Bang & Olufsen HDTVs & Speakers. Are they superb in performance?
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I owned a B&O turntable back in the '70s:
Elegant to look at.
Simple to set up and operate.
Average performance.
B&O, IMHO, does not provide the best value.
But the looks are georgous.
I owned a B&O turntable back in the '70s:
Elegant to look at.
Simple to set up and operate.
Average performance.
B&O, IMHO, does not provide the best value.
But the looks are georgous.
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Their plasmas are great and among the best for sure...you pay a lot for brand and design though.
B&O has never claimed to be Audiophile quality, but personally I think their audio stuff sounds very good. You can buy better sounding stuff for the same money, but then you loose the look.
If you are buying B&O though be warned their stuff is proprietary and can be a pain for hooking up or adding other non B&O stuff to your system.
Don't look at the value as what your money buys for PQ and AQ, the value of B&O lays in more then just performance.
B&O has never claimed to be Audiophile quality, but personally I think their audio stuff sounds very good. You can buy better sounding stuff for the same money, but then you loose the look.
If you are buying B&O though be warned their stuff is proprietary and can be a pain for hooking up or adding other non B&O stuff to your system.
Don't look at the value as what your money buys for PQ and AQ, the value of B&O lays in more then just performance.
royroy bang and olufsen are a top of the range brand with great picture performance aswell as impressive audio i have had numerous demos of there products from headphones to speakers not forgetting their tvs. one thing i like about their tvs is that you don't have to do any calabaration to any of there screens due to the fact that their have automatic picture control adapting to the changing light conditions in your room aswell as vison clear picture enhancement their plasma screens even have a built in camera that every 100 hours automatically adjusts all picture parameters and keeps the picture maintained to look its best all the time their picture quality is in a different league to any thing that i have seen. for example the beolab 5 speakers are unlike anything that i heard each speaker produces 2500 watts each they are the most powerful speaker for domestic use i have had a demo of them and they are fantastic bass weight is immense midrange and highs are stuning its something that you need to experience for yourself. everyone will have a opinion yeah they are expensive and appeal to certain type of clientele but if i had the money to afford any of there products after hearing and seeing i would definately consider them hope this helps.
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If Rolex was really bad at keeping time, then B&O would be the Rolex of audio
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Kinda reminds me of the time I ate at a 'high-end' restaurant and they brought my food and asked if there was anything else they could get me and I replied "yes, the rest of my food''.
Kinda reminds me of the time I ate at a 'high-end' restaurant and they brought my food and asked if there was anything else they could get me and I replied "yes, the rest of my food''.
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They are rebadged Bose.
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Many, if not most, people here have vastly more expensive systems than B&O, so that's not the reason for the derision. They're just not that good. They appeal to a certain type customer in the same way Bose do, just at a higher price point. They're certainly not something that warrant much discussion around these parts, AV is taken far too seriously for that.
Many, if not most, people here have vastly more expensive systems than B&O, so that's not the reason for the derision. They're just not that good. They appeal to a certain type customer in the same way Bose do, just at a higher price point. They're certainly not something that warrant much discussion around these parts, AV is taken far too seriously for that.
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That is funny...I think they are Bose high end division.
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They are rebadged Bose.![]()
Many, if not most, people here have vastly more expensive systems than B&O, so that's not the reason for the derision. They're just not that good. They appeal to a certain type customer in the same way Bose do, just at a higher price point. They're certainly not something that warrant much discussion around these parts, AV is taken far too seriously for that.
That is funny...I think they are Bose high end division.
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i used to work for a dealer that sold B&O, Boston, B&W, Klipsch, and a few others, but the B&O was by far the worse, no matter whether you considered size, price, design. Only time we sold them was when a B&O fan came in and pointed to them.
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I disagree on both those points. B&O is vastly superior to anything bose ever made. Anyone who thinks they are comparable is someone who has not be properly introduced to B&O current products. Sure some people have vastly more expensive systems, but most of B&O stuff is far better then what most people have. My closest friend has a 65" plasma, beolab 5s in one system and The Avent and Beo lab 6000s, and 4000s in another. I have spent a lot of time listening and can attest that they produce impressive AQ and PQ.
