound.


It would seem silly to buy this card for its DVD Audio functionality over the Revo, if the CD/MP3 playback was severely degraded...


Opinions?? Help!!
 

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Chris, to be honest, I have an audigy. I can not hear the difference between the PC (attached to my receiver through analog) or my Sony CD player. It may be my ears but neither I nor any of my friends can hear any difference. I do assume that my CD player keeps the audio at 44.1kHz.
 

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I have to agree with Paul. Unless you are an absolute audiphile you will not notice. With a young family gone are the days of quiet and sitting back and listening to an album. Now I am lucky if I can even hear Raffi in the backround :)
 

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I haven't heard the audigy (1 or 2) but do have a revo so maybe can offer a couple things to at least think about. The last SB card I had was a Live which soundwise was very similar to the onboard chip on the mobo. In short pretty ho hum. The revo was a very obvious improvement even over fairly basic PC speaker like the Klipsch ProMedia's. Audiophile approved hardly, but the difference was there and readily apparent. Would the difference between the revo and audigy 2 be so obvious I just don't know.


On the flip side if you're considering gaming the revo doesn't have onboard DSP from the reviews I've read. These functions are offloaded to the CPU. In todays world of 3 GHz processors it's possibly moot but frame rates did suffer with the revo to the tune of 10 to 24%.
 

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Human senses are highly adaptable. If you keep listening re-sampled stream, you will not be able to notice audible artifacts from re-sampling. I was surprised when I realized I didn't notice differences between original and re-sampled data. I finally realized differences two weeks later of switching.


That was the worst point to me. I didn't notice re-sampling artifacts. It was a nightmare. I was faked. I can say I'm not a specialist of music, so it is OK. But, I just don't like it.


In my opinion, there is no reason to keep listening badly re-sampled stream and adapting to it even if you don't notice differences.
 

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I have the ZS: find below a "homemade" review of it done in another topic just yesterday.


Well,

I bought it and I`m pretty much satisfied.


First of all, I`m not a musician, and I`m using it mainly for DVD and games.


It`s connected to a 6.1 Creative Soundworks 650D THX speaker set.


My impression is that this is an audio board specifically designed for "mild" HTPCers. Not the "real pros", so the people that uses the HTPC for video and then SPDIF audio to external decoders.


It`s dedicated to people that`s exactly like me: I play games and I watch DVDs (a lot) and I have all internally on my PC.


I`m saying this because the features implemented (on top of the "old" Audigy 2 features) are:


1) up to 7.1 support (who cares for gaming ?)

2) DTS and DTS-ES decoding (again, who cares for gaming ?)

3) the THX control panel (which let you "design" the layout of your room for audio, by defining speakers distances and angles, and so it let you more control over the audio output and "separation": again, who cares for gaming ?)


As I said, I`m satisfied about it: bass is good (better IMO than WinDVD), and sound seems more "separated" between the different channel (could be that it`s achieved through the THX Control Panel...).


As I said, mine it`s not a "real pro" setup, and I`m not of course a "real HTPC guru", but at the end I`m really satisfied about it: now I can use TT+ffdshow to watch DVDs without having to sacrifice DTS, and, more than this, since I have a 6.1 speaker set I can enjoy DTS-ES decoding (which none of the current sw DVD player support, as I discovered the hard way...).
 

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Audigy 2 ZS decodes DTS ES when u use SPDIF on your software DVD player, so the sound care actually catches this DTS stream and decodes DTS to the analog out.
 
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