[JBS]

We currently have a Marantz VP12S1 in our custom theater, and it still impresses people. We don't notice rainbows, but the action scenes get blurry (which I'm told is a function of single-chip DLP).


If we wanted to upgrade to 3-chip (or equivalent) and cost isn't too much of a factor (

 

[gandley]

If staying with DLP then the SIM2 C3X1080 would be the best bet. im not sure that dlps show motion blur more than other types of projection.

By my experience DLP tends to have the best motion handling or at leaset seems to maintain higer resolution while in movement than either LCD or LiCos and having just demoed the SIM2 C3X 1080 side by side with the JVC hd750 i can say the JVC drops quite a bit of resolution with rapid movement compared to the Sim2.

 

[darinp2]



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Originally Posted by JBS /forum/post/15396099


We currently have a Marantz VP12S1 in our custom theater, and it still impresses people. We don't notice rainbows, but the action scenes get blurry (which I'm told is a function of single-chip DLP).

Action scenes will probably get somewhat blurry on anything, but there are differing degrees. You may want to check out a 1080p single chip DLP also since you have a 720p unit now. My understanding is that the 1080p single chip DLP units have 2 controller chips to provide processing speed and I think it is possible that you would have less of a problem with the 1080p units than your current 720p as far as motion.


There was a rumor posted about InFocus coming out with a 1080p 3 chip unit and I figure that they will either show one at CES in less than 2 weeks or there won't be one from them real soon (and possibly never).


--Darin

 

[JBS]

The most difficult part is... we just watched the Blu ray Indiana Jones on our old Marantz VP12S1 last night, and it's hard to imagine how an upgrade will look that much better. Each improvement in projectors is becoming incrementally smaller it seems.


Admittedly, our trouble-free contentment has kept us from upgrading or desiring change. But 1080p is obviously better than 720p, so now's the time. Currently, I'm searching the threads on the Marantz VP11S2L (long throw) and Sony VPL-VW200, but it appears the Sony doesn't have a long-throw lens except perhaps as an aftermarket add-on. We know the Marantz is a single DC4 chip, but it got amazing reviews (if you ignore the price).

 

[darinp2]



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Originally Posted by JBS /forum/post/15396099


We don't notice rainbows, but the action scenes get blurry (which I'm told is a function of single-chip DLP).

Have you been to a digital cinema and looked at what happens during action scenes there? That could give you some idea about how much of the blurriness is inherently in the source.


--Darin

 

[twenty/twenty]

JBS,


Is your screen 120" in diag or width and what aspect ratio is it?

 

[coldmachine]



Quote:
Originally Posted by JBS /forum/post/15396099


We currently have a Marantz VP12S1 in our custom theater, and it still impresses people. We don't notice rainbows, but the action scenes get blurry (which I'm told is a function of single-chip DLP).


If we wanted to upgrade to 3-chip (or equivalent) and cost isn't too much of a factor (

 

[Tryg]

Check out the Planar


also the JVCs are 3 chip and meet your throw requirements.

 

[JBS]



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Originally Posted by twenty/twenty /forum/post/15398028


JBS,


Is your screen 120" in diag or width and what aspect ratio is it?

The screen is a Firehawk: 107 x 60 (123" diag) or 1.8 aspect ratio. The theater is a totally black-out design, so ambient light is never an issue.


I think that was supposedly pushing the limits of our original Marantz, but we never had any complaints about brightness. I'm not sure how the brightness or bulb size of the new Marantz VP11S2 compares with our old VP12S1, however.


We want "top quality" but also ease of use and durability. Going a full 6 years without a service call or lamp replacement (now at 1700hrs, but a bit too dim) impressed us

... we're spoiled!

 

[twenty/twenty]

You might consider updating your screen as well, but things can get a bit more complicated/expensive as you go.


Consider a 2.35 to one AR with a Stewart Studiotec 1.3 gain screen. Extremely popular with the new higher contrast PJ's, particularly if you have the total blackout theater.

 

[peterho3]

If motion blur bothers you then it is a good idea to check out those current 1080p pj with 120Hz frame interpolation. Improvement can be dramatic. Pan shots stay sharp and rock solid with my VW80. But only Epson 6500 can throw 120" in 25'. You probably won't UPGRADE to a cheap model. Just take a look and get some idea what this new feature can do to fight motion blur is still fun.

 

[TAGLIA]

JBS- you say you watched Bluray on the VP12S1- can I ask which player you have and how it is connected? I too have the VP12S1 and was under the impression that since no HDMI port is included Bluray won't play? My machine only has RGB and Component inputs that go up to 1080i. Consequently I am thinking about a newer model too (VP12S1?)

Thanks.

 

[TAGLIA]

Sorry I meant the VP11S1- 1080P. I see refurb ones about the same price as a new Sony VW60.

 

[chester43]



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Originally Posted by TAGLIA /forum/post/15416464


Sorry I meant the VP11S1- 1080P. I see refurb ones about the same price as a new Sony VW60.

The Sony VW60 is a better choice than.

 

[Michael W.]



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Originally Posted by peterho3 /forum/post/15399006


If motion blur bothers you then it is a good idea to check out those current 1080p pj with 120Hz frame interpolation. Improvement can be dramatic. Pan shots stay sharp and rock solid with my VW80. But only Epson 6500 can throw 120" in 25'. You probably won't UPGRADE to a cheap model. Just take a look and get some idea what this new feature can do to fight motion blur is still fun.

Be careful... The 120Hz frame interpolation adds another whole problem of making films look like video. Every person I have talked to that has tried a movie with the 120Hz interpolation hated it, it turns a cinematic film into looking like something filmed with a home video camera.