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Best cable for JL audio Fantom F113

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I have been using audio quest sub1 cables for my subs and have been happy but have not A,B them agents anything else so before I blindly buy I would like to get some input. I just bought 2, F113 so I will need 2 balanced xlr cables for them. One for the D2 processor to the sub and the other to connect the other sub as a slave. What is the best ones out there without breaking the bank.
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Cables won't make a difference, you can look at monoprice or bluejeanscable for what you need.

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Originally Posted by programmergeek /forum/post/15407212


I have been using audio quest sub1 cables for my subs and have been happy but have not A,B them agents anything else so before I blindly buy I would like to get some input. I just bought 2, F113 so I will need 2 balanced xlr cables for them. One for the D2 processor to the sub and the other to connect the other sub as a slave. What is the best ones out there without breaking the bank.

See my response in the "Official F113 Thread".


Craig
I spent about 40 minutes searching for the "Official F113 Thread" there is nothing by that name and I looked through a bunch of other threads you posted but saw nothing on cables. Can someone point me in the right direction?
As already posted BlueJeanCable.com or monoprice.com.


Don't think any harder than that...the build quality for those options is great and you can not get any thing better SQ wise.

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Originally Posted by programmergeek /forum/post/15421876


I spent about 40 minutes searching for the "Official F113 Thread" there is nothing by that name and I looked through a bunch of other threads you posted but saw nothing on cables. Can someone point me in the right direction?


I think Craig means this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=736243


I can't tell you where in that thread Craig named the brand of cable he recommends, but I agree with Penngray, an inexpensive XLR cable will sound as good as a $1,000 cable, (and will be much easier to work with because it won't be an inch thick, and very stiff).


Some may disagree, but the argument has been going on for decades with no definitive answer.


Here is a link to bluejeans cable balanced:

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/...udio/index.htm


A 15 foot cable will run you $39 to $43 plus shipping.
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ok I have read that entire thread. The thing is freeking long and just spent 20 more minutes going through it again! This is a waste of time can someone point me to the post or quote it! Searching is not working for me. I just need a some input not to spend hours searching for a answer in threads that are hundred of messages long.


Thanks for the advice for blue jeans cables I have a bunch already and may go that direction. I do beleve cable make a difference, Sorry if this anoys anyone. I have a velodyne and going to a better silver cable was very noticable and tighened things up, wheathor this would make a difference in the Fantom I don't know, also silver could be to tight and copper may be better that is why I am posting to find out a good match, I also know there are other factors involved.

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Originally Posted by programmergeek /forum/post/15424498


ok I have read that entire thread. The thing is freeking long and just spent 20 more minutes going through it again! This is a waste of time can someone point me to the post or quote it! Searching is not working for me. I just need a some input not to spend hours searching for a answer in threads that are hundred of messages long.


Thanks for the advice for blue jeans cables I have a bunch already and may go that direction. I do beleve cable make a difference, Sorry if this anoys anyone. I have a velodyne and going to a better silver cable was very noticable and tighened things up, wheathor this would make a difference in the Fantom I don't know, also silver could be to tight and copper may be better that is why I am posting to find out a good match, I also know there are other factors involved.


Why don't you call J L Audio and ask them which XLR cable sounds best with their subwoofers?
Don't forget your cable supports then........and dielectric shampoo and conditioner~!

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Originally Posted by programmergeek /forum/post/15424498


ok I have read that entire thread. The thing is freeking long and just spent 20 more minutes going through it again! This is a waste of time can someone point me to the post or quote it! Searching is not working for me. I just need a some input not to spend hours searching for a answer in threads that are hundred of messages long.


Thanks for the advice for blue jeans cables I have a bunch already and may go that direction. I do beleve cable make a difference, Sorry if this anoys anyone. I have a velodyne and going to a better silver cable was very noticable and tighened things up, wheathor this would make a difference in the Fantom I don't know, also silver could be to tight and copper may be better that is why I am posting to find out a good match, I also know there are other factors involved.

Check out Audioquest.

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I do beleve cable make a difference, Sorry if this anoys anyone. I have a velodyne and going to a better silver cable was very noticable and tighened things up, wheathor this would make a difference in the Fantom I don't know, also silver could be to tight and copper may be better that is why I am posting to find out a good match, I also know there are other factors involved.

That is called the placebo effect since you thought the cables made a difference, it has been proven over and over again that cables do not sound different, by measurements and double blind testing.
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If you like silver then I recommend rs cables or signal cables but I also own monoprice cables and they are excellent. You will have a hard time telling them apart.

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Originally Posted by programmergeek /forum/post/15424498


ok I have read that entire thread. The thing is freeking long and just spent 20 more minutes going through it again! This is a waste of time can someone point me to the post or quote it! Searching is not working for me. I just need a some input not to spend hours searching for a answer in threads that are hundred of messages long.


