[redsharkwon]

Looking for best bang for buck quality receiver that has both ATMOS, pre-outs and a fair amt. of power and ideally spending under $1k which is probably the issue. Definitely open to refurbished, i.e. Accessories4less or B stock. Likely will be powering a 7.2 system in a fairly large room. Speakers B&W either 683 or CM9's. The reason for the preouts is understand the B&W's perform better with more power, i.e. separate amp for L,R,C. Multiple zones would be good as well, at least one other, ideally 3 zones. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Greg

 

[jdsmoothie]

Depends on whether you want to expand beyond 7.2 or remain at only Atmos 5.2.2 maximum as there are several Atmos 7CH only models available in your budget. Call for pricing and additional information.

 

[afrogt]

Denon x4100

http://www.accessories4less.com/mak...mos-receiver-w/wi-fi/bluetooth/airplay/1.html

 

[redsharkwon]

Denon x4100

http://www.accessories4less.com/mak...mos-receiver-w/wi-fi/bluetooth/airplay/1.html

How does the Denon compare to Integra, Marantz and Aventage?

 

[jdsmoothie]

Depends on the model being compared. Onkyo/Integra dropped Audyssey for their own AccuEQ (no FL/FR or sub EQ) while Yamaha uses their own YPAO (sub EQ starts with A2040) and Marantz being the sister company to Denon.

 

[Dan Hitchman]

Looking for best bang for buck quality receiver that has both ATMOS, pre-outs and a fair amt. of power and ideally spending under $1k which is probably the issue. Definitely open to refurbished, i.e. Accessories4less or B stock. Likely will be powering a 7.2 system in a fairly large room. Speakers B&W either 683 or CM9's. The reason for the preouts is understand the B&W's perform better with more power, i.e. separate amp for L,R,C. Multiple zones would be good as well, at least one other, ideally 3 zones. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Greg

Seriously... wait for products with both Dolby Atmos and DTS:X (and newer HDMI chips) included. They'll still show up on A4L a few months later at a better price. Why only have half a loaf?

 

[redsharkwon]

Seriously... wait for products with both Dolby Atmos and DTS:X (and newer HDMI chips) included. They'll still show up on A4L a few months later at a better price. Why only have half a loaf?

Do you know when they will be out? I know Pioneer Elite's have started coming out. Trouble with all this stuff is there is always something. But yes, you make a very good point - stuff is just about to start coming out and I could use my existing Onkyo 608 which is not a bad receiver to tide me over. Thanks!

 

[Dan Hitchman]

Do you know when they will be out? I know Pioneer Elite's have started coming out. Trouble with all this stuff is there is always something. But yes, you make a very good point - stuff is just about to start coming out and I could use my existing Onkyo 608 which is not a bad receiver to tide me over. Thanks!

Usually late summer, early fall for the lower to mid level models. The upper tier models might come out closer to the holidays.

 

[Montucky]

Yup. With DTS:X right around the corner, I'm thinking about holding off myself unless I just find a stellar deal on some of the existing pre/pros. I almost feel like we're back in 199x when I was about to get a Dolby Digital receiver and then receivers started coming out with DTS. I was SO glad I held off just a few months as I thoroughly enjoyed both formats (but preferred DTS).

 

[redsharkwon]

Looking for best bang for buck quality receiver that has both ATMOS, pre-outs and a fair amt. of power and ideally spending under $1k which is probably the issue. Definitely open to refurbished, i.e. Accessories4less or B stock. Likely will be powering a 7.2 system in a fairly large room. Speakers B&W either 683 or CM9's. The reason for the preouts is understand the B&W's perform better with more power, i.e. separate amp for L,R,C. Multiple zones would be good as well, at least one other, ideally 3 zones. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Greg

ok - I want to revisit this. I was originally thinking of waiting to get an AVR with DTS:X but have been checking the new DTS:X receivers and they are either very expensive or do not support pre outs, Denon 7200 expensive, or Onkyo 747 no preouts. So not sure I want to wait. I have to drive 4 ohm Totem Tribe III speakers and have just purchased a barely used Parasound 1203A that has 140W into 8ohm and 200 into 4 ohm for 3 channels that I want to use for L,C,R. Big room with 7.1.

I was looking at the following:
• Onkyo 838 - $699 open box or refurb for $599 – 130watts, Zone 2 powered & a zone 3 w/o power could use a separate amp I have for that zone to power.
• Integra 40.6 -$600-$900 ebay 110Watts, powered zone 2 only if 5.2
• Yamaha Aventage no HDMI 2.2
- 2040 – Acc4less: $1,199
• Denon 4100 $799 Acc4less but no HDMI 2.2
• Marantz 7009 – 9.2, 125Watts $1,299 Acc4less no HDMI 2.2

Seems like the Onkyo is best bang for buck. Am I missing something? I would like to get something with DTS:X but seems quite pricey at this point and not sure I want to wait 6-9 months. Musically I understand Marantz to be the best followed perhaps by Yamaha. But both are a bit pricey. Not sure how important 2.2 is, but not sure I want to risk it. Are there newer receivers coming out that I should consider?

 

[Dan Hitchman]

ok - I want to revisit this. I was originally thinking of waiting to get an AVR with DTS:X but have been checking the new DTS:X receivers and they are either very expensive or do not support pre outs, Denon 7200 expensive, or Onkyo 747 no preouts. So not sure I want to wait. I have to drive 4 ohm Totem Tribe III speakers and have just purchased a barely used Parasound 1203A that has 140W into 8ohm and 200 into 4 ohm for 3 channels that I want to use for L,C,R. Big room with 7.1.

I was looking at the following:
• Onkyo 838 - $699 open box or refurb for $599 – 130watts, Zone 2 powered & a zone 3 w/o power could use a separate amp I have for that zone to power.
• Integra 40.6 -$600-$900 ebay 110Watts, powered zone 2 only if 5.2
• Yamaha Aventage no HDMI 2.2
- 2040 – Acc4less: $1,199
• Denon 4100 $799 Acc4less but no HDMI 2.2
• Marantz 7009 – 9.2, 125Watts $1,299 Acc4less no HDMI 2.2

Seems like the Onkyo is best bang for buck. Am I missing something? I would like to get something with DTS:X but seems quite pricey at this point and not sure I want to wait 6-9 months. Musically I understand Marantz to be the best followed perhaps by Yamaha. But both are a bit pricey. Not sure how important 2.2 is, but not sure I want to risk it. Are there newer receivers coming out that I should consider?

I'd wait. HDMI 2.0a and HDCP 2.2 encryption support are necessary for 4k media going forward. You'll end up with DTS:X as a nice bonus.