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WeAreNotAlone69, thanks for the info.

Considering I've had my two 1tb babies for a year now is it safe to say that they do not carry the disease? It's 2tb of data I'm not willing to lose but then again I'm not buying 2x1tb drives again.

Are all these doomed to fail or are there some which will go on for ever, if so fingers crossed.

The irony is that I bought a 1tb Samsung Spinpoint F1 just when they came out, I think it was just before the 7200.11 and it was DOA. I replaced it with two 1tb 7200.11s and swore never to buy Samsung again.
 

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Originally Posted by jimwhite /forum/post/15429246


Yeah... that's a good strategy for the 12 1tb drives in my server...

:chuckles:

It's every bit as plausable as an online backup for the same data! Bad enough to rip a br, but then to upload it to a server for safe keeping! Lmao...
 

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...To make things easier they ordered me a bunch of 80GB 7200.11 drives (I think about 150 total)...

Uh... Are you sure? Per Seagate they don't make an 80GB 7200.11.
 

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I have always had GREAT luck with Seagate. Its Maxtor that I had huge problems with.


It is disconcerting that Seagate seems to have dropped the ball, sigh. I hope they have not been "Maxtor'd".

Good thing Seagate bought Maxtor then.

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Question: is there a way to know what the firmware version is without opening up the case and removing the drive to look?

Yes, it's on the sticker on top of the drive.
 

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That being said, my Seagate 7200.11 500GB just crashed 6 months after purchase. BIOS would not recognize it anymore, but disk was spinning normally with no special "bad" sounds. I am a bit embarrased to admit it, but it had some data which I had not backed up, that I needed to recover.


Seagate recovery service seemed to be pretty aware of the problem based on my description, assuring me that data could be recovered (Service Area problems they indicated). It did cost me EUR 1200, but every single file was recovered. Extremely good recovery service by the way, but I would have preferred disk to just not fail that quickly ...

That sounds like an incestuous circle.


1) Makes drives of questionable quality

2) Wait

3) Sell recovery services for drive

4) Profit
 

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I had a Fantom Titanium 500 GB external that died and when I pulled the drive out I found a Seagate NS series. 2 months past the 1 yr warranty and I get the click of death. Great.
 

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I had a Fantom Titanium 500 GB external that died and when I pulled the drive out I found a Seagate NS series. 2 months past the 1 yr warranty and I get the click of death. Great.

Did you buy it with a credit card? If so you likely have an extra 1 year warranty through them.
 

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Good Call. I looked back and I in fact did use a Visa to buy it with. I'm checking with the bank to see if the Visa Debit card carries the same benefit as a real Visa Credit card.
 

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I got two of the 320gig. Still running perfectly.

Count your blessings.



Bank just emailed me back and said our debit cards don't have warranty benefits like a real visa credit card does. I can still use the enclosure though I suppose and buy a WD drive to put in it.
 

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I have 7 of the 1 TB drives in a sever which have been running for 6 months to 1 year without any problems. Some of these drives were even bought from Newegg! All have the SD15 firmware.
 

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Count your blessings.



Bank just emailed me back and said our debit cards don't have warranty benefits like a real visa credit card does. I can still use the enclosure though I suppose and buy a WD drive to put in it.

HHDs are rotating machinery built for a commodity market. They all will fail eventually.


I used to buy WD years ago, and had failures. I switched away from them to other brands. Seagate over the last 5? years, because of the FIVE year warranty. All the brands I've owned (Seagate, Maxtor, WD, IBM's famous "Deathstar"!, have failed.


Back up your data.
 

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Yup... also, it primarily depends what ambient temperature/respective enclosure/case temperature you decide to push your HDD at. Certainly, one can't expect their HHDs (especially ones with several platters) to last several years when their house gets uncomfortably warm during summertime combined with poor ventilation of the PC/HHD enclosure.

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HHDs are rotating machinery built for a commodity market. They all will fail eventually.


I used to buy WD years ago, and had failures. I switched away from them to other brands. Seagate over the last 5? years, because of the FIVE year warranty. All the brands I've owned (Seagate, Maxtor, WD, IBM's famous "Deathstar"!, have failed.


Back up your data.
 

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I had a Fantom Titanium 500 GB external that died and when I pulled the drive out I found a Seagate NS series. 2 months past the 1 yr warranty and I get the click of death. Great.

Since you already pulled the drive you should enter the serial number on the Seagate web site and see if they will warranty the bare drive. NS series normally comes with 5 year warranty. Of course, they may have the serial number flagged for special treatment since it was sold to a external drive integrator.


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Seagate's 7200.11 HDD's ruined me, I am now a HarDrive Paranoid freak. I had 4 failures out of the last 20 drives ive used.


I have used atleast 20 Seagate 500gb & 1TB drives in the past 4-5 months.

Now everytime I click a file on them (or bootUP) I squint, cross my fingers & Pray.

I dont think i'll ever recover from this HDD backup/failure paranoia.


It's sad, I was a Seagate fanboy for the last few years, since MCE2k5 etc.


I had a Maxtor HDD fail about 6 years ago, And now have had 4 failures in 2008.
 

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Guys, there is 17 pages and counting on the Seagate forum related to these issues.

http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board/...thread.id=3283


This CANNOT be fixed by a firmware upgrade (as there is no new firmware for any drive that isn't 1.5tb), that only relates to the 1.5TB drive. The entire 7200.11 line is potentially affected. Right now the common theme seems to be drives made in Thailand and firmware SD15.


1 of 5 Seagate 1TB of mine have succumbed to this. The symptoms are the drive working fine for several months then suddenly one morning you boot up and the drive is not recognized. It sounds fine, no clicking or anything, sounds like its operating normally. But bios won't recognize it.


Seagate is NOT admitting to the problem. Check the thread above. There are dozens of people experiencing this.

Wonderful, first my DG45ID board goes tits up and now the brand new HDD I bought last night is a bomb waiting to go off. The anti-static bag had a sticker "made in thailand" over the flap. Funny thing is this drive was purchased to replace the dead 500GB recert Seagate I got from woot a few months ago.


My drive is ST31000333AS with F/W SD35:

Is this one of the affected drives?
 

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I appreciate all of the discussion going on.... What have I started!!!


I have gleaned a lot of info from AVS over the years and thought I could finally give back.... I was recently burned by trusting Seagate with over 900GBs of pictures, movies, music, and video. I know....no backup?? Just transferred all of the data from my old drives - never had a drive failure til now.


The system builder that I have worked for for over 10yrs has been selling Seagate exclusively for about 7yrs..... We've sold 10s of thousands!! We have only recently been seeing issues popping up relating to the 7200.11 SD15 drives including the 500GB and 1TB. If you don't want to take my advice, and either back up your data or "upgrade" your hard drives, that is your prerogative!


Seagate will not even acknowledge an issue!! fatlip has been very generous with his time to try to find a solution to the problem even though he has bricked his own drive.... The 2 main data recovery companies have just released updates to fix this issue - they see the issue. Why can't Seagate??!!


And.... BTW, we buy cases of hard drives at a time and usually are shipped on pallets with other components. So, shipping problems via Newegg is definitely not the reason for failures.
 

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You can add me to the list. I've had two of the Seagate ST3750330AS 750GB drives fail in the last two days. Both with SD15 firmware. Purchased from New Egg on 6/14/08.
 

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hey Fatlip ,


have u made progress on the hyperterminal fix and where will u be posting? Seagate removed the fallingdown thread and some people have moved to :


msfn "falling down"


hoping u will keep us posted , thanks again
 
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