[bcortez]

On a lark, I was leafing through the Behr swatches at my local Home Depot, and found the "Silver Screen" paint. Light grey, seemed similar to the "Misty Evening". So, I rolled two coats on a piece of white GatorFoam, and voila, a cheap two coat solution.


In my opinion, this gives definite contrast enhancement and deeper blacks than plain blackout cloth or the white GatorFoam surface. If you are looking for a quick down-and-dirty screen for your LCD projector, this took approx 3 hours total, most of that time was waiting for the coats to dry.


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The Surface Material:

GatorFoam Board (a foam core artist material used for poster mounting)

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The Paint:

Behr "Silver Screen" (770E-2) mix using Ultra Pure White (UPW) flat latex


Generic Formula of Behr SS:

1 gallon flat white latex base

20/48ths of Lamp Black

20/48ths of Raw Umber (a dark, murky yellow/orange-based pigment)

2/48ths of Red


NOTE: Wait for it to cure enough (about 2 weeks) before judging it. If you do it while it's still wet, you may see hot-spotting. It's like brewing a good lager beer, let it mellow a while, then decide.

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The Materials:

Foam Roller

Extension Pole

Paint mixing attachment for a hand power drill

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Projector Results using Pure Behr SS paint, on varying surfaces

(gleaned from comments on this thread)

(1) Great, Love it

(2) Satisfied, OK

(3) Not fully satisfied, but sticking with it while I look for something better

(4) I'm trying something else now



Benq 6200 (1)(1)(2)

BenQ PE7700 (1)

BenQ 8700 (4)

Dell 2200mp (1)

Epson Home20 (1)

Epson PowerLite Home 10+ (4)

Epson S1+ (2)

Hitachi CP-X300 (1)

Infocus X1 (1)(1)(1)(2)(3)(4)

Infocus 4805 (1)(1)(1)(1)(1)(2)(3)

Mitsubishi HC2 (?)

NEC HT-1000 (2)

NEC MT1065 (3)

Optoma EP727 1080i DLP Projector (1)

Optoma H27 (1)

Optima H30 (1)

Optoma HD70 (1)

Panasonic PT-AE700U (1)(1)(1)(1)

Panasonic PT-L200u (4)

Panasonic PT-L300 (3)

Panasonic PT-L500U (1)(2)

Panasonic PT-L900 (1)(1)(1)

Sharp DT-400 (2)

Sharp PG A10x (3)

Sanyo Z1 (1)

Sanyo Z2 (1)(1)(1)(3)

Sanyo Z3 (1)(1)

Sanyo Z4 (1)

Sharp XR-1S (1)

Sharp XR-10X (1)

Sony HS-51 (1)(4)

Viewsonic PJ 551 (3)


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My Theater:

Screen: 80"x45" Behr Silverscreen painted over GatorFoam (Ser # 0001)

Primary Viewing Distance: 11'

Projector: Panasonic PT-L500U LCD (via 7.5m DVI cable)


Home Theater PC (HTPC):

- AMD Athlon 2600 (overclocked)

- Asus A7N8x Deluxe Motherboard

- 1GB Corsair PC3200 RAM

- ATI AIW 9000pro (DVI)

- myHTPC Software (v24)

- TheaterTek Movie Player Software

- Two 120GB SATA Drives (internal - setup in a Raid 0 Array)

- Six 160GB SATA Drives (external - USB)


Receiver: Panasonic SA-XR25 5.1 (via SPDIF)

Speakers: Cambridge Soundworks MovieWorks 108 Speaker System


HDTV: Projected via component video cables from a Verizon FiOS Digital HDTV settop box

 

[fallenturtle]

would this paint work on a blank wall?

 

[zapper]

Drywall???



Ralph

 

[MississippiMan]



Quote:
Originally posted by zapper
Drywall???



Ralph

Cumon guys......, it's a Latex paint, fer gudness sayk!


If it can go onto a peice of Parkland Plastic, it can go onto almost any surface. Just be sure the surface is flat, and keep the texture down to a minimum.


Bcotrez,


great little job of searching all those crazy color swatches.

I'll be looking at your discovery ASAP, maybe even try it at the shoot out


MM

 

[MaximAvs]

bcortez,


what is the chip number? Is it Behr Premium?!

 

[gambit]

770E-2

 

[zapper]

BCortez


Joking, aside what is your opinion on what the picture looks like on the painted screen? Heck I should try it first and see what the picture looks like. Can't beat the price.


Thanks for the info.


By the way have you seen any projectors on regular screens and what are your thoughts when compared to The BEHR?? I am also buying the Panny 500.


Thanks


RPerez

 

[bcortez]

I'll be away on business the next 3 days. However, I'll try to take some screen snaps this weekend and post sometime Monday. I'll take one with the plain white gator foam on one side and the painted side on the other. That should give some perspective of the difference and the removing of the hotspotting too.


RE: zapper - I previewed the Panny 500 at my dealer on a HCCV screen, and frankly, i really didn't that much of a major difference, but that's one mans un-scientific opinion...so take it as that.


RE: MissMan - Thanks. I've been on the LF thread for months now, but needed a quick, easy, down-and-dirty screen ASAP for guests arriving in May. Looking at the swatches, I saw this one that seemed to look close enough to Misty Evening to at least try on some GatorFoam. It HAD to be better than the crazy hotspotting and over-the-top brightness of the untreated white surface. It was definitely worth the cost of the paint and an afternoon of time.


