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Hello,


I'm looking at getting into this HiFi audio stuff, but my difficulty is finding speakers of a reasonable size for my environment, but still with excellent performance. I'll be in a university apartment for the coming year, and then in a probably equally small living space for however many years of grad school afterwards, so I'm trying to find something compact enough to work for a very small room with non-ideal dimensions. I can't pump out full volumes either due to neighbor concerns.


I originally was looking through bookshelf speakers in general, but I've started to narrow my tastes to the more compact speakers due to limited space and positioning I'll have available. My price range is at or around $500, mainly looking at used. Everything will be driven by a Denon 2310/890 receiver. I don't have a decent sub yet, and probably will not be getting one for a good while. I have listening tastes across the board, everything from classical and jazz on through metal and techno/dance.


Previously, I was looking at NHT's Classic Three, Epos ELS 3, Mirage OMNI 150s, and Energy RC10s. Most of those are "normal" sized speakers for that range, however, and may be bigger than what would work for me. So I've started looking at smaller packages that still offer great sound.


I'm looking primarily at Totem's Dreamcatcher and Mite speakers. They seem to get great reviews, although availibility is limited. Also looking good is the Silverline Minuet. It's a lot harder to try and find front monitors categorized by size, so I was hoping that some of you with a bit more experience in the market would have some ideas for what to look into?


Thanks for any suggestions. I'm not entirely sworn off getting something on the slightly larger end, but simply have a preference for smaller for the time being.
 

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I've seen the C-50s listed, but I would probably go with the RC-Minis over them. I haven't been able to find many reviews of the C-50s, and the price is quite a bit under my budget. I mean, it's great if they perform as well as anything more expensive, but I haven't been able to see many reviews to attest to that. There aren't any dealers in this area either, so auditioning them would be a bit difficult.
 

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I've seen the C-50s listed, but I would probably go with the RC-Minis over them. I haven't been able to find many reviews of the C-50s, and the price is quite a bit under my budget. I mean, it's great if they perform as well as anything more expensive, but I haven't been able to see many reviews to attest to that. There aren't any dealers in this area either, so auditioning them would be a bit difficult.

Are the C-100's to large for you, what about the RC line?
 

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I'd like for the set to be used primarily on a desktop (granted, a fairly spacey desktop). Height isn't an issue so much, but ideally width and depth will be less than 8 inches each, width closer to 6. A little above would probably be fine, but preferred less.
 

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if you aren't going to add a sub any time soon, stay away from tiny monitors like the RC-Mini or C-50 with smaller than 5" woofers. If you are willing to add a small sub, that changes things...


I think the RC-10 would be a good choice (they really aren't THAT big honestly), or any of the others above (like the Ushers) but $500 is a good budget and you could probably find a really nice pair of compact studio monitors with 5.5" or larger woofers that would sound great.
 

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Which of the mini-monitors should I go for if I spent some or a little over my budget on a sub? I have a cheapy sub with me (brand/model not worth mentioning, really), but it's a sub nonetheless.
 

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I'll leave the D4's as an option, but availability is an issue for me... the nearest dealer is 120 miles away. I see a set used on audiogon, but it'll probably be gone by the time I'm actually set to purchase.
 

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You might also consider the Axiom M2 bookshelves ( www.axiomaudio.com ). A pair of these go for only $296 US ($235 from their factory direct store).


The M2s seem to be very highly regarded considering the price. Their frequency distribution is fairly flat (Freq Resp +/-3dB (Hz): 70 - 22kHz). I have a pair of these and I would characterize their sound as forward, very wide, and "very accurate", and will reveal any flaws in a recording.

http://www.axiomaudio.com/m2.html


Here's a review of them:

http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/axiom_m2i.htm


Keep in mind that speakers in the "smallish" size are best paired with a subwoofer. I have a JBL es150p ($200) which seems to do an adequate job.


Regards,

Andrew
 

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Since you were looking at NHT Classic 3s, have you considered the NHT Absolute Zeros? You can buy a pair new from NHT or an authorized retailer for $298, leaving you $200 for a sub if you want. You have diverse musical tastes, so you'll want speakers that excel with the jazz and classical too. I have the Classic series and really like them.
 

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You've gotten some good recommendations so far.


The RC-10's are very nice...and fairly compact - 13H x 6.5W x 9.5D actual dimensions.


Era D4 have a great reputation, and can be had around $400ish used.


But if you're looking for really compact, I'd be on the lookout for a used pair of ACI Emerald XL's, or check with ACI on a b-stock pair. I just got three of these for my bedroom and they are absolutely amazing speakers.


BTW, the Emerald's are almost exactly the footprint size you're looking for. You really would want a sub with them though, and the Emeralds alone will chew up your whole budget.


If you decide to get a sub now...then I'd look harder at RC-10's or used Usher S-520. If those are too big for what you want...then maybe go for the NHT absolute zero's.


As far as a sub...the Energy ESW-V8 is a great small sub, and you can get it now from wwstereo through ebay with 10% cashback for a total of $225 shipped. The RC-10's and NHT absolute zero's can be had new for $300...so buying them used could keep you under your budget.
 

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RC-10! you won't regret it if you listen to anything but the bassiest music..
 

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Heck, I'm using 5 Infinity Beta-20's as "mini monitors" because they're all about 3 ft from my head. It's more than I need for my computer system, but still works incredibly well for both movies and games. And I spent less than 300.00 shipped for all 5.


Too bad they're bigger than what you can use.


I used to use some Monitor Audio RS1's on my computer, but I'm selling them since I have 5 identical speakers. They work well and fit your footprint. You could try looking around for some?
 

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If your looking for used like you say you can do better than the Energy Rc-10's for $500. I would be patient and watch audiogon

But if he wants to include a sub on that budget....he loses alot of options in the $500 used range.


The RC-10/ESW-V8 combo can make a very good 2.1 for a small room, and is still within his budget.


Of couse, I agree - if he will put the entire $500 now toward just speakers...there are alot of other options.
 
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