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I have the Prestige but none of the others IIRC. I'll check it out later.
 

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To add to this thread, my PS3 stopped playing a good 30% of my blurays. Generally they were the older ones. So I went on a witch hunt to find a bluray player that would play all my blurays. Tried a pioneer elite, a samsung, an lg and a panasonic.


I finally ended up with the samsung but sometimes even it has issues. Now, I haven't figured out a 100% fix, but I noticed that my blurays like to be warmer. I know this sounds funny but... for example, if I put Get Smart in my samsung it will play but without any menu's. The popup menus just don't show. I then put it in my PS3 and it spinned for a while and never loaded. I then put it back in my samsung and it worked, menu's and all. The only difference I noticed was the PS3 spinning caused the disc to heat up alot! Now, if a bluray disk isn't working I take it outside and let it get some sun, or i stick it under my shirt and let it warm up (don't laugh! lol).


By warming the disc up it now works (sometimes i still have a couple scenes during the movie that skip, but at least the movie loads). The worst offender was Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. That would never ever load until I put it under my shirt or took it outside.


Not saying this is a fix for all, but it might be worth trying. I keep my house at 72 F so I don't think thats too cold...
 

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^30%? That's a heck of a lot of discs to go bad, no? Even if you only had 10 discs, 3 going bad out of 10 is pretty bad QC.


I've never had a BD or DVD go bad/stop working *knocks on wood*. I mean I've had DVDs with scratches that got pb glitches/skips but never one that just didn't work outright, for no obvious reason.
 

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I've got nearly 700 BDs and have bought and sold several hundred more. If I was having even 1% of those kind of problems I'd stop wasting so much money on the format immediately. In addition to quality, reliability and longevity are the most crucial selling points for packaged media that currently distinguishes it from VOD and similar means of delivery.


Playing Heroes Season 4, disc 2 yesterday, I had the first real problem I've had in awhile. The disc froze and resumed about 15 seconds later in the middle of the 4th episode on the disc, when playing it on a Panasonic BD35 (firmware hasn't been updated in awhile, so there may already be a fix available). The disc was spotless, but I cleaned it anyway and it still lost 15 seconds of the 4th episode on the disc, each time I tried it. I then checked it using my 1st gen 60GB PS3, and it played perfectly. Clearly it's not the disc, but unless it's something related to BD Live (the panasonic isn't connected, unlike the PS3) that's may be affecting the layer change transition or something , I don't know what it is.
 

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I just passed off my two problematic discs as something that is essentially inevitable with a newer optical format. I've had a couple of very early DVDs and CDs suffer a similar fate, but had no issue with more mature pressings. Assuming the world doesn't end in 2012, we will see how the later BDs fare in this regard.
 

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Bumping this thread as I believe that, unfortunately, this may be an ongoing affair. There's another thread re: Fox titles rotting - does it make sense to combine them?


Anyway, I checked the Lionsgate titles Basic Instinct and The Descent, along with WB's Superman and the Fox titles Speed, Master and Commander, and Kingdom of Heaven.


All purchased in 2007-2008 and played on multiple Panasonic Blu-ray players and the 80 gb PS3 from 2007-2008. All stored in ideal conditions and are in immaculate condition.


Basic Instinct does not play. The others are fine. I've sent off an email to Lionsgate via this link requesting a replacement disc. Lets see how that goes...
 

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Just a question that seemed to be an issue with LaserDisc. I am also wondering if this could happen to DVD's? Does it matter how much you watch each disc? I would like keep (and expand) my bluray's with the idea that I'll have them burried with me in my casket
Some blu's I'll have burried with my enemies, LOL
 

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Likely a very few pressing will eventually exhibit "rot" of varying degrees. Most- the vast majority- will not. The procedures used in the manufacture of Blu-ray discs has come a long way since the days when DADC USA and PDO churned out batches of pre-oxidized platters. Most disc that may potentially be affected should show signs within two to three years. As far as watching your discs, by all means do. There is no link between "rot"- caused either by debris or faulty adhesive between layers resulting in oxidization- and spinning the disc.
 

