[kiwi2000]

Hi

I am wondering if I bi amp and bi wire to my speakers what happens if the volume is off in some way. As in the treble too loud or soft in comparison to the bass as a result of the bi amp.


I am considering the Marantz MM8003 for this but it does not have output controls. Is this a concern?

 

[Bruins29]

Well being the most commonly asked question here everyone will be asking you if you are passively bi-amping or actively bi-amping. Bi-wiring is a waste of time i.e. it wont make a difference and you wont notice a thing.

 

[ccotenj]

one could argue (actually, i have

) that passively bi-amping is just as worthless as bi-wiring...

and given the way the post was worded and the questions that were asked, i'm going to guess that the op is referring to passively bi-amping...


didn't this just get discussed, oh, like 15 times in the last week?

 

[sivadselim]



Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi2000 /forum/post/16878424


Hi

I am wondering if I bi amp and bi wire to my speakers what happens if the volume is off in some way. As in the treble too loud or soft in comparison to the bass as a result of the bi amp.


I am considering the Marantz MM8003 for this but it does not have output controls. Is this a concern?

If you passively biamp with identical amps, there is nothing to worry about in this regard.

 

[Bruins29]



Quote:
Originally Posted by ccotenj /forum/post/16878517


one could argue (actually, i have

) that passively bi-amping is just as worthless as bi-wiring...

and given the way the post was worded and the questions that were asked, i'm going to guess that the op is referring to passively bi-amping...


didn't this just get discussed, oh, like 15 times in the last week?

I have no comment

It was in fact just discussed about that many times LOL. I dont know why they just dont sticky this question and a couple of others. Obviously nobody has to answer these querstions but its asked so often its become sort of a right of passage to come in a make a joke about it.


Anyway passive Bi-amping is just as useless as bi-wiring and given the experience, budget and most likely listening habits of the people who ask these questions active bi-amping shouldnt even be a consideration anyway. OK, on to room treatments..


OK, so maybe I do have a comment....

 

[kiwi2000]

I thank sivadselim for the reply.

 

[Bruins29]



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Originally Posted by kiwi2000 /forum/post/16880475


I thank sivadselim for the reply.

So...are you doing it?

 

[arnyk]



Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi2000 /forum/post/16880475


I thank sivadselim for the reply.

Why?


He gave you the most useless and wasteful answer.

 

[ccotenj]



Quote:
Originally Posted by arnyk /forum/post/16889668


Why?


He gave you the most useless and wasteful answer.

because he gave him the answer he wanted to hear?

 

[sivadselim]



Quote:
Originally Posted by arnyk /forum/post/16889668


Why?


He gave you the most useless and wasteful answer.

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Originally Posted by ccotenj /forum/post/16889761


because he gave him the answer he wanted to hear?

Exactly. Why editorialize (aka blow hot air)? He didn't ask for anyone's opinion. Did he, now? Your contribution to the thread was really useful.

 

[arnyk]



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Originally Posted by sivadselim /forum/post/16890061


Exactly. Why editorialize (aka blow hot air)? He didn't ask for anyone's opinion. Did he, now? Your contribution to the thread was really useful.

Anybody who posts on a public forum and claims that he isn't asking anyone's opinion does not get the concept of posting on a public forum.

 

[sivadselim]



Quote:
Originally Posted by arnyk /forum/post/16890630


Anybody who posts on a public forum and claims that he isn't asking anyone's opinion does not get the concept of posting on a public forum.

If he wanted an opinion, he would have asked for it. He didn't. He asked a technical question and, unlike some others, I simply answered it. If you're going to pontificate, go ahead and do that. It's a public forum. But that's not what you've done in this thread so far. All you did was disparage my attempt at providing an answer to exactly what the OP was asking. If I said something that was incorrect, please correct me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi2000 /forum/post/16880475


I thank sivadselim for the reply.

Quote:
Originally Posted by arnyk /forum/post/16889668


Why?


He gave you the most useless and wasteful answer.

 

[arnyk]



Quote:
Originally Posted by sivadselim /forum/post/16891198


If he wanted an opinion, he would have asked for it.

If he didn't want opinions, he'd never have posted on a forum where it is usual and expected that people post their opinions.


What he didn't apparently want is opinons that went counter to his anti-scientific beliefs about audio.

Quote:
He didn't.

Delusions of mind reading noted.

Quote:
He asked a technical question

He got technical answers.


Some of them were technical answers stating that passive biamping is a waste of money and effort.


If you don't like that answer, your only choice is to move to a universe with different laws of physics.


As soon as you started complaining about some of the technical answers, escpecially the most helpful and relevant ones, you started doing the very thing you are complaining about, which is pontificating, obfuscating, and a whole lot else -catings.

 

[sivadselim]



Quote:
Originally Posted by arnyk /forum/post/16892051


As soon as you started complaining about some of the technical answers, escpecially the most helpful and relevant ones, you started doing the very thing you are complaining about, which is pontificating, obfuscating, and a whole lot else -catings.

I didn't complain about anything, Arny. I had one single post in the thread which answered the OP's question as succinctly as possible and addressed no one and nothing else:

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Originally Posted by sivadselim /forum/post/16878645


If you passively biamp with identical amps, there is nothing to worry about in this regard.

I didn't post in the thread again until someone said:

Quote:
Originally Posted by arnyk /forum/post/16889668


Why?


He gave you the most useless and wasteful answer.

Yeah, I can be a jerk, too. And you STILL haven't offered anything useful to the OP. If you want to offer up your opinion on passive biamping then why don't you do that?

 

[A9X-308]



Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi2000 /forum/post/16878424


Hi

I am wondering if I bi amp and bi wire to my speakers what happens if the volume is off in some way. As in the treble too loud or soft in comparison to the bass as a result of the bi amp.


I am considering the Marantz MM8003 for this but it does not have output controls. Is this a concern?

There should be no level difference. Each channel of the MM8003 will have the same gain, so as you'll be paralleling two channels to then drive the (now separated) passive xover in your speakers, it will be functionally identical to using a single amplifier to drive the entire speaker. It can be done with confidence, but I'm also of the opinion that you'll get no benefit from doing so.