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Best ways to backup DVDs keeping audio intact?

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I own a few DTS movies that I'd like to backup. I want to keep the DTS audio, and cut the DD and all the special features. What programs would be the best to do that? Thanks. :)
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DVD Shrink.
I'll Be A Wet Blanket...

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Dvd shrink or dvd dycrptor


Both can be found at
Www.dvdrhelp.com

Theirs also many FAQs on how to use it. And set up the dvd how you want.
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Let the mods mod ok dude? Besides, it's everybodies right to make a backup copy of the dvds they own. Not to mention there's an entire forum here set up for questions like this: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=106


To answer the OP's question. DVD Shrink is all you need, since it will allow you select the audio track you want. The thing is with every dvd just the video and the DTS track will always be larger then can fit on a dvd5. Since you want to strip everything but the video and DTS track, I assume you're not going to be using Dual Layer media for you backups. So the choice you have to make it either to compress your backup, or split it across two dvd5's. If video quality doesn't matter to you, or you want to spend as little as possible on blank dvd's, then I guess you could compress your backups. I would caution against it, because IMO the only thing that's possibly worse the compressing a dvd is buying a cropped dvd, so if you decide you want to split your dvd's, you can use Shrink as well, but if you want to keep the menus, you will also need a proggie called VobBlanker. It's free and very easy to use, and there are tons of guides out there.
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Let the mods mod ok dude? Besides, it's everybodies right to make a backup copy of the dvds they own.
I'm not interested in fighting over who is or isn't a mod, but just to be clear, in absolute black and white and undeniable terms - there is no way to legally back up a CSS encrypted consumer purchased DVD in the USA. Since the DMCA passed in 1997, no one has this "right". Now whether I personally agree with that is another matter entirely, but let's just remember that "backing up" or "ripping" or whatever we want to call it is actually against the law, even if we just want to watch our movies on a HTPC or something. It's convenient, sure, and it doesn't seem like it should be "wrong" but it is 100% illegal - this is because "circumventing" CSS is not allowed by consumers, period.
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No offense, but what an absurd post. First, you're wrong. The DMCA guaranteed the right of fair use. And we had the right to backup our dvd's under the DMCA until 2004 when a judge ignored the fair use provision in the DMCA and ruled basically that, "while people have the right to make personal backups of their dvd's, the tools to make those backups are illegal". Obviously an absurd ruling. And who the f cares? Why take the position of some ridiculous hall monitor?


Bottom line is, as an adult, I feel perfectly comfortable making my own decisions about what is right and wrong. I don't need an outside body to make these decisions for me. You've gotta be one paranoid or guilty sob to feel that you don't have a right to protect your property by making a backup copy of a dvd that is bound to get scratched up eventually.
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No offense, but what an absurd post. First, you're wrong. The DMCA guaranteed the right of fair use. And we had the right to backup our dvd's under the DMCA until 2004 when a judge ignored the fair use provision in the DMCA and ruled basically that, "while people have the right to make personal backups of their dvd's, the tools to make those backups are illegal". Obviously an absurd ruling. And who the f cares? Why take the position of some ridiculous hall monitor?


Bottom line is, as an adult, I feel perfectly comfortable making my own decisions about what is right and wrong. I don't need an outside body to make these decisions for me. You've gotta be one paranoid or guilty sob to feel that you don't have a right to protect your property by making a backup copy of a dvd that is bound to get scratched up eventually.
I backup DVDs all the time but I'm not naive enough to think that it's not against the law. You're a good example of people believing what they want to believe, but that has never changed the truth. The government routinely choose to protect big businesses over individual rights all the time, so why would this be any diferent?
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I backup DVDs all the time but I'm not naive enough to think that it's not against the law. You're a good example of people believing what they want to believe, but that has never changed the truth. The government routinely choose to protect big businesses over individual rights all the time, so why would this be any diferent?
No I'm not. Did I write anywhere that it wasn't illegal? No, so your assessment is baseless. Did you even read my posts? I did make a distinction between the legality of the act and the ethicality. That's the purview of anything thinking adult. It has nothing to do with "believing what I want to believe". :rolleyes:
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there is no way to legally back up a CSS encrypted consumer purchased DVD in the USA.
While that statement may be true, there are DVD's that are not CSS encrypted, and therefore can legally be backed up. If you read the original post, I don't think the poster asked "How do I break the CSS encryption so I can backup my DVD". Therefore discussions about backup software should be allowed.
Legally bought non encrypted DTS discs would be quite rare!!!


That being said, I use tools to break encryption in making back ups that I can label using DVD Title Writer for my Sony megachanger. It's wrong and I wouldn't do it if the gosh darn studios would put the title data on the disc in the DVD Volume area so that my changer would recognize it and show the DVD for what it is.


Use DVD Shrink to chose languages, subtitles, movie only, and compression ratio.
Here is your post:
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No offense, but what an absurd post. First, you're wrong. The DMCA guaranteed the right of fair use.
It doesn't.
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And we had the right to backup our dvd's under the DMCA until 2004 when a judge ignored the fair use provision in the DMCA and ruled basically that, "while people have the right to make personal backups of their dvd's, the tools to make those backups are illegal". Obviously an absurd ruling. And who the f cares? Why take the position of some ridiculous hall monitor?
You just proved that it doesn't.


There is nothing wrong with a member telling you that a post is out of bounds. Perhaps one day it would help you from getting banned.
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Your argument does not apply to matters of LAW and is very dangerous premise indeed you are describing anarchy...the absence of law and rules

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Bottom line is, as an adult, I feel perfectly comfortable making my own decisions about what is right and wrong. I don't need an outside body to make these decisions for me. .
heh. You guys are taking good citizenry to the point of absurdity. Personally I find your need to rely on outside bodies to determine right from wrong and interpret acts of laws in matters as trifling as this amusing.
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www.doom9.org
That site will have all the guides you'll need.


All backup solutions will keep the audio intact. If you want to keep only the DTS and strip all the DD tracks, there's no problem (other than a non-compliant DVD, but if it's only for you, who cares?). If you keep the DTS track, you're most likely going to have to re-encode (or transcode) the video. The best way to handle this is to use a high quality MPEG2 encoder (i.e. CCE) to re-encode the video; transcoders like Shrink simply change the quantization values and are inferior in quality. Going by the fact you're on this board, you probably don't want your backup full of macroblocks and ringing. So anyways, look into DVD-RB which will automate the CCE encoding and re-authoring; there are other methods you can use CCE with, but DVD-RB is THE best tool for DVD backups out there.
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