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Thought this might be helpful to those just getting into BD



(UPDATED 5/24/11)

CONFIRMED CURRENT PROBLEM USA BDs
***Releases highlighted in red have problems being ignored by the studio***

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1408

* Severe jaggies persist throughout the film.

! Weinstein has not addressed this as of 1/14/09

3:10 to Yuma

* Significant chroma fringing/errors in transfer, most visible during credits (rainbow colors around edges of text).

! LionsGate does not consider this an issue

Afro Samurai: Resurrection

* Lossless track missing

! Funimaton has a replacement program available

Air Force One

* Original release lacks English subtitles for Russian dialog in areas

! Sony issued a replacement that includes subtitles, but the dialog is incorrect! Only the UK Buena Vista disc has this right.

Apollo 13

* Excessive DNR & EE compared to the HD DVD

! Studio does not consider this an issue. Consider the USA HD DVD.

Battle: Los Angeles

* Contains Cinavia DRM watermark in audible spectrum of lossless soundtrack which may cause a slight loss in fidelity (and hence is not true 'lossless.')

! Sony does not consider this a problem. Weigh how important this issue is to you prior to purchase.

Burlesque

* Contains Cinavia DRM watermark in audible spectrum of lossless soundtrack which may cause a slight loss in fidelity (and hence is not true 'lossless.')

! Sony does not consider this a problem. Weigh how important this issue is to you prior to purchase.

The Cowboys

* Excessive DNR

! Studio does not consider this an issue.

The Crow 2: City of Angels

* Sound is stereo only instead of 5.1

! Echo Bridge does not consider this an issue. Consider the US Buena Vista Collector's Editionj DVD instead.

Dawn of the Dead (1978)

* Excessive DNR

! Studio does not consider this an issue.

Dementia 13 (HD Cinema Classics)

* Excessive DNR

! Studio does not consider this an issue. Consider the Roan DVD instead.

The Descent (MPEG2)

* Significant chroma fringing/errors in transfer, most visible during credits (rainbow colors around edges of text). AUS version is unaffected.

! LionsGate does not consider this an issue. Consider AUS release instead.

Die Hard 2

* DTS-HDMA lossless track incorrectly flagged as DTS-HD lossy, resulting in lossy output or no sound at all on some setups

! Consider the fixed Fox UK release instead. Fox US does not consider this an issue.

District B13 & District B13 Double Feature

* The only District B13 English subtitle option for this foreign movie is closed-captioned for the hearing impaired, resulting in sound effects being written out in the subtitles. This can be irritating for those who are not hearing impaired, an additional standard subtitle track would have been preferable.

! Magnolia does not consider this an issue

Dracula 2000 (USA)

* Version with significantly better A/V quality available from Alliance Canada for the same price.

! Echo Bridge does not consider this an issue.

Enter the Dragon

* Master was incorrectly filtered prior to encoding resulting in severe jaggies; effective disc resolution is 960x1080.

! Warner does not consider this an issue, and states a new master must be struck to fix the problem.

Equilibrium (US, Canada, & UK)

* Aspect ratio is incorrect, should be 2:35:1 and it is 1.78:1. Only the Japanese Sony version of this film is correct in all aspects; the Dutch version gets the OAR right but has some sync issues.

Event Horizon

* Image is vertically stretched at times, resulting in "thin" faces and image distortion.

! Paramount has failed to address this issue as of 1/8/09

From Dusk 'Til Dawn

* Version with significantly better A/V quality available from Alliance Canada for the same price.

! Echo Bridge does not consider this an issue.

The Fugitive

* Master was incorrectly filtered prior to encoding resulting in severe jaggies; effective disc resolution is 960x1080.

! Warner does not consider this an issue, and states a new master must be struck to fix the problem.

The Green Hornet (2D & 3D)

* Contains Cinavia DRM watermark in audible spectrum of lossless soundtrack which may cause a slight loss in fidelity (and hence is not true 'lossless.')

! Sony does not consider this a problem. Weigh how important this issue is to you prior to purchase.

Gulliver's Travels

* Aspect ratio is incorrect, cropped from 1.37:1 to 1.78:1.

! Koch does not consider this an issue.

