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I'm considering building a table tuba. From what I have read on the internet it seems to be one heck of a subwoofer. It also seems that it would perform way better than a sub I was going to buy, the Bic F12. There is only one thing that is bothering me. I googled Table tuba and a thread on audioholics that sayed the table tuba was crap popped up. Is this true? It even said any good 8 inch driver in a sealed box would have the same frequency response. Is this true? Here is the thread in question

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...ad.php?t=18810


Do any of the statements have merit? This seems to be the only bad press of the table tuba's I can find. I was just wondering if this will destroy the Bic F12 like all the reviews seem to indicate. Thanks. By the way this would be my first subwoofer.
 

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The table tuba and table tht are the same thing right? That is what Bill's website leads me to believe. From what I gather there is the THT (or tuba subwoofer), THT LP, Table tht (table tuba), and long tht (long table tuba).
 

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Total rubbish.

Did he build the box correctly? Leaks?

HPF???

1000w


I wouldn't think the BIC F12 would have any significant output below 30hz.

Use the Dayton 10" Classic if you are worried about using the MCM 8".

The only disadvantage I can see is the size.
 

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Originally Posted by iGuitar93 /forum/post/20899726


The table tuba and table tht are the same thing right? That is what Bill's website leads me to believe. From what I gather there is the THT (or tuba subwoofer), THT LP, Table tht (table tuba), and long tht (long table tuba).


Nope. Totally different sub designs
 

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So what is the table tuba then?

You are on the right track.

There are only two designs.

They are listed as.

Table Tuba Stereo/HT Subwoofer (30Hz)

Tuba HT Home Theater Subwoofer (22hz)

Both can be built as a long style.
 

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So what is the table tuba then?

The Table Tuba I am familiar with is a horn loaded sub that uses an 8, and does not enclose the back chamber, unless something has changed. It has been a while since I looked at it. I have not built or measured one.


The THT and THT-LP use 12s or 15s and have proper sealed back chambers. I have listened to and measured a THT.
 

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You are on the right track.

There are only two designs.

They are listed as.

Table Tuba Stereo/HT Subwoofer (30Hz)

Tuba HT Home Theater Subwoofer (22hz)

Both can be built as a long style.

Okay thanks for the clarification. So would the table tuba be better than the f12? I can't build the long style tht because I don't have room but could build the long or regular table tuba.
 

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Okay thanks for the clarification. So would the table tuba be better than the f12? I can't build the long style tht because I don't have room but could build the long or regular table tuba.

Build the Table Tuba then. I think it would have tons more output than the BIC.

If you look at the SPL charts on Bills site HERE , there is one with the THT & Table Tuba both corner loaded.

You can see by that that the THT goes lower but the Table Tuba has more output in the 27-35hz & 60-75hz regions.
 

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THT output will crush the table tuba output. dont confuse frequency response with output.

I don't have room for a tht. But I could do a table tuba. I just want to know if the table tuba will be better than an f12 and by how much.
 

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http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...ad.php?t=18810


Do any of the statements have merit? .

I remember this idiot well. He asked what he needed to run his HT setup in a gymnasium sized room. I told him a minimum of two double-wide Table Tubas, loaded with dual 300 watt HL10c drivers each; this was before THT was introduced. He ignored every bit of advice I gave him and insisted on building one single wide, loaded with one 100 watt eight. Then he toasted it using a 1kW amp. He serves as a shining example of the fact that you really can't fix stupid.
 

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I remember this idiot well. He asked what he needed to run his HT setup in a gymnasium sized room. I told him a minimum of two double-wide Table Tubas, loaded with dual 300 watt HL10c drivers each; this was before THT was introduced. He ignored every bit of advice I gave him and insisted on building one single wide, loaded with one 100 watt eight. Then he toasted it using a 1kW amp. He serves as a shining example of the fact that you really can't fix stupid.

Okay thanks. Is the dayton 240 plate amp good enough?
 

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There's a lack of subwoofer options right now. Soon there will be 18" and 21"? subs from Mach 5. Creative Sound Solutions is bringing their SDX-15 mk2 soon. Eric-h might be bringing a 15 or 18 to the table later in the future.

I guess there's always Dayton, Fi, and Elemental designs.
 
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