Thanks for the advice for blue jeans cables I have a bunch already and may go that direction. I do beleve cable make a difference, Sorry if this anoys anyone. I have a velodyne and going to a better silver cable was very noticable and tighened things up, wheathor this would make a difference in the Fantom I don't know, also silver could be to tight and copper may be better that is why I am posting to find out a good match, I also know there are other factors involved.

Sorry for the confusion. I posted a response to your question in the "JL Audio 13" Sub" thread, linked to by spyboy above. Your question was about the type of cable, rca or XLR, used to connect the F113. I did not post a recommendation about the *brand* of cable. Personally, I don't believe expensive cables make a difference. I have a sub cable custom made for me by RAM Electronics, (a former forum sponsor), out of coaxial cable and RCA plugs. The "custom" part was the length of 32'. I use a Bluejeans XLR Cable to connect my F112's for Master/Slave mode.


Craig

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Originally Posted by programmergeek /forum/post/15424498


ok I have read that entire thread. The thing is freeking long and just spent 20 more minutes going through it again! This is a waste of time can someone point me to the post or quote it! Searching is not working for me. I just need a some input not to spend hours searching for a answer in threads that are hundred of messages long.


Thanks for the advice for blue jeans cables I have a bunch already and may go that direction. I do beleve cable make a difference, Sorry if this anoys anyone. I have a velodyne and going to a better silver cable was very noticable and tighened things up, wheathor this would make a difference in the Fantom I don't know, also silver could be to tight and copper may be better that is why I am posting to find out a good match, I also know there are other factors involved.


We don't mind being annoyed if you don't mind wasting your money. Since you have had good luck with Audio Quest why don't you stick with them?


The vast majority of posters on this Forum wouldn't spend the money on silver cables. As others have said, cables make no audible difference unless they have something like a capacitor attached.


You may not remember but there was a company with a box on the end of the cable. When you attach a capacitor, resistor, or any active component to the cable you WILL hear a difference.


Then again, you may truly be a golden ear. I have read one story in which one out of 10 listeners could identify a specific cable more than 50% of the time.
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Blue jeans cables it is, thanks for the advice in subs apparently people don’t hear much of a difference, that was the answer I was looking for. But if you are not hearing a difference in interconnects either your source is not good and I can understand that with using cable/tv as a source or that is not the week point of the system. The cable will not make a difference if your speakers, preamp, processor, monoblocks are not capable of that level of fidelity but once you get there, you can definably hear a difference.


Sorry I didn’t mean to turn this into a do cables make a difference thread I only wanted to see what people found matched the f113 best and to go that rout. With the AOR software it may compensate for whatever cable you use anyhow. In the past I found a manuafacture will not recomend a cable anyhoe and I find the combined knowldge is usally better anyhow.

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The vast majority of posters on this Forum wouldn't spend the money on silver cables. As others have said, cables make no audible difference unless they have something like a capacitor attached.


You may not remember but there was a company with a box on the end of the cable. When you attach a capacitor, resistor, or any active component to the cable you WILL hear a difference.

Even at that one still can not tell the difference, the high end section of this forum did a double blind test with $30,000 transparent cables and still the listener could not tell.

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But if you are not hearing a difference in interconnects either your source is not good and I can understand that with using cable/tv as a source or that is not the week point of the system. The cable will not make a difference if your speakers, preamp, processor, monoblocks are not capable of that level of fidelity but once you get there, you can definably hear a difference.

Wrong again, please tell me how a cable can make a difference? Even since the wire inside a component or speaker is basic copper and lets not forget the huge amount of basic copper that makes up the voice coils on your speaker drivers.
Besides the cables that I make, I have posted on the BAS site the links to ALL the cable / interconnect mfgs that I have been able to find in the last 8 years. It makes for some amazing reading.


The page is here:
http://www.bostonaudiosociety.org/links5.htm


it's the ENTIRE right column.

Enjoy.

Barry
Wrong again, please tell me how a cable can make a difference? Even since the wire inside a component or speaker is basic copper and lets not forget the huge amount of basic copper that makes up the voice coils on your speaker drivers.

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Take a good length of cable and measure the resistance then try it again of a different guage/quailty of pure copper. you will see a difference. Also the size strands make a difference etc. If you didn't get any difference why don't we just all use radio shack cables heck they are 1/2 the price of bluejeans cables. For that matter why even go stranded that is more $$$ to make why just only do a couple of strands. Or why not just use aluminum it is ligher and cheaper and will work.


Anyone making this statement cables do not matter at all should go buy there cables at the cheapest place possable, but I dont' see anyone using home depo zip cord why not? Just depends what level system you are trying to build.
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