[Lloydian]

So, I was watching the football game at my dad's house last Sunday evening (he has my second best Replay, a 30 hour Showstopper).


At the end of the three hour game, which we were watching delayed, he had set up a non-guaranteed record for SportsCenter, just in case the game went over the time limit (he can't pad shows, you see, but that debate is in another area). Unfortunately, he had quite a number of other non-guaranteed shows that he had not yet watched. I'm sure you all know where this is headed.


Setting up the program as guaranteed is not reasonable with only a 30 hour hard drive. Since sports tax the video so much, high quality is a must. This means that a single football game with an hour of padding will require 40% of the storage space.


What I would like to see is that the unit applies a logic similar to what it already does for recurring channels. On a recurring channel, if a newer program comes along, the older one is deleted whether or not it has been watched. Similarly, when deciding whether or not to record a non-guaranteed show, if there is insufficient space for the new show, the oldest non-guaranteed show should be deleted. This sort of logic would also allow guaranteed space to be used until the show itself requires it.


Just my 1/50th of a dollar.


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[RandyL712]

I don't understand your complaint. You knew before recording the game that you were using up 40% of the hard drive. Did you not expect room to be made for that recording?

 

[Lloydian]

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Originally posted by RandyL712: I don't understand your complaint. You knew before recording the game that you were using up 40% of the hard drive. Did you not expect room to be made for that recording?

I would have been fine if it had made room. Instead, it decided to simply not record the new program. What I would prefer is to not need to take out a piece of paper and start adding up (3 hours at high quality there plus 1.5 hours at medium quality plus 30 minutes at medium...).


Yes, I know that doing a guaranteed record would have resolved this issue, but that requires either setting up a new guaranteed record for each game or having eight hours of guaranteed records (Sunday on ESPN, Monday on ABC) at high quality.


Currently, the logic makes the assumption that older programs are more important than newer programs (again, I'm not talking about episodes within a single Replay channel), which is more likely opposite of what people think. Who's with me on this?


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[RandyL712]

Well, you seem to know the answer. If you want to "guarantee" a recording, set it to "guaranteed"


Personally, I disagree. I don't want older non-guaranteed programs being deleted to make room for new non-guaranteed programs. The only acceptable way to do this is to create a third status, like "kinda guaranteed". It would overwrite non-guaranteed but be outclassed by true guaranteed.


PLEASE don't talk about a rating system from 1-10 where we assign a priority. Too damn confusing. We already have 2 levels of priority, a third would be sufficient.


[This message has been edited by RandyL712 (edited 11-02-2000).]

 

[karog]

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Originally posted by RandyL712: PLEASE don't talk about a rating system from 1-10 where we assign a priority. Too damn confusing. We already have 2 levels of priority, a third would be sufficient.

Oh give me a break. 3 might be sufficient for you but not for many others. Should limits be imposed based on your mental capacity?


If there were 10 priorites and you only want 3, then only use 3, say 1, 2, and 3. Or is that still too confusing for you?

 

[The Robman]

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Originally posted by karog: If there were 10 priorites and you only want 3, then only use 3, say 1, 2, and 3.

I'm gonna have to go with karog on this one, I want the priorities! I think 5 levels would do me, but if you supply 10 that's fine, I'll just use the first 5. I would suggest that the priority level that I used for recording be carried over and used to decide which shows get deleted first.


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[This message has been edited by The Robman (edited 11-02-2000).]

 

[RandyL712]

Karog,


I see your point, and I agree. I do, however, wish that you would knock it off with the personal attacks. Perhaps you need to count to 10, or take a deep breath before posting insults.

 

[PRMan]

And let me just say here that I don't want to hand-tweak everything in a list everytime I schedule a new recording. That is too much work. Numeric priorities are a good option if you just keep it to 5 or so.


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[The Robman]

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Originally posted by RandyL712: I do, however, wish that you would knock it off with the personal attacks. Perhaps you need to count to 10, or take a deep breath before posting insults.

With all due respect Randy, I think you should check the tone of your posts, do you think it's possible that it's your tone that inspires the kind of response you got from karog.


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Rob.
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[karog]

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Originally posted by The Robman: I would suggest that the priority level that I used for recording be carried over and used to decide which shows get deleted first.

If only. I have argued for this many times and would dearly love to see it. But sadly I don't think it is going to happen.


As a compromise to get from here to there, I could envision a system that maintains the current Guaranteed for those who like what it does now and augment the non-guaranteed with 0-9 priorities that auto-delete based on priority. I'd like it if Replay did this but if they don't, maybe someone else will.

 

[RandyL712]

I certainly admit that I didn't candy coat my response to Lloydian, but karog has to insult my intelligence? I'm easily swayed by compelling arguments, and in fact I agree with you per my last post. I didn't think about just using three levels, regardless of how many there are. What I absolutely object to are PERSONAL ATTACKS. Whatever, I'm not hurt by this, just totally off base and jejune.


In any event, I know I've been a bit grumpy. I'll try and smile while I type (it works when you're on the phone, I'm assuming it translates http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif )


[This message has been edited by RandyL712 (edited 11-02-2000).]

 

[The Robman]

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Originally posted by RandyL712: I certainly admit that I didn't candy coat my response to Lloydian, but karog has to insult my intelligence?

If you go back a re-read the posts, I think you'll find that karog's post is no more insulting your post that preceeded it. In fact, if you go back and re-read all the posts that you've made today, ask yourself how do you think they sound to someone else.


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Rob.
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[Lloydian]

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Originally posted by DrStrange: I am. Hence my preference for Tivo, which would have done exactly what you say you wanted, and even warned what it would have to delete when you scheduled the game.

Hmmm. The TV does have another video input (DVD, LD, DTV, DSS, PTV, room for one more component and two more S-video). Just picture me struggling with the thought of defecting.


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[DrStrange]

 *nudge*


You don't have to defect. One of each is good. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

 

[Minnesotan]

"You were ruder than me...?" Folks here must really love their ReplayTVs, or else they wouldn't defend to the death their own personal vision of how they should work! Can this shared interest be channeled into mutual appreciation (instead of petty bickering that sent ReplayMike packing)?


The bickering gets in the way if someone just wants to learn about the technology, pick up a few tech tips, learn how to solve a problem, or decide what to buy next.


Love my ReplayTV... eager for new models... hopeful folks will learn to say "Can't we all just... get along?"


Just - thoughts. Now standing before you - naked - ready for your attacks if you wish. (It won't harm me personally. I don't even know you, after all.)

 

[DrStrange]

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Originally posted by Lloydian: Currently, the logic makes the assumption that older programs are more important than newer programs (again, I'm not talking about episodes within a single Replay channel), which is more likely opposite of what people think. Who's with me on this?

I am. Hence my preference for Tivo, which would have done exactly what you say you wanted, and even warned what it would have to delete when you scheduled the game.


Not trying to start an us vs them thing, but he did ask. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

 

[The Robman]

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Originally posted by Minnesotan: Can this shared interest be channeled into mutual appreciation (instead of petty bickering that sent ReplayMike packing)?

Well said!


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Rob.
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[Lloydian]

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Originally posted by DrStrange: *nudge* You don't have to defect. One of each is good. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

Nudged. (Whew! More forums to read!)


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