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Just recently purchased my first Bluray player to match my new 37" LCD I bought for the bedroom. Well I can't begin to tell you how impressed I am with HD, the picture and detail is just at times absolutely breathtaking and I'm definitely hooked. After some much needed research I decided on a Samsung BD-P1500got an open box that was in perfect condition at a terrific price and with full factory warranty.


Well shortly after I got it I found out about these various firmware upgrades, hmm...
well one upgrade won't be so bad but then I found that since these things are constantly evolving and with the piracy issue that you will have to periodically do these upgrades indefinitely!! For this reason I don't think Bluray will really take off like HD TV or like DVD's did. There is a large segment of the population for what ever reason are just not computer literate enough to download the necessary files. And just imagine grandma unzipping a file and then using a iso program to burn it to disk



My 69 year old father loves the movies he's seen on my new Samsung and has a new 50 inch plasma but doesn't have a clue what a flash drive is or how to unzip a file. So for folks like ourselves these downloads and firmware upgrades may not represent a problem for a large segment of the population this could prove disastrous. Whens the last time you put a DVD in your player and got some kind of cryptic error message
That's why I just don't think this thing is going to take off until they resolve the issue of firmware upgrades. Comments? What do you think.


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Spot on. Add in Bd-live questions, picture in picture only working if PCM is selected, and other issues like no resume feature and this thing is a real mess. I am quite literate, but have given up on ever using Bd-live because I'd rather have a quick and reliable machine. I also will not update my firmware unless it's absolutely needed, because it can make other problems appear or even 'brick' my unit. Beyond the price issue, Blu-ray will only take off if it stops evolving. People like stability. If more firmware updates are required (I suspect it won't be that way as I've never updated mine in a year's time) then blu will go extinct.
 

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Well, if you live in the stone age, or cannot afford internet, then I guess this is a decent prognosis. But, if you do have internet, then there is nothing you have to do, other than turn the player on, and it'll prompt you for an update.


The biggest problem with people, is that they are just plain lazy. My buddies who work at retail CE stores tell me all the time of people who return things after they spend a couple thousand bucks because they are either too cheap to pay someone to connect their tv, or just too PLAIN LAZY TO RTFM.
 

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agree. For me, the only way I will now get a BD player is

1) BD live dies a quick death.

2) Profile 2.0 becomes stable and NO firmware upgrades are needed. period

3) I earn a whole bunch of extra money so my discretionary income is so insanely large that I wouldn't even feel buying one (or more) BD players just to see 'what all the fuss is about."

4) I win one in a contest or through some reward program.


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I don't think it's that people are lazy my father is an retired high school principal and he's definitely not lazy! He doesn't have a computer or an Internet connection. When you make people jump though these kind pf hoops you're just not going to capture a large enough segment of the population to make this thing viable, Hell my sister is a MD and I bet you she doesn't know how to unzip a file and burn it to CD using an ISO program! Not that she couldn't learn but most people just don't want that kind of drama in their lives just to watch a movie.



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Blu ray IS ready for prime time, and has been doing quite well. Unfortunately, technology changes, and these players need occasional firmware updates. It is no different than most other new devices on the market like cell phones, computers and game consoles. This has become standard. Unfortunately some will be left behind if they don't learn about new technology. My mom still orders from catalogs because she refuses to use a computer. However, if you want the best in picture quality, and sound, you will go Blu ray, period.

Also, if you Father can dial a phone, he can get the firmware updates on a disc. Just call support.



Secondly, do we really need another post about this?
 

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I don't think it's that people are lazy my father is an retired high school principal and he's definitely not lazy! He doesn't have a computer or an Internet connection. When you make people jump though these kind pf hoops you're just not going to capture a large enough segment of the population to make this thing viable, Hell my sister is a MD and I bet you she doesn't know how to unzip a file and burn it to CD using an ISO program! Not that she couldn't learn but most people just don't want that kind of drama in their lives just to watch a movie.



Tom j.

how true.

people (JSP/OCCUPANT/JOHN Q PUBLIC) get off work, get home, they're tired, wanna relax, watch a movie or concert; not screw around with updating, bricking, not loading, not playing, error messages, etc and all the other b.s.


get rid of that b.s. and blu might have a chance.
 

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Originally Posted by Rhythmx /forum/post/16991294


Blu ray IS ready for prime time, and has been doing quite well. Unfortunately, technology changes, and these players need occasional firmware updates. It is no different than most other new devices on the market like cell phones, computers and game consoles. This has become standard. Unfortunately some will be left behind if they don't learn about new technology. My mom still orders from catalogs because she refuses to use a computer. However, if you want the best in picture quality, and sound, you will go Blu ray, period.

Also, if you Father can dial a phone, he can get the firmware updates on a disc. Just call support.



Secondly, do we really need another post about this?

So the "standard" is to expect "no standard" and instead rely on a flurry of updates that may or may not happen



There are plenty of people here who paid high dollar for Bluray players, from manufacturers that are leaving them behind.


Just call and get a FW update
 

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how true.

people (JSP/OCCUPANT/JOHN Q PUBLIC) get off work, get home, they're tired, wanna relax, watch a movie or concert; not screw around with updating, bricking, not loading, not playing, error messages, etc and all the other b.s.


get rid of that b.s. and blu might have a chance.

Just like a turntable, you pay for the equipment, you pay for the media, and it just works.....how novel
 

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Oh god, not the grandma example, please. Last time I saw granny you were saying she could never install Linux, and now she is rocking Ubuntu on her netbook at Starbucks. Don't underestimate granny, if firmware upgrades are too tough she can call her grandson over and he can figure it out, then she'll give you a nice slice of pie for your effort.
 

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Oh god, not the grandma example, please. Last time I saw granny you were saying she could never install Linux, and now she is rocking Ubuntu on her netbook at Starbucks. Don't underestimate granny, if firmware upgrades are too tough she can call her grandson over and he can figure it out, then she'll give you a nice slice of pie for your effort.

and then a month later it will be srewed up because it's a new Bluray release
 

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Blu ray IS ready for prime time, and has been doing quite well. Unfortunately, technology changes, and these players need occasional firmware updates. It is no different than most other new devices on the market like cell phones, computers and game consoles. This has become standard. Unfortunately some will be left behind if they don't learn about new technology. My mom still orders from catalogs because she refuses to use a computer. However, if you want the best in picture quality, and sound, you will go Blu ray, period.

Also, if you Father can dial a phone, he can get the firmware updates on a disc. Just call support.



Secondly, do we really need another post about this?

Had a friend that did just that he's still waiting 4 weeks latter and still hasn't received the upgrade disk TRUE STORY. I agree the picture is incredible but most people think of these things as DVD's on steroids whens the last time you had to do a firmware upgrade on your DVD player.



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