Halloween

* Color balance during night scenes deviates from the filmmakers intentions

! Anchor Bay/Starz does not consider this an issue.

Halloween H20 (USA)

* Aspect ratio is incorrect, it is 1.78:1 when it should be 2.35:1.

! Echo Bridge does not consider this an issue. Consider the Alliance Canada Halloween Triple Pack which includes H20 in 2.35:1.

Harold and Kumar: Escape From Guantanamo Bay

* There are popping noises at branch points when listening to the fully decoded lossless DTS-MA soundtrack.

! New Line is aware of the issue, but no replacement program has been announced.

Immortal

* Right channel effects and center channel effects are swapped in TrueHD soundtrack.

! First Look Pictures has not announced a replacement program.

Kansas City Confidential (HD Cinema Classics)

* Excessive DNR

! Studio does not consider this an issue. Consider the MGM DVD instead.

The Karate Kid (2010)

* Contains Cinavia DRM watermark in audible spectrum of lossless soundtrack which may cause a slight loss in fidelity (and hence is not true 'lossless.')

! Sony does not consider this a problem. Weigh how important this issue is to you prior to purchase.

King of California

* Jaggies are noticable at times throughout the movie, possibly a low quality upconvert from 720p master.

! First Look Pictures has not addressed this

The Longest Day

* Excessive DNR

! Studio does not consider this an issue.

The Losers

* Contains Cinavia DRM watermark in audible spectrum of lossless soundtrack which may cause a slight loss in fidelity (and hence is not true 'lossless.')

! Warner does not consider this a problem. Weigh how important this issue is to you prior to purchase.

Lost: Season 4

* The first 2 seconds of audio may be cut off when starting playback of an episode

! Disney has not addressed this issue

Matrix Revolutions

* Image breaks up or jumps at 1:45:46

! Warner has a replacement program available

Money for Nothing

* Aspect ratio incorrect: should be 2.35:1 and it is 1.78:1

! Mill Creek does not consider this an issue. Consider the USA DVD instead.

Near Dark

* Excessive DNR

! Studio does not consider this an issue.

The Other Guys

* Contains Cinavia DRM watermark in audible spectrum of lossless soundtrack which may cause a slight loss in fidelity (and hence is not true 'lossless.')

! Sony does not consider this a problem. Weigh how important this issue is to you prior to purchase.

Out of Africa

* Excessive DNR

! Studio does not consider this an issue.

The Night of the Werewolf/Vengeance of the Zombies

* Severe A/V lag during playback. All copies may not be affected.

! BCI does not consider this an issue

Paris, je t'aime

* The only English subtitle option for this foreign movie is closed-captioned for the hearing impaired, resulting in sound effects being written out in the subtitles. This can be irritating for those who are not hearing impaired, an additional standard subtitle track would have been preferable.

! First Look Pictures has failed to address this issue as of 1/8/09. Consider the DVD, which is apparently unaffected.

Patton

* Excessive DNR

! Studio does not consider this an issue.

Pinocchio

* Missing vocals during "give a little whistle" song.

! DIsney has a replacement program available.

Priceless

* The only English subtitle option for this foreign movie is closed-captioned for the hearing impaired, resulting in sound effects being written out in the subtitles. This can be irritating for those who are not hearing impaired, an additional standard subtitle track would have been preferable. Also, there are no english subtitles at all for the french extras included!

! First Look Pictures has failed to address this issue as of 1/19/09

Resident Evil: Afterlife (2D & 3D)

* Contains Cinavia DRM watermark in audible spectrum of lossless soundtrack which may cause a slight loss in fidelity (and hence is not true 'lossless.')

! Sony does not consider this a problem. Weigh how important this issue is to you prior to purchase.

The Roommate

* Contains Cinavia DRM watermark in audible spectrum of lossless soundtrack which may cause a slight loss in fidelity (and hence is not true 'lossless.')

! Sony does not consider this a problem. Weigh how important this issue is to you prior to purchase.

Salt

* Contains Cinavia DRM watermark in audible spectrum of lossless soundtrack which may cause a slight loss in fidelity (and hence is not true 'lossless.')

! Sony does not consider this a problem. Weigh how important this issue is to you prior to purchase.

Scary Movie 1

* Excessive DNR

! Studio does not consider this an issue.

