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Bud's latest theater build can be found here: Chinadog's Tennessee Theater



Well, after about 6 months, countless hours of reading and 300+ posts, I'm finally getting around to starting my construction thread!


First, I wanted to thank all the folks that have responded to my questions and posts. I really appreciate all the advice here. I'm amazed at the depth of knowledge (and patience) that I've found on this forum. You guys have been extremely helpful and I couldn't have done it without your advice. Thanks again!


Second, I wanted to thank my father-in-law for flying down from Connecticut to spend 6 solid days doing electrical work. Thanks Jack! I also wanted to thank my Dad for helping me with the framing. Thanks Pop!


The HT room will be in the basement. As I'm sure I mentioned before, I'm finishing off the whole basement at one time. At least I've started this way, anyway. I have almost 1400 square feet to work with, but am finishing around 1200, including the HT room, concession area, full bathroom, a good sized bar and a game/pool room. I would love to have it all done by the end of the year, but it depends on time and money (doesn't everything?).


The HT room is roughly 19x11.5x9. I'll have an equipment closet just outside the HT room, with a MA Slim5. I plan on a 7.1 system. The concession area is big enough to put in some cabinets, microwave and maybe a counter popcorn machine. On the other side of the equipment closet I'll have enough room for DVD storage.


The equipment decisions are still being researched. I was planning on going the Panasonic AE700, but am concerned about lamp life. I've also considered the InFocus SP5700. Jury is still out on the projector. I'd like to go with the Yamaha RXV2500. I'll have to get a new DVD player to boot, but have not had time to figure out what yet. As far as speakers as concerned, I'm thinking of going with the Ascends for the front and getting in-walls for the surrounds. I'm thinking Jamos based on a friends recommendation, but have not heard them yet. I feel the room is not big enough for columns and I'd like the speakers completely hidden.


I'm going to go with about a 100 inch screen. I plan on two rows of seating (lounger types), the second on a riser. The number of seats will depend on size of the seats. The first row will be around 11 feet from the screen. The second row will be close to the back wall, unfortunately. I purchased my Aura shakers already and an old Kenwood to power them.


As far as room construction and isolation is concerned, I'll be insulating the walls and ceiling and using solid core doors. I don't have any bedrooms on the first floor, so noise containment is not a huge issue. I do plan on using linacoustic, batting and GOM.


At this point, I finished all the framing of walls, closets, bar and soffits. All the plumbing, HVAC and electrical rough-in work is completed. I have run all the HT speaker wire, RG6 and CAT6 (except for the IR CAT6). I still have some speaker wire to run to the bar/game room for audio there. I've just ordered some cables today to run to the projector. I have conduit installed already. I'll be doing all the drywall, mud and trim myself.


I've got some pictures in the link in my signature. I've done quite a bit since then, but need to put new pictures out there. I'll have that done shortly. Things will slow down next week, I'll be on vacation, but will start up again hot and heavy shortly after that.


BTW, the name of our theater came from the name of our road... Blazing Ridge Way in case you were wondering...


Thanks again!


Bud

EDIT on 1-03-2010 (adding self promoting accolades
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Blazing Ridge Cinema and basement featured in Electronic House magazine - DIYer Transforms Entire Basement in both electronic and print versions!


Blazing Ridge Cinema featured on volume VI of Home Theater Revealed DVD series



Finished teaser shot added on March 1, 2008


Over the next few weeks I plan on building an index of this thread since it's grown beyond belief. I'll try and hit where specifically I did things of interest and links to products I used. Might take a while. Hopefully it'll help folks find things more easily.

