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For the 1000th time since those morons took control of the guide data I've again had all my channel numbers get randomly mixed up.

THAT DOES IT: How the hell do I get that program that solves the issue for a few dollars a month and please tell me it's available to Canadians.

BTW, can we not take legal action against the absurd incompetence of this company? I know their "service" is "free", but it's not really free when it makes TV watching a living hell.
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epg123 FTW!
 

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I can't understand why anyone that still uses WMC is also not using EPG123. You never have to deal with outages and the guide data is far superior than the crap you get from Rovi. Pony up the $25 annual fee for Schedules Direct and install EPG123. It will be the best $25 you ever spent on your TV.
 

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I can't understand why anyone that still uses WMC is also not using EPG123. You never have to deal with outages and the guide data is far superior than the crap you get from Rovi. Pony up the $25 annual fee for Schedules Direct and install EPG123. It will be the best $25 you ever spent on your TV.


Meh... Another paid service. What happened to cord cutting being cheaper? I know there have always been advantages to htpcs but any more with all the things I need to subscribe to get full functionality sometimes I think it'd be cheaper just to go back to an STB and cable service.
 
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Meh... Another paid service. What happened to cord cutting being cheaper? I know there have always been advantages to htpcs but any more with all the things I need to subscribe to get full functionality sometimes I think it'd be cheaper just to go back to an STB and cable service.
Well, sometimes free isn't necessarily better. It all depends on what you want to watch and what service provides it. I love my HTPC and the programming I can access with it. I also get Netflix and shows from Amazon (free with my Amazon Prime subscription) using my Shield. I signed a new contract with Verizon FIOS a while back and they gave me free HBO for two years and I'm actually paying less for cable now than I was before. I pay about $80/month for the Fios TV Ultimate HD package plus $10 for two cablecard rentals. Internet and phone plus miscellaneous fees and taxes raise it to about $157. They also bumped up my internet speed at no extra charge. $25 a year for a Schedules Direct subscription isn't going to break anyone's bank and it enhances my HTPC experience without worrying about guide data shortages. EPG123 allows me to completely cut the cord with Microsoft and Rovi and gives me better guide data in the process.
 

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Meh... Another paid service. What happened to cord cutting being cheaper? I know there have always been advantages to htpcs but any more with all the things I need to subscribe to get full functionality sometimes I think it'd be cheaper just to go back to an STB and cable service.
If you think 50 cents a week for Schedules Direct costs too much then you better be sitting down when you open that first cable bill.
 

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Meh... Another paid service. What happened to cord cutting being cheaper? I know there have always been advantages to htpcs but any more with all the things I need to subscribe to get full functionality sometimes I think it'd be cheaper just to go back to an STB and cable service.
Let's add this up.. I have TV's in 7 locations.

When I had Charter Spectrum it was going to be $20 a month for each 4 TV's DVR Fees (GuideService). That's $40 right there PLUS $7 a STB for another $49. Schedules Direct? $2 a month.. plus another $4 a minth for CableCARD rental. That's $89 vs $6 EVERY SINGLE MONTH.

WMC's guide went to crap a few years ago and I'm more than willing to pay for a better guide that I can also use in Emby.

I am now switching to OTA and streaming to pick up some of the favorite cable content but still using SchedulesDirect with Emby and epg123 in WMC because it is superior.

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Seems I ruffled some feathers. Maybe I was going a bit far there. I guess my point was just that everyone wants a sub fee these days and the content is all broken up across many platforms.
Netflix, Hulu, Emby premiere, Plex pass etc.

The hunt for the covers it all solution may never come to fruition.
 

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I've come to realize it may not but am okay with it. I've also come to be okay with paying for "better".

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Of course everyone wants a sub fee... All those cord cutters are a new revenue source with all the money they are saving In cable fees.
 

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I look at it this way. If I can get a better TV experience by paying just a little extra then I'm OK with that. I've been a WMC convert for many years. When Ceton informed me of upcoming release of their InfiniTV4 and were accepting pre-orders I jumped on it literally within seconds after reading the email. I paid over $400 with shipping for a 1st generation cablecard tuner and it was one of the best purchases I ever made for my HTPC. I don't usually jump on new technology and tend to let it simmer for a while to get the bugs out and wait until the price drops. I never hesitated with the InfiniTV4. I have thoroughly enjoyed using WMC and find it to be a competent and reliable DVR app and the only way to record DRM content other than using a Tivo or my provider's DVR. You can get the same programs via streaming services, but I believe you usually have to pay extra to stream them.

On several occasions in the past, Microsoft dropped the ball and almost had everyone run out of guide data. Anyone that uses WMC knows that Microsoft can pull the plug on providing guide data at any time. It says so in the agreement you click on when you set up WMC. At a later date Microsoft decided to switch their guide data provider from Tribune Media to Rovi, which has proven to be a less than satisfactory move for WMC users. This directly resulted in SiliconDust developing their own DVR app so we could get away from Microsoft and Rovi. Unfortunately, the SD DVR app has been plagued with broken promises and a horrible UI that is completely non-intuitive and has avoided the use of a grid-style program guide that everyone on the planet has become used to seeing on any TV device that provides such data. And guess what? If you want guide data when the app is officially released you will have to pay $25 a year for it, same as Schedules Direct.

Say what you want about WMC, but it just plain works. There's a lot of competition out their for your entertainment dollar. You have all kinds of streaming services, satellite providers, cable providers, internet programming, and so on. The term "cord cutting" has always been a bit of a misnomer unless all you want to do is watch OTA TV. The term just implies that you have dropped your cable provider as a source of TV programming and now use other sources for that media. Any other source of TV will require an internet connection so you're still attached to a provider with a cable so, in reality, you've never really cut the cord. You've just changed the way you use the one that's already coming into your house.
 

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I can't understand why anyone that still uses WMC is also not using EPG123. You never have to deal with outages and the guide data is far superior than the crap you get from Rovi. Pony up the $25 annual fee for Schedules Direct and install EPG123. It will be the best $25 you ever spent on your TV.
Is there an app (with EPG123) so that I can schedule recordings when I am out of town?
 
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