Beta units Versus Amazon units

So, how does the server know to update our beta units with "T" fw, but not update consumer units. Is it because of the "T" firmware that's already in the beta player before hand?

IF that is true, this could be dangerous if just one "T" firmware got out into the wild. With one "T" fw in hand, someone could have access to all future beta firmwares . I would be hesitant to keep puting "T" firmware on the ethernet server, but that's just me.


It's a good thing Neuromancer's blunder yesterday didn't include "T" firmware



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It was #5 yesterday afternoon.

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Up in popularity again. #5 in Blu-ray Disc Players, #155 in Electronics. (best sellers)

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Up in popularity again. #5 in Blu-ray Disc Players, #155 in Electronics. (best sellers)

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That's got to be a lot of players sold. Anyone want to venture into an educated guess... if that's even possible?


I would consider any real number of -83 players sold to date, to be information kept under eternal NDA.


Where is the infamous Jason anyway? It has been a long time since he's graced us with a post here on the OPPO forum.

I bet Neuromancer knows if we ask him nicely

Hmmm a 4 star review.

"Good unit for its purpose and price. "Universal is relative." BEWARE of the hyperbolic rhetoric by "Early Adopters." Oppo did pretty good with high goals but never attempted VHS (thank goodness)and some other formats. The unit works pretty much as advertised and OEM extras are realistically priced. Support is very good and quick. Oppo seems to like its customers. Costs a little extra ($100) for the DVD-A and SACD features but it's worth it for people with a large library of those disks (like me) who want to trim down the number of boxes and cabling. BUT, if don't have many of those formats and you're not a low budget Classical audiophile who needs the ability to play those formats, don't pay the extra cash.


A hard copy of the "latest" manual is in the future.

A PDF copy will have to do.

The front is not plastic though and seems solidly housed.

However, the tray still rattles and the power cord's female end is small and does not have the accustomed fit.


Latest corrective firmware for the DVD-A and SACD feature problems is still in the beta according to Oppo. And you're offered a chance to try it out. Some disk "specific problems" were known and not corrected in this or their preceding player.


I wish to note Oppo did a great job of marketing by aggrandizing their loyal followers and building anticipation through an "Early Adoption" program where 350 willing customers were allowed to purchase and assist in beta testing before "public" release.


Oppo keeps their word and doesn't appear to be the Jim Jones of the electronics business but look out for the over the top praise by Oppo fans who are self-described Oppo Kool Aid drinkers. The Kool Aid drinkers have however, done a great job of advising and assisting people in the voluminous "Early Adoption" thread over in AVS Forum. I'd bet you'd find any questions answered there and though Oppo is quick to reply, go to AVS Forum first for help."

Still holding in #5 position, currently #195 in Electronics.


#8 review-5 stars
"I own several DVD UNIVERSAL PLAYERS (DENON DVD-3800 CI & OPPO 980 H) and several blu-rays (DENON BD-1800 & PANASONIC BD-35, so I can give you all a very accurate review of such marvelous product. SACD sound is as good as $1800 DENON 3800 UNIVERSAL DVD PLAYER, that was rated by STEREOPHILE as an outstanding product. Image detail (so good that is hard to believed) and performance is much better than DENON $800 BD-1800. DVD upscaling is as good as many BLU RAY pictures. My question, how OPPO can offer so good price? I'm still asking such question and maybe the answer is that OPPO doesn't have detail distributors (except AMAZON), so the difference to a stereo high-end store, witch double or triple the cost price is let to the consumer. So you can imagine that the real cost for so amazing product is more than $1500/unit.

SACD, DVD-AUDIO, HDCD sound is first rated via DSD and BITSTREAM to my DENON AVR-5308 CI top of the line. I'm also a DENON fan, so I must recommend to all audio/videophiles such DENON AVR to have the perfect match. DENON AVR-5308 CI is also a bargain due to all the features, that sometimes I think it has more storage and random memory than my DELL lap-top. "


Hmmm would the Oppo BDP-83 really command a $1500 price if it was produced by another vendor going through the typical store markup?



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Hmmm would the Oppo BDP-83 really command a $1500 price if it was produced by another vendor going through the typical store markup?

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I really feel that the player is more of a unique design by OPPO. I can't imagine another company releasing such a product.

This player is an awesome machine, but the machine is still just a bag of parts.

The engineering and dedication to consumer needs is what makes it excel.


We've seen what a similar product is like, in the uber bank_roll sucking Denon model. It is my opinion that Denon made that product to cater to "deep pockets", and will attempt to keep those deep pockets close to Denon. It's probably a decent player, no way in hell it's worth $4500 IMO though. Even if I was "RICH", I would buy a fully modded BDP-83 for every room that has a tv before I'd buy the Denon.


No other company would attempt to make a player like the BDP-83. A player that attempts to give their consumers what they want and need. To offer the steller support that OPPO does, and to put the effort into making it the best it can be. OPPO seems to have found a niche... or two or three... combining them all into a universal player that caters to OPPO customers, new and old.

The larger OEMs will pick the largest demographic, and focus on one thing, whatever makes them the most money.


Did you people read the job ad that I posted in that other thread a while ago? OPPO said they wanted someone who was "detail oriented"... I think those were the words used. It seems that everything about OPPO is DETAIL ORIENTED. Only those dedicated to obtaining as close to perfection as possible will make the best products.

Sure OPPO's primary goal is to make money, however I feel they know what they need to do FIRST, and that is to offer great products and service. Not many other companies are like that, and I wouldn't want the same player in another companies hands.


Yes, the BDP-83 would sell for significantly more if produced by another company like Pioneer, O/I, ect..., but it would not be the same player... not by a long shot.



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Hmmm would the Oppo BDP-83 really command a $1500 price if it was produced by another vendor going through the typical store markup?

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I've often wondered what an OPPO player would cost at Best Buy. I've presumed double, but it could be more. Everyone in the supply chain needs a slice of the pie (understandably).


I'm surprised there is any profit margin left when selling through Amazon.


On the other hand OPPO must now handle and ship each player individually, which costs something.


-Bill

I would say extremely well, as the BDP-83 currently is still at #5 for Blu-ray Disc Players, but get this....its currently at #88 in Electronics (best sellers)!