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OK...so the new HD66 seems to be getting a lot of attention for the price. With all the experience on here I have to ask. For all around use what is the best deal out there for $1000 or less?
 

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This question is asked daily and has been answered in subatomic detail in many threads - search is your friend.
 

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Originally Posted by reconlabtech /forum/post/18277870


This question is asked daily and has been answered in subatomic detail in many threads - search is your friend.

I totally agree with recon==do the search. There is so much here to discover.


HD66=720p and 3D ready, and less than $1,000.


HD20, W1000, Vivitek FD1080 = 1080p and all around $1,000 and each has their pros and cons and followers. A lot of people jump up a few hundred and go for the HC3800, which has a much better image--but it too has it's detractions such as shutdown problems, color shift across the screen, big offset, etc.


There is no one perfect projector in that price range. (I have a HC3800 and love it--I also had a HD20 for a few days and hated it.)
 

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I spent about 2 months reading before I made up my mind what to buy and how much to spend.


Dig in and see what looks like it will work for you. The education will be worth it. There are about a dozen possible choices and nobody can make that for you.


Good luck!
 

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I totally agree with recon==do the search. There is so much here to discover.


HD66=720p and 3D ready, and less than $1,000.


HD20, W1000, Vivitek FD1080 = 1080p and all around $1,000 and each has their pros and cons and followers. A lot of people jump up a few hundred and go for the HC3800, which has a much better image--but it too has it's detractions such as shutdown problems, color shift across the screen, big offset, etc.


There is no one perfect projector in that price range. (I have a HC3800 and love it--I also had a HD20 for a few days and hated it.)

Hey threed123, I just replied to a post about the HC3800 in a differeent thread. As I am considering the HD20 and HC3800, can you tell me what you didn't like about the HD20?
 

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Hey threed123, I just replied to a post about the HC3800 in a differeent thread. As I am considering the HD20 and HC3800, can you tell me what you didn't like about the HD20?

Sure, I will tell you the good and the bad compared to the HC3800.


HD20 Pros
  • You can find it for less than $1,000 and it's a good projector in that price range.
  • Excellent offset for handling tight ceiling situations.
  • Good overall blacks--better than the HC3800 imho.
  • Bright, but not as bright as the HC3800.
  • Sync issues not as big a problem as with the HC3800.
  • Easier to tweak than the HC3800, but HC3800 better out-of-the box.


HD20 Cons
  • Not as sharp as the HC3800.
  • Does good with 1080p input, not so good with 720p (soft) or 480p (ugh!).
  • Does not have that "3D" look that I was use to with the Optoma HD70, and the now the HC3800.
 

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HC3800 from what I've seen...stretch your budget less than $300 and its yours
 

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Sure, I will tell you the good and the bad compared to the HC3800.


HD20 Pros
  • You can find it for less than $1,000 and it's a good projector in that price range.
  • Excellent offset for handling tight ceiling situations.
  • Good overall blacks--better than the HC3800 imho.
  • Bright, but not as bright as the HC3800.
  • Sync issues not as big a problem as with the HC3800.
  • Easier to tweak than the HC3800, but HC3800 better out-of-the box.


HD20 Cons
  • Not as sharp as the HC3800.
  • Does good with 1080p input, not so good with 720p (soft) or 480p (ugh!).
  • Does not have that "3D" look that I was use to with the Optoma HD70, and the now the HC3800.

Thanks for the response. Most of those don't concern me, except the sharpness. That is what I really like about the DLP picture over the LCDs that I have seen. But I think the offset is going to be too much for me on the HC3800.
 

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Originally Posted by threed123 /forum/post/18278637


Sure, I will tell you the good and the bad compared to the HC3800.


HD20 Pros
  • You can find it for less than $1,000 and it's a good projector in that price range.
  • Excellent offset for handling tight ceiling situations.
  • Good overall blacks--better than the HC3800 imho.
  • Bright, but not as bright as the HC3800.
  • Sync issues not as big a problem as with the HC3800.
  • Easier to tweak than the HC3800, but HC3800 better out-of-the box.


HD20 Cons
  • Not as sharp as the HC3800.
  • Does good with 1080p input, not so good with 720p (soft) or 480p (ugh!).
  • Does not have that "3D" look that I was use to with the Optoma HD70, and the now the HC3800.


do you really think it has better blacks! or you mean the other way around.
 

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HC3800 from what I've seen...stretch your budget less than $300 and its yours

Note that until the end of March, Mitsubishi is offering a mail-in rebate for a free bulb for all HC3800s purchased from North American stock.


Since the HC3800 can be had for
 

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do you really think it has better blacks! or you mean the other way around.

Yup, the HD20 had better blacks in my eyes even after tweaking the HC3800 and doing very little tweaking on the HD20. That said, as you can see by my pros and cons, better blacks are not always the one selling point. The poor signal processor on the HD20 and lack of sharpness turned me off big time. If, however, all you do is movies at 1080p with blu-ray, the HD20 is then a very close contender. If you do a lot of cable TV at 720p and 1080i, and gaming, then HC3800 wins.
 

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I'm considering upgrading this spring from my Mits HD1000 to a 1080p unit.

The talk around this HC3800 has caught my attention, will the offset be similar to my HD1000? Will I be able to just swap them out and make some adjustments?


My nifty new Blu Ray player is itching to throw some 1080p goodness.
 

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All I want for Christmas is for Mits to make a special version of the HC3800 that includes 3D support, with hdmi 1.4, as well as plenty of vertical and horizontal lens shift, so I can also do the Poor Man's Zoom Trick for 2:35:1.


Once I can find a projector that can do all of that for under $1500, I'm sold!
 

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I have seen the HD20 about 3 times now and can say without a doubt that it does not have better blacks than the HC3800. Now it is possible that certain modes of the HD20 appear to make for better blacks because they are dimmer than the HC3800 but once you have both properly calibrated the 3800 offers better black level. Is it a night and day difference, no, but there none the less. The HD20 actually has a very washed out look to it in a 'proper' room vs. the HC3800 (far more POP and Depth of image on the 3800).


Jason
 
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