The Social Network

* Contains Cinavia DRM watermark in audible spectrum of lossless soundtrack which may cause a slight loss in fidelity (and hence is not true 'lossless.')

! Sony does not consider this a problem. Weigh how important this issue is to you prior to purchase.

Spartacus (Universal)

* Excessive DNR & EE

! Studio does not consider this an issue. Consider the USA Criterion DVD instead.

Species

* Authoring error where attempting to access the subtitle options via the main menu or the pop-up menu results in freezing of the player controls. This has been confirmed by paidgeek, a Sony insider. The subtitles can still be accessed properly via the subtitle button on the player's remote.

! No replacement program is planned for this

The Stranger (HD Cinema Classics)

* Excessive DNR

! Studio does not consider this an issue. Consider the MGM DVD instead.

Sukiyaki Western Django

* Right channel effects and center channel effects are swapped in TrueHD soundtrack.

! First Look Pictures has not announced a replacement program.

Takers

* Contains Cinavia DRM watermark in audible spectrum of lossless soundtrack which may cause a slight loss in fidelity (and hence is not true 'lossless.')

! Sony does not consider this a problem. Weigh how important this issue is to you prior to purchase.

The Terror (HD Cinema Classics)

* Excessive DNR

! Studio does not consider this an issue.

The Tourist

* Contains Cinavia DRM watermark in audible spectrum of lossless soundtrack which may cause a slight loss in fidelity (and hence is not true 'lossless.')

! Sony does not consider this a problem. Weigh how important this issue is to you prior to purchase.

The Truman Show

* Image is horizontally stretched, resulting in overly "fat" faces and distortion.

! Paramount has failed to address this issue as of 1/8/09. Consider the non-anamorphic out of print DVD instead.

Unbreakable

* PCM soundtrack popping/distortion in rear right surround at 8:30-8:32. Also a popping noise is heard in the center channel at 1:28:21.

! The UK version has a 16bit/48khz 5.1 PCM track that is unaffected by this issue.

! Disney has failed to address this issue

Young Guns

* Master was incorrectly filtered prior to encoding resulting in severe jaggies

! LionsGate has failed to address this issue

The World at War

* Aspect ratio is incorrect, 1.78:1 instead of 1.33:1.

! This is considered a "feature" by the studio. Consider the 2004 A&E DVD set instead.

UNCONFIRMED or EQUIPMENT-SPECIFIC BD GLITCHES

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Cars (US) & Chicago (US)

* PCM soundtrack popping/distortion

! Need more information to determine if this is a disc issue. Apparently UK version of cars remedies issue.

PAST INCIDENTS - You'd be unlikely to find these problem discs in stores today, as they were fixed long ago.

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Baraka (Horrible cardboard eco-pak edition)

* Some copies freeze at 1hr 13mins mark. A batch of the initial run of discs in the poorly-made cardboard case had significant manufacturing issues which some players are more sensitive to than others.

! MPI has a replacement program available


Blade Runner

* Some copies do not have the final cut on Disc 1 as it should be, instead having a repeat of the workprint disc

* Some copies do not have the workprint on Disc 5 as it should be, instead having a repeat of the final cut disc

! Warner has a replacement program available


Chronos

* Some copies had an issue that prevented playback in some cases

! RBFilms has a replacement program available


The Descent (OOP/AVC release only)

* Movie file(s) were located in the wrong directory, making the disc unplayable in some cases. Serious chroma errors are visible in transfer, especially on credits.

! Title was recalled

Dirty Dancing (OOP)

* Master appears to have been incorrectly scaled prior to encoding, resulting in severe jaggies.

! LionsGate does not consider this an issue. Consider the collector's edition instead, which remedies the issues


The Fifth Element (OOP/original release)

* This title does not have any glitches, but it is being included because it has a poor transfer and the manufacturer is offering a free upgrade to the newer version w/ better transfer.

! Sony has a replacement program available.


Full Metal Jacket (OOP/original release only - original cover has white background)

* Master was incorrectly filtered prior to encoding resulting in severe jaggies; effective disc resolution is 960x1080.

! Warner has released a remastered BD with new artwork that is full 1080p resolution.


Gladiator (OOP white label barcode)

* EE/DNR

! Paramount has a replacement program available.


