Black Rain VC-1 and MPEG-2
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That's what Paramount has been doing on all their releases. VC1 on HD and MPEG2 on BD.
I think it is you that needs to do some research.
Also, go get some therapy to cure that ego problem of yours.
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Originally Posted by abr27440 /forum/post/0
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Do some research, MPEG2 has many shortcomings.
I think it is you that needs to do some research.
Also, go get some therapy to cure that ego problem of yours.
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I think you might want to do some reasearch yourself dude
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Originally Posted by abr27440 /forum/post/0
Yea its debatable, like anything. But the OP is correct![]()
Do some research, MPEG2 has many shortcomings.
I think you might want to do some reasearch yourself dude
-Gary
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I don't want to sound like I'm picking on you, but I seem to remember very early on when both formats were still in their infancy you kept raving about how great VC-1 was and that is was somehow immune to traditional compression issues and every movie looked exactly the way it should thanks to VC-1.
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I think you might want to do some reasearch yourself dude![]()
-Gary
I don't want to sound like I'm picking on you, but I seem to remember very early on when both formats were still in their infancy you kept raving about how great VC-1 was and that is was somehow immune to traditional compression issues and every movie looked exactly the way it should thanks to VC-1.
Do we know what codecs Fox and Disney prefer? We know Warner prefers VC-1. Also, what is the ratio of mpeg-2 to other codecs on the more recently announced titles on BD and that will shed light on what the general consensus on codecs on the BD side are....
Sony gets royalty for mpeg-2 and are offering a sweet deal to encode BD disks for studios. Not sure how many titles they have promised each studio, but looks like they are cutting back on their own output. For instance, Sony has put out fewer movies than either Universal or Warner (AFAIK).
Just examine the evidence and the facts will be there....
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Originally Posted by GamerGuyX /forum/post/0
I think it is you that needs to do some research.
Also, go get some therapy to cure that ego problem of yours.![]()
Do we know what codecs Fox and Disney prefer? We know Warner prefers VC-1. Also, what is the ratio of mpeg-2 to other codecs on the more recently announced titles on BD and that will shed light on what the general consensus on codecs on the BD side are....
Sony gets royalty for mpeg-2 and are offering a sweet deal to encode BD disks for studios. Not sure how many titles they have promised each studio, but looks like they are cutting back on their own output. For instance, Sony has put out fewer movies than either Universal or Warner (AFAIK).
Just examine the evidence and the facts will be there....
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If your blind
If your blind
Most important is source material. VC1 compression on a 30gb disc with equal features will easily win against MPEG-2 on a 25 gb disc. VC1 is at least 2x as efficient as MPEG-2 without the artifacts. MPEG-2 can come close to equaling VC1 with a high bit rate of at least 24+ mbps.
Yeah because we all know how terrible the reputation is for MPEG-2 encoded movies like Kingdom of Heaven on Blu-ray have.
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And your saying I'm blind?
Irony at it's finest.
Hey I'm not the one that started the whole "do some research" bit.
Oh but I'm am the one that had something remotely positive to say about the other format...
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Yeah because we all know how terrible the reputation is for MPEG-2 encoded movies like Kingdom of Heaven on Blu-ray have.
And your saying I'm blind?
Irony at it's finest.
Hey I'm not the one that started the whole "do some research" bit.
Oh but I'm am the one that had something remotely positive to say about the other format...
Black Rain will be released on a BD50 ( http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/blackrain.html ), so space will not be a problem. Aside from the fact that VC-1 is more efficient at a lower bitrate, MPEG-2 and VC-1 both seem to have a distinctive look. If you own both formats, maybe you could rent both versions to see which you prefer.
If anyone is interested in an update of this debate, hidefdigest has now reviewed the MPEG-2 blu-ray version of this movie, and has opined that the video quality matches the VC-1 HD DVD release.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/blackrain.html#Section3
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/blackrain.html#Section3
Why do people keep ignoring the fact that the MPEG2 codec from Sony has a flaw that ignores the first 8 and last 8 bits of black and white color information? Sony claims they will fix it, but even then their players are going to ignore it. This seems relevent and should at least be discussed in a thread like this. I believe VC1 has no such problem, nor do other MPEG2 codecs or the HD-DVD hardware, as far as I know.
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