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A. General Audyssey Issues
a)1. What happens when I run Audyssey?
a)2. Why is dialogue from the centre channel difficult to hear or understand?
a)3. I keep reading about Reference Level'. What is it?
a)4. Reference or Preference - which is best?
a)5. How does Audyssey handle dipole and bipole surround speakers?
a)6. Is it possible to save and recall an Audyssey MultEQ calibration?
a)7. What are the Audyssey 'Movie' ('Reference') and 'Music' ('Flat') curves?
a)8. What is THX Re-EQ? Should it be on or off when using MultEQ?
a)9. Why are my high frequencies 'bright' or 'harsh' since running Audyssey?
a)10. How can Audyssey measure anything with those silly blips? Shouldn't they use sweeps like everyone else?
a)11. Where can I find help with the Audyssey Pro Kit?
a)12. What is the relationship, if any, between the Equaliser setting in my Onkyo/Integra AVR and Audyssey?
a)13. Will Audyssey work if I am using external amplification?
a)14. Which current AVRs have which version of Audyssey room correction?
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a)7. What are the Audyssey 'Movie' ('Reference') and 'Music' ('Flat') curves?
Contrary to popular belief, a target curve that is flat from 20 Hz to 20 kHz is not always the one that will produce the correct sound. There are several reasons for this. One has to do with the translation required from a large movie theater to a smaller home listening room. The other reason has to do with the fact that loudspeakers are much more directional at high frequencies than they are at low frequencies. This means that the balance of direct and room sound is very different at the high and low ends of the frequency spectrum.
In a typical living room, the acoustical conditions require a flat curve up to a certain frequency, and then a roll-off. This roll-off allows the proper balancing of the direct and reverberant sound at high frequencies.
MultEQ creates filters that correct the frequency response of your speakers to a specific target curve. These target curves are called: Audyssey Reference and Audyssey Flat, or alternatively Audyssey Movie and Audyssey Music.
The Audyssey Reference/Movie target curve is designed to translate film mixing room conditions to the home listening room. This curve is flat to 4 kHz, has a slight roll-off from 4kHz - 10 kHz (-2dB @ 10 kHz), and another additional roll-off from 10 kHz - 20 kHz (-6dB @ 20 kHz). This curve should be used for listening to movies in most cases.
The Audyssey Flat/Music target curve has no roll-off. This curve should be used for movies if you are seated in the near field, if your room has a lot of high frequency absorption due to acoustic treatments, if your room is very small or highly treated or if you are using THX Re-EQ (which introduces its own roll-off).
Audyssey research has found that listeners in most home environments are seated in the reverberant field. The mixing of most films (in post-production studios) is completed with the recording engineer seated in the near field. As a result, it is usually beneficial to use a high frequency roll-off (Audyssey Reference/Movie curve) to tame brightness. However, if you have an acoustically treated room and/or are seated relatively close to the front speakers, you may be located in the near field. Therefore, it may prove beneficial to try listening without a roll-off (Audyssey Flat/Music curve) to see if there is an improvement in sound quality.
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What is THX Re-EQ? Should it be on or off when using MultEQ?
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Originally Posted by henrich3 /t/1518290/audyssey-or-audyssey-music-flat-for-movie/0_20#post_24392227
Since DEQ dynamically shifts the soundstage as the volume changes, lowering the surround gains to compensate would only get it right at one volume. At volumes lower than where you corrected the levels, the surrounds would still be too loud. At higher volumes the surrounds would be too soft. Disabling DEQ keeps the speaker levels properly balanced. It's unfortunate that Audyssey bundled a bad feature with a good one. I prefer just running my subs hot & leaving DEQ disabled.
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Originally Posted by JHAz /t/1518290/audyssey-or-audyssey-music-flat-for-movie/0_20#post_24370057
Audyssey has a little dip right around 2 KHz in the midrange, but not a midrange rolloff. For a similar concept, google "BBC dip."
Audyssey rolls off the highs right about midway between flat and the high end rolloff imposed on every movie mixing stage (AFAIK) by the "X curve" (which a person also could google).
as it happens, there seems to be some consensus developing (see the work at Harman or the results from participants in the Canadian testing like Paradigm) that what people like is a bit of high end roll off in-room, versus strictly flat response, from speakers. IOW, lots of companies are baking in a similar rolloff (it has a fair amount to do with off-axis response when you put the speaker in a home-sized room) because that's what works.
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Originally Posted by primetimeguy /t/1518290/audyssey-or-audyssey-music-flat-for-movie/0_50#post_24392289
But then your bass is never right either, or only at one volume level. ;-)
Pandora was the Denon app? The audio settings in the Sony are? While older Denons like mine allow the one position thing, I saw JDSmoothie mention the newer ones require at least 3 before the quit option comes up. I'd put this in the Denon thread for the avr http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...series-avr-owner-s-thread-faq-hdcp-2-2-a.htmlHi all,
I thought i report what i experienced with my New Denon 910W and Audyssey setup, to see if anyone else has same issue.
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Audyssey is fully configured and working
While listening to music last night i know Audessey was working and functional, i was listening to Pandora, then switched to Netflix Video via my Samsung Blueray 6500, during the playback i notice that no Audessey settings were possible, it was grayed out, without me making or going back into setup and restarting any calibration, Audessey settings were gone.
I recall a week ago a similar experience and i thought i had made a mistake so i just rerun the setup,twice in one week i lost Audessey calibrations.
I was able to go back somehow in the setup and restore it but then i have to make my adjustment again, i did not try to restart the AVR, when this happens, i am thinking of returning the AVR to get a different one as i dont want to keep rerunning the Audessey setting, also i wish Audessey let you check your setting after 1st mike position mainly to speed up Subwoofer corrections and display its results immediately.
Any way this is a serious issue and i should also post of link it to Denon thread, any one have seen this ?
I have played Pandora from Denon and\or Samsung Blueray time to time, the problem occurred when viewing or switching from Music to Video on Sumsung Blueray 6500 ( at least this last time, do not recall how it happed first time).Pandora was the Denon app? The audio settings in the Sony are? While older Denons like mine allow the one position thing, I saw JDSmoothie mention the newer ones require at least 3 before the quit option comes up. I'd put this in the Denon thread for the avr http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...series-avr-owner-s-thread-faq-hdcp-2-2-a.html
I've never seen a warning to run Audyssey setup myself nor seen it grayed out, that does sound funked up. Did you try a microprocessor reset on the Denon or even a soft reset yet?I have played Pandora from Denon and\or Samsung Blueray time to time, the problem occurred when viewing or switching from Music to Video on Sumsung Blueray 6500 ( at least this last time, do not recall how it happed first time).
Defiantly lost the ability to use Audessey ( Grayed out & Said i need to run Audessey setup if i want to use it), if it happens again, i will take a note and post it back, at this point ( during the failure) AVR reverted back to base equalizer from Denon.
Audessey setup was fully functional with all six position and all options correctly recognized & working for few days, prior to this mishap, the samsung blueray is setup with options to pass bitstream to the AVR and is working fine, its a new Blue ray player.