[KennyG]

Hey guys, I'm trying to setup a Batco 1209, and I am be having a problem...it's more like a lack of knowledge , having never setup a Barco.

I've been to several manual sites, but no one is selling 1209 manuals.

I was told the way to register a new signal was simply to press the "5" button on the remote. (theirs is a 1209s though)

Well when I do that, I do get a picture...however it doesn't stay. When I shut the pj down and restart it, I have to press "5" again otherwise the pj is blank.

Can someone please tell me how to register a signal correctly....I'm assuming once the signal is correctly registered the pj will automatically switch to it


Thanks, Kenny

 

[gn2]

Barco memory is NOTHING like NEC's or even Marquee's. They automatically save by frequency and you only have 32 frequency related blocks. You can have two different setups PER frequency by using 5 and 95 as input selections. One input can be a normal one and the other an anamorphically squeezed one. This is as far as my understanding of the system goes, I'm pretty sure you can copy the memory contents to do a quick setup of a new frequency too, but not totally sure on that. I was advised to do a search of " Barco memory " when I asked similar questions. The memory setup is identical no matter what projector you have too, AFAIK, so any manual will tell you the same things about using the memory.

 

[stopdog]

Kenny,


I can't help you with your problem but I also have a 1209 that I am setting up right now and am in search of the manuals. If I can find any of them I will let you know. Please do the same for me. Good luck with your projector and if I do come up with any info to help I will forward to you. It sounds like a minor problem though and I'm sure someone here can help you.


Rod

 

[DaveN]

Someone posted this cheap site for manuals last week: http://www.crtinfo.us.vu/automanualBARCO.html


The Barco 1208 manual will have the same setup/installation as the 1209.


Good luck,

Dave

 

[DaveN]

Just found this free site:
http://www.snaggs.com/projector/disp...agetitle=Barco

 

[kal]

Kenny:


Paul's right - there's no "save changes" or even "register signal" like you have in NEC's.


When the PJ senses a new horz/vert refresh rate that hasn't been used before, you'll see "NEW SIGNAL" in the bottom right corner for a few sections. The signal is registered at that point - you don't have to do it yourself. Any changes you make at that point as saved as well. You can't go through a bunch of changes and then back out of them. Everything is saved at every click of a button.


The buttons on the remote let you select the INPUT you want to use. The '5' button is the RGBHV input(If I remember correctly 1 and 2 are composite and S-video I think). If that's the ONLY input you use then you should only have to press '5' once and never again as the PJ should always return to the last input you used every time you power it on. I have noticed however that my Barco needs to have input 5 reselected after a power outage or when it's been unplugged.


But putting a "9" in front of any input number (ex: '95') you get a second set of settings that you can use for that same horiz/vert refresh rate. Like Paul said, it's really only useful for people with scalers that don't do anamorth. squeeze so you have to do it in the PJ. So it's useless for anyone with a modern scaler or an HTPC. I've never used it myself...



So when you get a new Barco, the usual sequence would be as follows:


- Go into the menu and erase all memories completely.

- Feed the PJ the HIGHEST signal you expect to use (usually via RGBHV which is input 5). (Lower resolutions use the settings from higher ones to extrapolate geometry settings so it's always good to set up the highest resolution first).

- Hit '5' on the remote.

- The PJ senses the new signal and creates a slot in memory for it (out of the 32 available).

- Do the complete mech/elec setup. All changes are saved as you go along. Write down these numbers in case you plan on being adventurous one day.

- That's it. Nothing else needed. As you turn off the PJ (go to standby) and turn it back on it should return to the same input (5 in this case) no matter what you're feeding the PJ (it doesn't autosense and switch by itself).


Having to hit '5' every time leads me to believe that you're powering the PJ down COMPLETELY. Most people just go to standy where everything's off except for the CPU module that is feed 9V DC from the LVPS, so that it can come back on by pressing on/off via remote. (Leave the push on/off button on the PJ in the 'on' position). I think there's a dip switch in the row of little switches on the big black cpu module that lets you go into standby when you hit power off on the remote. I only *completely* turn of the power when I go on vacation.


Funny- I had the opposite problem as you when recently working on an XG75 that I had for a short period: I would always forget to save my changes and couldn't figure out at first why the PJ wasn't auto-registering new signals!!


Kal

 

[Cousin.It]

There's one other Barco memory concept that I think I've noticed and that is the memory block isn't written (assuming it doesn't exist) when you input a new source and hit '5'. At least not until you make an adjustment in that mode. What I do if I want to make sure the block is written is I bump the brightness up or down a couple of notches to ensure it gets done.


This is something I've seen many times where I was in input Mode 5, there was no saved memory block for Mode 95 (because I deleted it), and I switch to input Mode 95... but the service menu block screen still didn't show a block was allocated.


I believe the Barco is supposed to come up in the last memory block it was in if you just power up with the 'Stby' button, but from time to time I also see that I have to push the correct input number to get it to go.


Mark

 

[stopdog]

Kal,


You just answered my question as to why I can't get a picture with RGBHV

input on my BG1209. I have been using # 4 which must be RGBS, thats the only output setting on my scaler I get a picture with on #4. Thanks.

I'll try using #5 tonight.


Rod

 

[spearce]

Yes, both Mark and Kal are right there. I've seen that after a power outtage or unplugging the unit that I need to push "5" next time to get it to pick an input, even though that was the input/memory block it was using last time (I run fixed frequency from HTPC, so that never changes).


Mark is also right that the Barco won't save the memory block unless you change it. I usually go into the service menu and copy over a known "good" block to the current block, then tweak the convergence as necessary. This prevents me from having to remember my brightness/contrast setting to restore it. (Of course, a good CRTer would recalibrate that too, but who has time when they have no power to recalibrate by?)

 

[gn2]

Is there a battery somewhere that needs to be replaced so the Barco's will remember what input was last used after a power outage ?

 

[KennyG]

Thanks alot guys...Kal that was very informative.

Actually, the only way I have been powering down the pj is with the remote "stdby" button, yet each time I fire it up I must press the "5" button, because on startup I get a message in the lower right corner that says something like "no input source, check signal" (or something close to that) However as soon as I press 5 the HTPC's picture is displayed.