I have a denon e400 and cerwin vega ve 15f as my fronts.for some reason I can't get the bass I want without turning my stereo up at high levels.i think audessy has something to do with it compressing the sound maybe?any ideAs?i have the treble at -6 and the bass at +6 right now still no thump that I know these speakers can produce!!thanks I'm advance!!
Bass problem with cerwin vega ve15f and denon e400
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Just a limitation of your speakers most likely. Turn Audyssey off to compare. If you want better bass get a subwoofer.
Just a limitation of your speakers most likely. Turn Audyssey off to compare. If you want better bass get a subwoofer.
The speakers can definitely out out a lot more then what it's doing now for sure if anything it's the receiver not putting out enough wattage possibly..the rms per channel is 90 and I have 400 watt subs and the rms is around 200 I'm sure..they have a freq range of 26hz to 20khz but I'll turn off audessy and see what happens thanks for the input.
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You know the speakers perform differently with a different receiver/amp? You have active subs? Wattage rating doesn't mean much on its own and CV doesn't define it either (is it peak capacity or continuous?). When a speaker manufacturer merely states a frequency range of 26Hz -20kHz like CV did with your speakers, and not specifying +/- 3dB then it doesn't mean a lot as the 26Hz point could easily be 10dB down, and the normal measurement spec of +/- 3dB could be quite a bit different.
CV indicates a sensitivity of 95db at 1 watt at 1 meter distance, so at the same distance you'd get 98 dB with 2 watts, 101 dB with 4 watts, 104 dB with 8 watts, 107 dB with 16 watts. The spec for reference volume peaks in a movie is 105 dB for comparison. At what spl levels are you listening ?
CV indicates a sensitivity of 95db at 1 watt at 1 meter distance, so at the same distance you'd get 98 dB with 2 watts, 101 dB with 4 watts, 104 dB with 8 watts, 107 dB with 16 watts. The spec for reference volume peaks in a movie is 105 dB for comparison. At what spl levels are you listening ?
For movie watching I've kept the db at 0db since that's what the denon manual said movie recording was and for music I have it at 15db which the manual also said but I don't know much about db settings and my cv are 400 peak which I would guess around 200 rms
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You play music at +15 ?! or is that down 15? If you calibrated your avr to THX standard you're getting an average 85dB at your listening position and 105dB peaks when your avr is at 0 (if the movie was recorded to the same guideline). You do or don't have a sub? What are your other speakers? Or is this only a 2.0 setup?
Sorry for the confusion and thanks for ur time btw..I only have 3 speakers so far..center and left front and right front..I don't have a powered sub just the two 3 way towers as my fronts..and I changed my music to 0db reference also just like my movie settings because I can't hear the difference..my center is a cv also..all my speakers are from the ve series from cv.i have the 3 way 15 in tower subs..I did a manual setup which I like better because audessy sets all the speakers at about -5db..which is very low so I changed all of them to 7db and I get more bass now..I'm guessing to get the vibrating bass I'll need a better receiver or amp I'm guessing?
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This speaker, yes? http://www.cerwinvega.com/home-audio/floorstanding-speakers/ve-15f.html Which are you using for a center? I only see the 5C in that series.
I remember when I had CV 3 ways about 35 years ago, think I had 12" woofers (they're not subs in your speakers, they are woofers) in those....thought the bigger driver would give me the bass I craved....they did okay but nothing special (and I'd run bass dial up a few notches on top of a loudness contour on the receiver) but I didn't know about subwoofers back then. I eventually killed those speakers
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. I think you'll get more bang for your buck by offloading the bass duties to a good active sub (which will also decrease the power demand on your receiver), there are few speakers can keep up with a good sub.
You do seem to like it on the loud side! By saying you couldn't hear a difference you mean it sounded as loud at plus 15 as it does at 0? Could be you have reached your speakers' limits....
Not sure what you mean about changing reference level.....you mean reference level offset or something along those lines? Not familiar with the Denon. You do listen at lower volumes I hope for the sake of your hearing
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I remember when I had CV 3 ways about 35 years ago, think I had 12" woofers (they're not subs in your speakers, they are woofers) in those....thought the bigger driver would give me the bass I craved....they did okay but nothing special (and I'd run bass dial up a few notches on top of a loudness contour on the receiver) but I didn't know about subwoofers back then. I eventually killed those speakers
You do seem to like it on the loud side! By saying you couldn't hear a difference you mean it sounded as loud at plus 15 as it does at 0? Could be you have reached your speakers' limits....
Not sure what you mean about changing reference level.....you mean reference level offset or something along those lines? Not familiar with the Denon. You do listen at lower volumes I hope for the sake of your hearing
Yes the 5c center and I don't want it super loud but I do like a little more bass during explosions and fight scenes or when I play music..and when I say reference I am referring to the offset you speak of.ill like into an active sub..I've had one before but it wasn't that powerful and it wasn't as accurate in producing the bass on one side or the other like two towers will do making a more realistic sound affect, but adding a sub will help too I bet.thanks for your input it was much appreciated!!!
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