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What percentage of laser discs ended up rotting?
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It is estimated that the average laserdisc collection will experience 1 - 2% rot. My own collection of about 250 discs only has two verifiable cases of rot, one extreme and one mild, and one disc with some suspicious dropouts that I'm keeping my eye on. Some collectors have experienced higher percentages depending on the type of material that they collect and the manufacturing plant that a number of their discs come from.
 

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What percentage of laser discs ended up rotting?

I had over 300 Laserdiscs and did not experience rot on a single one.


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What percentage of laser discs ended up rotting?

A very small percentage. I don't think anyone could come up with an accurate number but it's got be maybe 2 - 3 percent at the worst. There was a pretty significant run of dozens of mostly Sony TrisStar LD titles in the late '90's pressed at one particular plant that had a very high percentage of discs quickly rot and become unplayable within a year or so of manufacture notably Starship Troopers and Contact.


I still have a fairly decent LD collection of about 400 titles, some going back to the formats' beginning including the original Criterion CAV box sets of King Kong and Citizen Kane originally bought with my first player in early '85 to one of the last LD's released, The Matrix in '99 and I think I've lost maybe 2 titles to rot over the years.


I've had a few dvds rot on me too. "Kentucky Fried Movie" comes to mind.


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I have found 3 DVD's in my collection that no longer play. These are all early production DVD's. Supposedly whatever issue was causing the laser rot is now fixed but I am not so sure it really ever was. It will be years before we know for sure.


So far the 3 DVD's I have tried that no longer play are Boogie Nights, The Matrix and The Jackal staring Richard Gere. All known offenders for laser rot. I bet I have a few more early produced disc that no longer work but have not got around to watching them yet. Luckily replacements are dirt cheap.


I would say unfortunately history might repeat itself and I see some Blu Ray's especially early releases will eventually stop working. I have not had any go bad yet but at least a few will likely go bad I am sure. I have recently heard a few HD-DVD's especially from Warner have recently given issues to those that own them. So much for modern pressings being more reliable.


I also have a sizable collection of laserdisc. I don't play them often these days but I know several are rotted. Alien and Aliens and Abyss Special Edition to name a few. It was awful feeling when I found out these disc no longer work but I had replaced most of them on DVD and Blu Ray when I found out so it ended up being more of a chuckle and a comment saying "So much for laserdisc being a timeless format".


I can only guess but I suspect by the time most of my DVD's and Blu Ray's are coasters most films will be available through high quality streaming. I have enjoyed collecting films on various formats over the years but when it takes several minutes to find a particular film I want to watch it gets kind of old after a while. I could free up a lot of space if I no longer need a physical piece of media to enjoy my films. We are already halfway there with services like Netflix but not there just yet. One thing that concerns me about streaming is you no longer have control over the content. So movies in your streaming library could be pulled at anytime and you are SOL. This is a different topic for another day though.
 

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Aside from "The Prestige" Full Moon's second pressing first "Puppet Master" BD all went bad. Some sort of replication issue. Mind you the first pressing were all faulty in a different way- as they lacked the advertised DD 5.1 track.



Threads like these flare my neurotic Jewish tendencies to grossly stereotypical levels. I hope your all happy.
 

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There also is just more space and material to have gone wrong with a Laserdisc than with a CD DVD BD sized one.


With Blu-ray all the data layers is on the tippy top of the disc with the hardcoat on top so its easier to test and less to go wrong over time.
 

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I've never seen a laserdisc go so bad as to be unplayable, except maybe a few early DiscoVision releases which were faultily manufactured to begin with- I have some that have a ton of video noise and audio so noisy you can barely hear it. The rotted Sony USA discs I have show a lot of white sparkles on the screen, but they at least still play without skipping or stopping.


Haven't run into a bad Blu-Ray disc yet, but have gotten more than 20 bad HD-DVDs.
 

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How are your discs stored and the temperature(static or varying) of the room/location in which they are stored?

Where can I get a Blu-Ray Humidor?
 
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