LAST INDEX EDIT on 03/01/08


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Installation, techniques and tips:


1. Middle Atlantic thermal management info

2. Drywall Lift from ebay

2a. IR Repeater plan - Buffalo IR

3. Rack construction

4. Speaker selection - Ascend 340SE and Sonance S622TRs. Speaker Layout

5. Drywall corners

6. Carlon Adjustable boxes and More Carlon uninstalled boxes

6a. Outdoor movie screen

7. Drywall tools

8. Initial bar design

9. Slanted soffits and light trey

10. Covering the HT windows

11. Linacoustic

12. Riser started and Bullnose wood lip for riser and profile of bullnose trim

13. Riser step light

14. Stage construction

15. 1st projector hang and Chief mount replacement

16. Carada screen

17. Ascend Acoustic 340SEs

18. Stage design and lip for stage

19. Screen wall framing, furring and linacoustic installed

20. Solid Pine doors installed

21. Trim in the gameroom

22. Scrim installed

23. More Furring and GOM prep

24. Beginnings of the Projector box

25. Panels for screen wall

26. Screen wall panel meets wall

27. Color combos

28. Acoustic cotton T pins

29. Soffit and Screen wall - GOM Part I , Part II , Part III , Part IV , Part IV cont

30. GOM Side and rear wall , and more , and more , and still more

31. GOM beveled edges

32. GOM detailed instructions and GOM Lessons Learned

33. Harmony 880 integration

34. Screenwall panel details and more

35. Home Theater stained crown

36. Unfinshed projector box on slides

37. Buds light automation with the X10 - Poor mans Lutron GE

38. Berkline seat options - Ended up with option A - 090s in this config and more options, includes 088s layout and finally curved row options

39. Carpet selection

40. Projector box is GOMed and front cover almost complete.

41. Stained casing for HT doors, base molding and riser lip and stained crown in HT room and concession area

42. Staining tips , Stained door for equipment closet , entrance door and remaining doors

43. Jamb saw rental from HD

44. Dupont laminate flooring in gameroom

45. Begin carpet install and problems with Home Depot

46. Paint in the gameroom

47. Almost finished Dupont laminate floor installed in gameroom and more flooring

48. Bar floor

49. Finished out rack

50. Carpet finished finally

51. Berkline 090s arrived and installed

52. Updated rack and back of rack and what equipment is in the rack

53. Poly or no Poly?

54. Left and right screen panels and Center Panel/Sub panels

55. Final panels done and screen wall shots

56. Approximate estimated and actual costs - at the time

57. Gameroom and bar lighting

58. Ticket window plan and starting window construction . Stained window and ticket window lettering. Plexiglass and speaker hole cover installed . Finished ticket window!

59. First game room decor

60. Under counter bar fridge

61. Bar cabinets arrive and installed cabinets

62. Front of the bar design , wall frame calculator by VorlonFog , Front of bar begins , building with a Kreg jig , unfinished panels done and corbels arrive

63. New Hsu sub arrives

64. Granite being installed and completed

65. Stained bar and corbels installed. A few finished shots of the bar

66. Studor vent for bar

67. Projector box finally complete

68. Poster light box design and construction concept. Beginning of inner box construction , finished inner boxes.

69. Attaching outer box to poster frame. Hung inner poster boxes and posters installed, but no lights yet. Rope lights installed in poster boxes and how to install the rope light.

70. White plexiglass for diffuser arrived and installed. Finished light boxes. Estimate to build boxes.

71. LG LCD installed behind the bar

72. Now Showing DVD case stand

73. Concession sign from eBay and my Photoshop sign

74. Candy rack

75. Sign printed by Kinko

76. Finished frame, finished concession sign.

77. Marquee Sign done in Photoshop and color variations

78. Building the Mylar light box and finished outer mylar box

79. Panoramic shots of theater and concession area using Autostitch

80. Bar stools

81. Bar lighting using rope light

82. Nutone inline fan for projector box

83. Concession area fridge, finished mylar box, light floor rack, and new shiny trash can . Lighting for mylar box

84. Shed framing

85. Gameroom movie posters (not quite level either)

86. Wireless Wii Sensor bar for screen placement

87. Chad's theater room build (The CG Family Theater) that Jason and I helped design and build out.


Products used and where I got stuff:


