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I'm replacing my current home theater setup, and have settled on some Focal speakers. I fell in love with them on first listen with my sample CD, and the other speakers I've listened to in the same price range (Chorus 716V as L/R speakers, CC700V center and 705V's as surrounds) just haven't impressed me the same way. Their bass leaves a bit to be desired, but their upper-end detail is superb. So I need a good subwoofer to fill out the bass deficiencies.


A handful of people have directed me away from Focal's subwoofers for bang-for-the-buck, and one who has worked in the A/V business for 20 years suggested that I look to three Paradigm subwoofers for my budget: DSP 3200, UltraCube 10, and SE (Special Edition). The Cube is about $1K, and the others are about $800.


I'm unsure whether I'll be able to make it back out to the "local" Paradigm dealer's shop before I want to make my purchase, so I was hoping you guys might be able to help steer me in the right direction. What are the pros and cons of these three subs? I get the impression that the UltraCube is designed to minimize footprint-per-bass, and that I'd be paying a price premium for the small size. I don't mind a larger sub, and if I can get equal-or-better sound for $200 less, I will.


These speakers will be used for music and movies. They'll probably be used for music more often, but when playing music, we're usually around the house doing stuff, so it's when we're watching movies that we're sitting still and paying closest attention to the sound.


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Are you limited on size or just those three? There are LOTS of excellent (probably much better than what you're looking at) from the Internet Direct brands here such as SVS, HSU, Epik, Elemental Designs, etc. If you truly need a small footprint, take a look at the SVS cylinder subs.
 

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Well, the HSU VTF-15H is barely OVER 1k shipped, so its not technically in your price range, but i think it merits consideration. I'm absolutely in love with mine.
 

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Are you limited on size or just those three? There are LOTS of excellent (probably much better than what you're looking at) from the Internet Direct brands here such as SVS, HSU, Epik, Elemental Designs, etc. If you truly need a small footprint, take a look at the SVS cylinder subs.

X2. The subs from these companies is where I started my search when looking for a sub back in December. I ended up with a Hsu but all are solid candidates.
 

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I may start a different post for sub recommendations but I was just curious what people thought of these Paradigm subs vs ID brands in the $500-$700 range (b/c I can get the Paradigm subs at a pretty good discount). My new system will consist of a pair of Studio 20s for fronts, cc-590 for center, and adp-390s for surrounds. I will be doing like 80% movies/tv/games vs 20% music. I was just curious what people said about these Paradigm subs and if one might pair with my system better then a 3rd party brand. Thanks!
 

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There is never much feedback on the name brand subs other than don't buy one, buy a Hsu, Elemental Designs, Epik, SVS, Rythmik instead.

There are a couple of Paradigm specific threads in the subwoofer section, maybe if you cross post there you can get some better feedback.
 
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You have a ton of choices and the best thing to do is contact Hsu, eD, and Epik and have them size subs for your space. Keep in mind that you'll be getting quotes for sealed and ported subwoofers and that they have a different sound. Speaker purely in generalities and assuming equal quality a sealed box will sound slightly tighter but give up action movie rumble.
 

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Speaking from experience that the Paradigm DSP-3200 is an awsome sub. I was a little concerned because it is a ported sub but after testing it I no longer have any pre-concieved notions about subs with correctly tuned ports. A friend of mine picked up a DSP-3200 for $500, while testing Transformers DTS-MA soundtracks the bass was extremely powerful and composed all the way down to around 20hz. One track I like to use to test out subwoofer preformance is "Worried Shoes" by Karen O and the kids. This song requires a sub to be able to sustain very subtle changes in extended bass notes. The DSP-3200 handled this track with great finess, bringing the songs emotionaly ominous meaning to the surface.


With that said I think the ID sub the resembles the Paradigm DSP-3200 the closest is the Outlaw LFM-1 Plus. These two subs have almost identical specifications and based on the positive reviews of the Outlaw I would consider it a direct competitor to the Paradigm DSP-3200.
 

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Have you listened to the SVS PC12-NSD DSP or HSU VTF-2 MK 3? I was looking at those and wondering how they compared to the dsp-3200.

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Speaking from experience that the Paradigm DSP-3200 is an awsome sub. I was a little concerned because it is a ported sub but after testing it I no longer have any pre-concieved notions about subs with correctly tuned ports. A friend of mine picked up a DSP-3200 for $500, while testing Transformers DTS-MA soundtracks the bass was extremely powerful and composed all the way down to around 20hz. One track I like to use to test out subwoofer preformance is "Worried Shoes" by Karen O and the kids. This song requires a sub to be able to sustain very subtle changes in extended bass notes. The DSP-3200 handled this track with great finess, bringing the songs emotionaly ominous meaning to the surface.


With that said I think the ID sub the resembles the Paradigm DSP-3200 the closest is the Outlaw LFM-1 Plus. These two subs have almost identical specifications and based on the positive reviews of the Outlaw I would consider it a direct competitor to the Paradigm DSP-3200.
 

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Mac13, Unfortunately no...I have been trying to decide between these same subs myself. I am using the Paradigm DSP-3200 as a reference point for preformance and the Outlaw LFM-1 Plus seem to be the closest in specifications.
 
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