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Best dvd demo period using smarts 6.1 adaptor !

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The movie Bats is incoded in ex and when used with the smart 6.1 adaptor this is the best audio demonstration I have ever heard. Nothing comes close.

Im using the smart with a lexicon in the 7.1 mode.

Bats has the best use ex mix to date.

The story line has something to desire

but the audio...

Get this movie and if you dont have a ex decoder I highly recommend the smart.
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Why do you need the Smart 6.1 adapter?, when v4.0 of the Lex supports DD-EX?


-Mark
Because we like the way the SMART does it better. Not to mention we can have more channels when using the smart. I am runn 8.1 audio. Lex MC-1 in Logic 7 mode, add the Smart 3X processor, 8.1.


That gives me L-C-R Front, L-R Sides, L-C-R Rear, Sub.


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Davids right... I have an additional spkr added to my system just like in theaters. Its unreal.
Wow! And I thought I was pretty slick with my measly seven channels.


I have the Atlantic Technologies 350THX, with an extra pair of 350SR for the rear channels. Would I use another 350C center channel speaker as the rear-center channel? Or even worse, would I replace my rear surrounds with another set of fronts?


Also, this is the first I have heard of a Smart 6.1 adapter. Is this the Smart CS-3X Jr?


Buddy


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Buddy: Just pick up another 350SR so you will have a match site in the rear. Add the 3X and you are off and running. (Note you need an amp to power the rear center channel.) Yes...it is the Smart 3x Jr.

jdb: Yes...it takes the L & R rear and gives you a L C R rear. It runs out of the Lex L & R rear into the 3X processor...Out of the 3X (L C R) into your amp.




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Well, I'm glad it's working out for you two. Knowing the way Lex has implemented their steering logic and EX, it would shift the center rear image either right or left if you used Dipoles for the rear speakers. It would work fine with monopoles across the rear.




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Have I got this right?

Lex 7.1 mode is L C R front and L R sides.

Smart adapter Takes over L R rear from Lex. and adds the rear center (EX)channel?

Or just adds the Rear center?

As I ve become more educated (still rather dence) I ve come to realize my A/V Guru is full of beans. Maybe I should go back to "Basic Stereo 101" and start over? Anyone point me to a reading site that is "sound information"? Thanks, jdb.

Just curious: how much for the Smart 6.1?


-Mark
Mark,


It is available from the online quickstore here at AV Science for $299.

Click Here, select Category "Audio Processors".


Buddy


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Alan, does the sub output in the Smart extract REAR channel L.F.E. or does it just give you a duplicate L.F.E.?
The SMART CS-3X, Jr. SUB output is the sum of the Left Surround input and the Right Surround input signals which then passes through a 125 Hz 12 dB per octave low pass filter.


I have taken a lot of criticism regarding my choice of 125Hz instead of 80Hz. I chose 125Hz since so many surround speakers simply do not have very useable low frequency response. This is meant to be a sub channel for the surrounds, not for the main channels.


If it is really a problem for someone, I can tell you which 2 resistors to change in order to set the cutoff frequency to 80Hz.


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Anyone up for de-matrixing "sky" and "floor" channels? We could use spherical rooms with grid floors.
This has already been done. Gerson and Hawkesford experimented with this and it is a part of the Ambisonic specification. (Ambisonic includes both a matrixed and discrete spec). It is also a part of TMH Corp's 10.2 specification.


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Hi


Excuse me but I'm a bit new to so many channels because I'm use to hearing my home theater witha simple receiver 5.1.


Now I'm redoing my entire home theater and I'm going to start over with a pc that I will use for video and audio.


Is there any place where I can read about all that system that you are talking about since I really have no clue http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/frown.gif .


Thanks Everybody!!!


Federico
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You can read about the smart processor at
www.smartdev.com


The smart will work with a receiver or a seperate dd/dts processor.

It is a great unit. Well worth the money and I am not just saying this because I sell it. I sell it because it is great.
Sorry for bringing it to the top!


I'm in the middle of wiring my theater before I install the sheetrock. before I close it up, I'd like to know if I should wire for extra speakers in provision for it.


I am a bit of a newbie when it comes to the latest technology beyond 5.1. Just have not followed it. When I bought the Pioneer, my dealer told me I could use the pre-outs on this thing to accomodate future surround technology upgrades.


Can you please share some info?


Does Alan still sell the Smart?


Thanks,


luca
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Luca,

well, what you would do is take the pre outs for the left and right rear and run them into the smart decoder. the smart decoder will "generate" new left, center, and right rear signals for you. now these signals will be unamplified- so you'll need to amplify them for your speakers. some recievers have pre amp or "line level" input and it might be able for you to use the internal amps in your reciever for these channels- your receiver has 5 amps in it for the 5 channels its expecting to drive (the .1 is for the subwoofer and that usually means a powered subwoofer). now if this doesnt work youll need to buy 3 channels of amplification. you dont have to go overboard, these are surround channels so I wouldnt spend more than you absolutely need to.


- Jerry
"..it takes the L & R rear and gives you a L C R rear. It runs out of the Lex L & R rear into the 3X processor...Out of the 3X (L C R) into your amp."


I have a Pioneer VSX-26TX 5.1 receiver. It has an analog 6 channel pre-out in the back to send any of these 6 line level signals to be powered independently with other amps. Can I use the Smart with it to achieve what you guys are talking about? And how do I hook it up? If not, what equipment do I need in addition to this to make it work?


Thanks,


Luca
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