1. Blazing Ridge Cinema theater intro

2. Porter Cable 3-1/2" Clipped-Head Framing Nailer

3. Drywall lift from ebay - replace the asterisks in the invalid URL with ebay .com

4. Drywall panel carrier from Amazon

5. 150 ft spool of frosted white rope light from Novelty Lights

6. Buffalo Electronics IR Repeater components from Automated Outlet

7. Step lights from Pro Lighting

8. Speaker wire from PE: 12 AWG 2C Carol Architectural Speaker Cable 500 ft. CL3R , RG6: RG-6/U Coaxial Cable 500 ft.

9. Sonance speakers and Sonance Symphony (622s no longer on the site)

10. Excel movie ticket generator

11. Inner and outer drywall corners from Home Depot

12. Carlon single and double gang adjustable electrical boxes from Home Depot

12.a For the single gang boxes in the riser with carpet, I used ReceptXtender electrical box extenders (they care a variety of depths in single and double gang)

13. Hsu Research VTF-MK2 sub

14. Since the Yamaha link no longer works, here is the replacement model, the RX-V2700.

15. Ascend 340SEs (Left and Right channels) and the Ascend 340SE Center channel

16. Doors for HT room and the rest of basement

17. Panasonic DVD-S97 - Audioholics review, purchased directly through Panasonic with a company discount

18. Stain grade case, base and crown molding in the North Atlanta area . Other moldings from Home Depot and a builder neighbor.

19. Linacoustic purchased from a local NB Handy

20. Middle Atlantic Racks and Shelves from Worthington

21. Middle Atlantic Slim 5-43 from BSWUSA.com

22. Carada 104 Inch Diagonal Criterion 1.78 to 1 in Classic Cinema White

23. Panasonic PT-AE900U from Visual Apex

24. First mount was a Peerless PRS-UNV-B: Universal Ceiling Mount- Black and the second mount was a Chief RPA-225 from Bright and Sleek.

25. Magnetic speaker grill guides from Parts Express

26. Middle Atlantic LBP-1A L Shaped Lacing Bars 10 Pcs.

27. Smarthome: 50ft Emitter and IR Sensor Extension Cable

28. Acoustic cotton, scrim from Bryan Pape (bpape) at Sensible Sound Solutions

29. Temperature switch for equipment closet fan and projector box fan from Home Depot, Internet/Catalog# 100098472, Store SKU# 144967

30. Home Depot 5/4" Corner Board SKU - used this for furring/GOM

31. Guilford of Maine (GOM) FR701 2100 in 408 (black) for screen wall and soffits, Style Code:2858 Style:Lido - 2858 (Formerly 2838) Color Name: Pine Valley for the other walls

32. 1" fabricmate track from Fabricmate.com

33. Rosewood wood based stain on doors and trim in HT room - used Pre-conditioner on pine

34. 27 x 40 inch poster frames from FrameUSA.com in 2" corporate wide style

35. 27 x 40 inch movie posters from movieposter.com

36. Professional plastics white plexiglass - (SACR.1252447E) .125 THICK WHT #2447 EXTRUDED ACRYLIC - 40.125 x 27.125 @+/- 0.062

37. Hollywood Post Frames for 11x17 Classic Horror movies

38. Monoprice tilted LCD/Plasma mount

39. Changed out the mount to a Peerless Flat Wall Mount - Model PF660P purchased from Best Price Mounts .

40. Toshiba HD-A2 HD DVD player from Amazon

41. Concession sign "made by Bud" in Photoshop - printed at a local FedEx Kinkos

42. Barstools from Garden Ridge

43. Sony Cybershot DSC-W55 from Amazon

44. Magic Chef under counter fridge (times two) from Home Depot

45. Nutone 4" inline fan for projector box from Unitron

46. Emerson .9 cu. ft. Microwave - Stainless Steel/ Red

47. Wirelss Wii sensor bar from Amazon.

48. Nextronics AC powered Wii Sensor Bar for home theaters

49. Ticket window speaker thingie - Stainless Steel Louvered vent from Boaters World


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The HT room will be in the basement. As I'm sure I mentioned before, I'm finishing off the whole basement at one time. At least I've started this way, anyway. I have almost 2000 square feet to work with, but am finishing around 1400, including the HT room, concession area, full bathroom, a good sized bar and a game/pool room. I would love to have it all done by the end of the year, but it depends on time and money (doesn't everything?).