The Incredible Hulk

* In Canada, some early copies of the initial run of this title mistakenly have Ang Lee's earlier "Hulk" film in the case instead of the newer Incredible Hulk film.

! Universal has a replacement program available.


Led Zeppelin: The Song Remains the Same (OOP)

* 7-second TrueHD soundtrack dropout at 1:40:45, confirmed encoding error that affects all players. Lossless HD DVD version and lossy soundtracks on both versions are not affected.

! Warner has done a "silent release" of a corrected Blu-ray Disc. The files on the correctly authored disc are dated March 2008.


Let the Right One In (OOP)

* Subtitle translation is incorrect.

! Magnolia does not consider this an issue and is not issuing replacements; instead, they will release a new version in the future with correct subtitles for purchase. Return your disc if you are dissatisfied with the incorrect subtitle translation.
http://iconsoffright.com/news/2009/0...les_in_to.html


Lethal Weapon 2 (OOP)

* Master was incorrectly filtered prior to encoding resulting in severe jaggies; effective disc resolution is 960x1080.

! Warner does not consider this an issue, and states a new master must be struck to fix the problem. There is a remastered version coming out in 2011.


Lost: Season 3

* On some copies, Disc 5 is a duplicate of Disc 1.

! Disney has a replacement program available.


Pirates of the Carribean: Curse of the Black Pearl

* Framing error

! Disney has a replacement program available


Saving Private Ryan (OOP white barcode)

* Sound sync issues

! Paramount has a replacement program available


Speed

* Some copies had an issue that prevented playback in some cases

! Fox has a replacement program available


Stargate

* Early copies were missing subtitles for a portion of the movie

! LionsGate has corrected the issue with a new pressing


Starship Troopers

* Editing error where a few frames of the movie are repeated, omitting what should actually be seen. Example: Faulty version -- Corrected version .

! Sony has a replacement program available


Terminator 3

* Some copies have the main feature encoded in 1080i when IME is not enabled

! Warner has a replacement program available
 

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Thank you for this great thread!


First an addition:


There's also a batch of Blade Runner BD sets (that, at least, Amazon has) which have essentially the opposite problem. Disc 1 and disc 5, though labeled correctly, both contain the contents which should only be present on disc 5. I just got two copies like this from Amazon last month, so some of them are definitely still out there, coiled to strike.


And now, a question:


Early days for this thread, of course, but might you consider expanding this thread to also include discs which misrepresent their intended content? I'm talking about situations like censored versions, incorrect aspect-ratios or color-timing, missing or replaced music tracks (due to rights-clearance issues, etc.) and non-original film titles. I could see a place in this thread for such discs, but I could imagine they might also comprise a worthy thread of their own.
 

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You should include Harold & Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay. There is a confirmed (FilmMixer) DTS-MA encoding issue. I don't remember exactly what the symptoms are but there is definitely a problem with this title.
 

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Thank you for this great thread!


First an addition:


There's also a batch of Blade Runner BD sets (that, at least, Amazon has) which have essentially the opposite problem. Disc 1 and disc 5, though labeled correctly, both contain the contents which should only be present on disc 5.

Interesting, I was not aware of that. Has that been sorted out, or is it a current problem. Original release only, or the new slimline release too?

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And now, a question:


Early days for this thread, of course, but might you consider expanding this thread to also include discs which misrepresent their intended content? I'm talking about situations like censored versions, incorrect aspect-ratios or color-timing, missing or replaced music tracks (due to rights-clearance issues, etc.) and non-original film titles. I could see a place in this thread for such discs, but I could imagine they might also comprise a worthy thread of their own.

That would be great, though some of those things might be hard to judge. If you have any info like that, go ahead and post it. I know for instance Roy Orbison, Gulliver's Travels', The Truman Show, and Robocop are all presented in the wrong aspect ratio.
 

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Do you have any confirmation that Fox is actually sending replacement For Your Eyes Only discs? I know a couple people received them, but comments from their customer support staff made it sound like you'd still have to wait for a firmware update even with the new disc - i.e. the discs weren't fixed, they just sent a new copy of the same disc the way they did with Die Hard 2.
 