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Originally Posted by coldmachine /forum/post/16842548
They are rebadged Bose.![]()
Many, if not most, people here have vastly more expensive systems than B&O, so that's not the reason for the derision. They're just not that good. They appeal to a certain type customer in the same way Bose do, just at a higher price point. They're certainly not something that warrant much discussion around these parts, AV is taken far too seriously for that.
I disagree on both those points. B&O is vastly superior to anything bose ever made. Anyone who thinks they are comparable is someone who has not be properly introduced to B&O current products. Sure some people have vastly more expensive systems, but most of B&O stuff is far better then what most people have. My closest friend has a 65" plasma, beolab 5s in one system and The Avent and Beo lab 6000s, and 4000s in another. I have spent a lot of time listening and can attest that they produce impressive AQ and PQ.
BandO gives you good performance and outstanding Aesthetic value. however if you are not into the scandanavian design... then you only get good performance.
However everything is relative. B&O may be outstanding P/A Q for you, but they are not near the pinnacle.
However everything is relative. B&O may be outstanding P/A Q for you, but they are not near the pinnacle.
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It all depends on what you compare them to i guess. B&O has always had high end video processing. The Avant is still breath taking. Beolab 5 (saucer speakers) are great, but so are the other current models. Are they as good as top of the line audiophile speakers? No but they look a hell of a lot better.
Personally i wouldnt buy a couch no matter how comfortable if it looked like @ss. Products in this hobby should look as good as their PQ/AQ but sadly there are very few choices. I can count the number of brands on one hand that off any scope of good look design.
B&O has done a lot over the years and has a very strong history. They are certainly more then most around AVS gives them credit for.
IMO.
It all depends on what you compare them to i guess. B&O has always had high end video processing. The Avant is still breath taking. Beolab 5 (saucer speakers) are great, but so are the other current models. Are they as good as top of the line audiophile speakers? No but they look a hell of a lot better.
Personally i wouldnt buy a couch no matter how comfortable if it looked like @ss. Products in this hobby should look as good as their PQ/AQ but sadly there are very few choices. I can count the number of brands on one hand that off any scope of good look design.
B&O has done a lot over the years and has a very strong history. They are certainly more then most around AVS gives them credit for.
IMO.
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Peter, Im assuming you were being facetious.
The Beolab 5 speakers are not even close to the top at their price point ($15k iirc), let alone any higher accolade. They're simply a lifestyle choice, not a performance choice, not in the same league as some of your own installs.
A colleague had them on home approval at the time I was equipping my games room. I took over a pair of Genelec 1037s, as I wanted to see if the B&Os were suitable for my app. It was a rather one sided affair. Fidelity, dynamics, imaging etc were all clearly superior on the 1037s. Similar results were obtained with a pair of PMC monitors and my friends existing B&Ws
My friend returned the units and, having seen what can be done, auditioned some other actives. He now uses ATC.
The only redeeming factor of the Beolab units was the way the microphone creeps out from under the sub for the "in room" bass correction. A cool novelty that undoubtedly adds significantly to the cost.
As actives, they simply cant hang with the "genuine" big dogs in that area. Looking at a passive hi-fi speaker and amp alternative, they are certainly bested at lower cost.
Peter, Im assuming you were being facetious.
The Beolab 5 speakers are not even close to the top at their price point ($15k iirc), let alone any higher accolade. They're simply a lifestyle choice, not a performance choice, not in the same league as some of your own installs.
A colleague had them on home approval at the time I was equipping my games room. I took over a pair of Genelec 1037s, as I wanted to see if the B&Os were suitable for my app. It was a rather one sided affair. Fidelity, dynamics, imaging etc were all clearly superior on the 1037s. Similar results were obtained with a pair of PMC monitors and my friends existing B&Ws
My friend returned the units and, having seen what can be done, auditioned some other actives. He now uses ATC.
The only redeeming factor of the Beolab units was the way the microphone creeps out from under the sub for the "in room" bass correction. A cool novelty that undoubtedly adds significantly to the cost.
As actives, they simply cant hang with the "genuine" big dogs in that area. Looking at a passive hi-fi speaker and amp alternative, they are certainly bested at lower cost.
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I think what everyone is trying to say is that B&O is not the best of the best (or however the original poster put it). It does remain a premiere company in the AV world, but, since everyone tends to have 4 opinions on the same question, it really comes down to personal preference.
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