Bud

Wow, this sounds really familiar. I'm doing the whole basement and sub basement all at once too. And my theater dimentions are pretty spot to yours. (Cubic volume)

15x19x7.5


I'm also doing a bar area, a bath room and theater. The only difference is I'm putting another bed room in instead of a pool area. I'd rather go your route. :p


Strangely enough, my least favorite part so far has been the insulation. It took me about a month and a half to get past it. I got framing, electrical, plumbing, and drywall hung in that much time. ^_^


And the money permitting part, I can totally sympathize with that. Who would've thought something like green glue could cost as much as a good center speaker? :)


Just remember though, don't skimp, just wait and save if you hit a block. Once a room is built, there's not much chance of you tearing it down and doing it again anytime soon. Unless you're like Art S. :)


And oh yeah, where'd you get such nice straight 2x4's? And how'd you get that floor so clean looking? ^_^
 

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Chirpie,


Thanks for the reply. Sounds like we have a race going on. I have a copy of the basement floor plan, I'll have to post that for comparison reasons.


I figured the money I'm saving doing a lot of the work myself gives me the opportunity to put some extra money into the extras. I like that idea. People think I'm nuts for doing drywall myself, but with a friend and a lift, its not hard. I'd spend the case and upgrade equipment or something else.


I got most of my lumber from HD. I have a neighbor who is a builder, I got about 100 2x4s delivered through him, but it wasn't as clean. Free delivery, but no cheaper.


Ah, the floor. Man, I had a lot of junk from the move still (it'll be two years in August), but we managed to have a few tag/garage sales and donated a bunch of stuff. I really try and keep the floor clear. I end up sweeping up after working every time so I'm not tripping on things. To my amazement, the builder painted the basement floor before we moved in. It keeps the dust down and gives it a nice clean look as well.


Good luck on your theater!


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Chirpie,


Thanks for the reply. Sounds like we have a race going on. I have a copy of the basement floor plan, I'll have to post that for comparison reasons.


I figured the money I'm saving doing a lot of the work myself give me the opportunity to put some extra money in the extras. I like that idea. People think I'm nuts for doing drywall myself, but with a friend and a lift, its not hard. I'd spend the case and upgrade equipment or something else.


I got most of my lumber from HD. I have a neighbor who is a builder, I got about 100 2x4s delivered through him, but it wasn't as clean. Free delivery, but no cheaper.


Ah, the floor. Man, I had a lot of junk from the move still (it'll be two years in August), but we managed to have a few tag/garage sales and donated a bunch of stuff. I really try and keep the floor clear. I end up sweeping up after working every time so I'm not tripping on things. To my amazement, the builder painted the basement floor before we moved in. It keeps the dust down and gives it a nice clean look as well.


Good luck on your theater!


Bud

Thanks, you too. I'll be labeled a nut for years to come, but I really don't mind the drywalling all that much. It's the part of construction where you finally feel like real progress is happening as it turns into a (somewhat ^_^) livable space.
 

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Good luck on your project(s). Sounds like you have a good plan and lots of help to get things moving. Just don't get anxios and forget the plan. Before you cover anything, think and then think again what you might need behind something, between something, changing something, etc.


Keep us informed as to your progress. We love pics by the way...
 

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Congrats Guys!!make Sure To Post Alot Of Pictures.


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Congrats Guys!!make Sure To Post Alot Of Pictures.


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Yes! We always like Pics!
 

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Thanks guys. I'll be posting more pictures tomorrow actually. I'll be taking plenty. I took about 500+ when the house was being built. Its already paid off, before I put in one of those in wall iron board closet things for my wife in the laundry room, we were able to look at the pictures to make sure there was nothing in the walls to worry about. I recommend doing this for everyone building a house. It'll pay off later.


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OK, took a few pictures tonight and posted them in the album. Here are a few highlights.


Here's a shot of the top of my equipment closet. I had a few sheets of drywall, so I started there.



Here's a shot of the ceiling with the main cans, the 4 inch stage lights in the soffit and the cove we built for the rope lighting.



Shot of the X10 dimmers to control scenes. These will work with a remote (using an IR543) and a controller mounted by the theater entrance.



View of the bar from the back entrance.



Bar/game room lighting:



Thats it for now. There's a bunch more in the album.


