Denon X1500 currently on close-out. Brand new with full warranty.
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By far, the best deal out there.Bet bet is the Yamaha TSR-7850 from CostCo....
A stock, great warranty, only AVR brand that is HDMI/HDCP certified....
Just my $0.02.....
Don't let the WPC be the main determining factor if that's why you're considering this one. 95 WPC vs. 110 WPC isn't that big of a difference. What makes a HUGE difference is the room correction software & processing capabilities.
Whenever I stated that the difference between my Denon X2400H (Audyssey XT/95 WPC) and my Onkyo NR656 (AccuEQ/100 WPC) wasn't/isn't even close, is not an exaggeration. The bigger soundstage/spatial seperation is one of the biggest surprises, and the difference that it made when listening to music was also night & day. With the Onkyo I had to crank up the sub trim to get the low end that was needed, and voices were way too pronounced (especially women's voices). And again...the overall surround processing is SOOOO much better with the Denon.
This is in no way just me having a particular "brand bias". It's just some info from my recent upgrade experience that I wanted to share to help you make a good choice. That is after all why you're asking for help...is it not?
Darrell
Yep that's why I'm here. I don't want to jump into anything.Don't let the WPC be the main determining factor if that's why you're considering this one. 95 WPC vs. 110 WPC isn't that big of a difference. What makes a HUGE difference is the room correction software & processing capabilities.
Whenever I stated that the difference between my Denon X2400H (Audyssey XT/95 WPC) and my Onkyo NR656 (AccuEQ/100 WPC) wasn't/isn't even close, is not an exaggeration. The bigger soundstage/spatial seperation is one of the biggest surprises, and the difference that it made when listening to music was also night & day. With the Onkyo I had to crank up the sub trim to get the low end that was needed, and voices were way too pronounced (especially women's voices). And again...the overall surround processing is SOOOO much better with the Denon.
This is in no way just me having a particular "brand bias". It's just some info from my recent upgrade experience that I wanted to share to help you make a good choice. That is after all why you're asking for help...is it not?
Darrell
Glad to hear your experience with both brands. I think before I commit I'll have to hear a few for myself. It would be hard with some of the discontinued models I'm looking at though. CNET seems biased towards Onkyo over Denon, calling Denons more "warm" but not as good for music in a couple reviews I read. I don't trust pro reviewers either and they don't review every model from every manufacturer. They don't even have a review for some of the ones in this thread.
Looking more into Audyssey it looks like quite a few people prefer that. Right now I think the AVR-X2500H may be the one. Anything would most likely be an improvement over my TX-SR702. I just got all new Polk S-series speakers and running them on an antique.
I think CNET is smoking crack.
A. Warm is what you generally want for music.
B. Denon is NOT considered warm by it's consumers, and has always been cited to be better for HT vs. Marantz. "WARM" would be the description of their counterpart, Marantz.
C. CNET is smoking crack!! Lol
D. It's hard to deny word of mouth by the consumers that own these products. Although, you do have to learn to read between the lines to an extent to be able differentiate between the biased reviews vs. the good, honest reviews.
Yes, the X2500H is the 2018 model, whereas the X2400H is the 2017 model, and for $10 more, you might as well get the X2500H.
Also, I actually hadn't thought about the refurbs possibly being better, but I like the way you're thinking here.
As far as demoing them, the only way to get a true representation of what it can do is by doing it "in-home" with it connected to YOUR speakers in YOUR room. Of course you'd have to purchase one first. Lol
Don't overthink it.
After reading every review I could find, I decided to try the Denon X2500H. It was almost a coin flip between that and the Onkyo TX-NR777. Both sounded like everything I was looking for and the refurbished prices were close. 95 watts should be more than I'll ever need even though the speakers are rated over 100. I don't plan on getting any knocks on my door.Yes, the X2500H is the 2018 model, whereas the X2400H is the 2017 model, and for $10 more, you might as well get the X2500H.
Also, I actually hadn't thought about the refurbs possibly being better, but I like the way you're thinking here.
As far as demoing them, the only way to get a true representation of what it can do is by doing it "in-home" with it connected to YOUR speakers in YOUR room. Of course you'd have to purchase one first. Lol
Don't overthink it.
Thanks everyone for the advice. Hopefully all goes well. This old TX-SR702 actually sounds great to me, but it just doesn't have any of the latest features and I know I'm missing out on something.
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