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You should include Harold & Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay. There is a confirmed (FilmMixer) DTS-MA encoding issue. I don't remember exactly what the symptoms are but there is definitely a problem with this title.

Glitch is that there is a soft popping noise at all seamless branching points.
 

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Do you have any confirmation that Fox is actually sending replacement For Your Eyes Only discs? I know a couple people received them, but comments from their customer support staff made it sound like you'd still have to wait for a firmware update even with the new disc - i.e. the discs weren't fixed, they just sent a new copy of the same disc the way they did with Die Hard 2.

I heard the issue was really fixed, yes. Whether those discs are the new pressings though is another story, because as you stated Fox has sent the wrong discs in the past.
 

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Has that been sorted out, or is it a current problem.

Definitely current. As I say, I received two affected copies just a couple of weeks ago.

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Original release only, or the new slimline release too?

The two copies like this that I have seen are both of the new slimline variety, as was the correct set I exchanged them for.
 

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I heard the issue was really fixed, yes. Whether those discs are the new pressings though is another story, because as you stated Fox has sent the wrong discs in the past.

Well I mean sure, firmware updates have been released for most all players so the disc can play back now. But did Fox ever even author a fixed disc? Do you mean you heard that fixed discs are out there somewhere, or just that the movie can be played fine now?
 

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28 Weeks Later BD for its terrible picture quality.


To sd, or to BD? That is the question.


Answer: Buy the one that is less expensive. (Who knows? Maybe the BD will end up in the $5 bin.)


Edit. I meant to say 28 Days Later, instead of 28 Weeks Later. Sorry about that.
 

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28 Weeks Later BD for its terrible picture quality.


To sd, or to BD? That is the question.


Answer: Buy the one that is less expensive. (Who knows? Maybe the BD will end up in the $5 bin.)

That's not a glitch. The source material for that film is literally approximately standard definition - it was filmed with a consumer handheld camera, and not an HD one. You can choose to stick with the SD, that is certainly your prerogative, but no mistakes were made with the disc, and there is nothing that can be "fixed."
 

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That's not a glitch. The source material for that film is literally approximately standard definition - it was filmed with a consumer handheld camera, and not an HD one. You can choose to stick with the SD, that is certainly your prerogative, but no mistakes were made with the disc, and there is nothing that can be "fixed."

I was about to post the same response, but then I noticed s/he was talking about '28 Weeks Later', not '28 Days Later'. Having only ever seen the first one, I wasn't sure if this is also the case with the sequel. Imdb lists several taking formats, SD video among them.
 

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I was about to post the same response, but then I noticed s/he was talking about '28 Weeks Later', not '28 Days Later'. Having only ever seen the first one, I wasn't sure if this is also the case with the sequel. Imdb lists several taking formats, SD video among them.

Oh wow, you're right - I saw the PQ complaints and comparison to SD, and my mind just filled in the "Days" by itself, not noticing he said "Weeks." I wonder if he typed it wrong himself, as I don't remember any big PQ problems with "28 Weeks Later." It's no demo disc, but I thought it was a noticeable upgrade over the DVD. And while portions may be from SD sources, certainly the whole film is not.
 

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I never knew about the problem with Event Horizon, and I just got my copy from Amazon a couple of days ago. Haven't watched it yet, but I wonder how they could have goofed with that kind of issue.
 

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Lost Season 3 Blu-ray disc 5 is incorrectly labeled. Disc 5 is the same as disc 1. You need to call Disney for a replacement.
 

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I never knew about the problem with Event Horizon, and I just got my copy from Amazon a couple of days ago. Haven't watched it yet, but I wonder how they could have goofed with that kind of issue.

I believe it's a problem with the master as the most recent special edition DVD had the same issue.


This is somewhat upsetting as people had already complained about that disc and Paramount went ahead with using the same master anyways. It's not a huge issue for the most part (it's a great looking transfer otherwise - you'd think they could have just corrected it digitally without striking a new master) but it's quite aggravating when Paramount shows such blatant disregard.
 

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I never knew about the problem with Event Horizon, and I just got my copy from Amazon a couple of days ago. Haven't watched it yet, but I wonder how they could have goofed with that kind of issue.

I'd make a statement and return it as defective "due to verticle stretching of the image."
 
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