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some advice:


if possible, have some A/C or outstanding airflow present in your equipment closet,,,i have an rx-v2500 and it generates massive amounts of heat..


second...check out etronics

for your yamaha rx-v2500.....i got mine there and thoughtthe price was pretty good.


as for speakers..this setup and price is simply amazing...i got the same system and paid $700 more....unbelievable price, great system..
sound distributors


best of luck! looks like a great setup.
 

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some advice:


if possible, have some A/C or outstanding airflow present in your equipment closet,,,i have an rx-v2500 and it generates massive amounts of heat..

Heartsurgeon,


Thanks for the heads up and the info. I don't plan to put a glass door on the front of the rack and will include both venting panels on the front of the rack and will probably go with a vented door. I'm hoping that will allow enough air flow over the components. Cinemascope posted a great Middle Atlanta document in another ventilation thread. The document is here:

MIddle Atlantic thermal management info


I need to go through it a little more thoroughly, but there are some great points here.


Here's the other thread. I originally planned on tieing the ductwork from the closet to the bathroom duct that leads out of the side of the house, but decided to change that after a few interesting posts!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=546843


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sounds like you've got the heat issue well in hand.


i have a htpc mounted in a rack along with 9 large hard drives, a yamaha rx-v2500 and a buttkicker amp....by far the yamaha produces the most heat, followed by the hard drives...i've ended up with a rather robust fan system to keep the heap cooled off..the challenge of course is to cool the beasties without making alot of noise....


funny how this "hobby" is becoming very similar to owning a sailboat...

pouring lots of money into a black hole....

but once you start, you just can't stop until you've got it beat!
 

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Bud, Clarence was exactly who I was thinking of when I was commenting. All the money and energy is going towards the arrival of our daughter in September, so planning and vicariously following the construction threads is all I got for now.


It looks like you've angled your soffit's side? Is that so that the rope light will give an effect or for accoustical reasons? Looks cool.
 

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heartsurgeon,


I hope I have the heat issue licked. We'll see. I agree, I think I'll be bored stiff once the work is done!


Dave,


Congrats on your daughter. We've got a 4 year old daughter and soon to be a six year old son. Both are waiting patiently for the basement to be complete.


Yes, I angled it. I think it'll look cool when its done. I was going to do just crown molding, but always liked the look of cove lighting, so I decided to take the best of both worlds. My father-in-law and I had fun cutting the corner angles! Basically we used 2x4s to frame it out, with those cripples cut at 60 degrees. We then added 3/4 plywood to finish the other side. I thought about doing a 45 angle, but after one cut, thought it was two steep, so we went to a 60 degree angle. I plan on putting linacoustic under the soffit and covering it with black GOM. The GOM will get pulled up over the angled plywood and stapled inside the cove. I'm not sure if I should cover the plywood with linacoustic or just drywall before GOM, but that's a little ways out. Anyone have any recommendations? I may take the plywood down and round over the corners just so the GOM doesn't snag on the wood.


Here are a couple of closeups. The second is tough because you're looking up from the bottom (and its sort of blurry).




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Hmmm. The pictures I had here before somehow disappeared. They were a little larger (high resolution), did a break some rule or something? Looks like the links were still correct, just no pictures. I put back the original smaller ones. Anyone know?


Bud

If the fotki server doesn't respond before the AVS server generates the page, you'll get the red X's for your inline pictures. But if you right click on the Red X and "Show Picture" it'll usually load.


The small red text markups are hard to read. The yellow is better. Maybe bump up the font size.


I had a lot of fun documenting my HT progress and received a lot of good feedback and constructive tips from you guys as I went along.


Your HT is coming along nicely.
 

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Clarence, thanks.


With the bigger pictures, the font size was ok. You're right, the red needs to go though. There were no red Xs even. The pictures looked as expected last night, but when I check this am, no picture, no X, no links. When I edited the reply this am, the image links were there still.


Here's what I uploaded. Hopefully it'll stay this time.





Bud


EDIT: Clarence, I use Firefox most of the time, which is why I did not see red Xs. I just checked IE and sure enough they're there. The pictures I reference ("Here's what I uploaded....") are not being displayed at the moment in this reply, but they are in the other reply now. No clue whats up with these pictures!
 
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