All,

I rolled (and let it dry) laying flat on the floor since I have no means to do it vertically. I know it's not optimal, but heck, it worked out fine anyway.

It's an easy paint to roll, without any thinning required. Just under one quart did two coats on a 4'x8' sheet on only one side. Using it on the GatorFoam board, it rolled out nice and even (and I'm no pro painter by any stretch - I'm a software engineer by trade). But, as I went down to use it last night, I found that as it dried, it contracted a bit and bowed the foam board about 6 inches on each side (easy way to make a curved screen though). I now have to mount some framing on the back anyway (for the semi-permanent mount), so this should take care of the bowing problem too. I still have to mask the sides with black cloth, but for now, it really is a good temp screen until I can convince the wife we need a LF screen this summer

NOTE: I'll bet if I painted the back, it would counter the bowing of the front.

 

[KLAATUWI]

I also found SS to be interesting choice until I read on another thread about the use of Gliddens Folkstone which is a grey with a very slight red tint to it. I painted it onto my parkland and with only 1 coat, just to see the initial change and I havent touched it since. It's been that way for about 3 or 4 months now.

I currently have the ptl-300.

 

[zapper]

Hi


Pardon my stupidity but what is a parkland?


Ralph

 

[MaximAvs]

I also like the look of that Glidden Folkstone. I might get a quart of each the Folkstone and the SilverScreen and see which I like better.

 

[NATHANG27]

Tested the Behr "Silverscreen" last night. Painted a small area of leftover screen and held up to an unpainted part of the larger screen. Better contrast , no hotspotting and richer colors. Plan on painting the rest of the screen this weekend. Total cost of screen for me was $30


Can't beat that!!

 

[zapper]

NathanG27


Your total cost for the screen was $30, WOW that's nice. How did you constructed the screen, such as material, fabric and size of the screen?


Zapper

 

[garyfritz]

Pardon the newbie question, but are these "silver" paint screens intended only for the bright digital projectors? I'm planning on a CRT and I keep hearing a plain ole flat-white screen is best for those.


Gary

 

[NATHANG27]



Quote:
Originally posted by zapper
NathanG27


Your total cost for the screen was $30, WOW that's nice. How did you constructed the screen, such as material, fabric and size of the screen?


Zapper

White hardboard (not sure if thats what is called) comes in 4' X 8' sheets at home depot 8.00

Silverscreen paint at home depot 9.00

velcro to stick to wall from home depot 13.00


finished painting last night and have no complaints, have to apply one more coat with roller.


Like a said $30 fro a screen that looks great. Can't beat that!

 

[mandarax]

Mississippi Man here,


The short, straight scoop.


Whilst toiling away in Canuck land, preparing for the official Light Fusion debut at the '04 Canuck PJ & Scr4een Shootout", I have been thinkin' uf ya'll.

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Today I whipped up a 4' x 8' "Silverscreen" piece of 1/4" Hardboard. It will get "sizing up" honors right along with the Vutec Silverstar, the Stewart GreyHawk, the DaLite HC, the Stewart Silverhawk, the Carada HC, and of course, Light Fusion.


All of the above attempt to enhance contrast, with some actually purporting to do so along with increasing gain. Tomorrow will see claims separated from truths. The Silverscreen paint looks good on the board, so I expect it will get better than a passing grade. Pretty nifty if it does 'cuz $9-$11.00 of paint on a wall that does a great job always makes me tingle. That's where my original roots lie anywho.


The lighter shade of grey, and yet the lack of luster bodes well for the SilverScreen. There should not be the degree of attenuation of luminosity that other darker HC hues result in. And the screen I sprayed is as featureless and as smooth as it can possible be. (....considering I painted it outside, propped against a wall, with Canadian leaves and twigs blowing about!)


Anyway Troops, I hope my efforts does the Paint proud, and once again, credit goes to Bcortez for bringing it to my attention just in time to throw a wet blanket on some Heavy Hitters in the Screen Mfg genre.




But if it aces out Light Fusion, I'm never talkin' ta ya'll agin.

Stay tuned. Might post tomorrow night late, but more probably late Sunday after my return home.



PS....See how I commandered Mandarax's PC? Pretty nervy, eh?

 

[CMRA]



Quote:
Originally posted by mandarax
Mississippi Man here,


The short, straight scoop.


Whilst toiling away in Canuck land



Stay tuned. Might post tomorrow night late, but more probably late Sunday after my return home.



PS....See how I commandered Mandarax's PC? Pretty nervy, eh?

Nervy? Naw. Drinking all of Mandarax's beer...now that's nervy!


Hey Bruce, you still think MM and CMRA are one and the same? How do explain this?

 

[bruce can]

Hey cmra i was teasing !!!! after you were making some silly off handed comments about me , but now who knows maybe you, mississippi, and mandarax are one and the same .

Bruce


ps good luck mississippi

 

[Shedrock]



Quote:
Originally posted by bruce can
Hey cmra i was teasing !!!! after you were making some silly off handed comments about me , but know who knows maybe you, mississippi, and mandarax are one and the same .

Bruce


ps good luck mississippi

I have seen CMRA in person and I can verify that he has two arms, two legs, and walks upright.


Shedrock

 

[dokworm]

Can't wait for the shootout.

Wish all this 'Behr' paint was available in Oz.


To answer the 'CRT' question, a silver screen usually = hotspotting, but if you curve your scrren (in a toroidal fashion) you can get rifd of the hotspot and colour shift