From what I read in another thread they say the VR12 center will go well with the VR2 towers. Trouble is that the VR12 is discontinued and I'd have to get it from eBay or Audiogon.
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Boston VRC center channel
I've been considering the Boston Acoustics VR2 tower speakers. But the matching center channel is the VRC, which seems anemic on paper with its 4.5 inch woofers.
What is your experience with this center, if you have auditioned it or own it? Is it that bad? Or what about the VRB bookshelf turned on its side and used as a center?
(Yes, I know the ultimate answer is to listen for myself. But I cannot listen to 100 brands, so I just want an idea of whether it will be worth putting onto the short list of speakers that I will actually audition. If there isn't a good and affordable center that goes well with the VR2, I won't put it on the list.)
What is your experience with this center, if you have auditioned it or own it? Is it that bad? Or what about the VRB bookshelf turned on its side and used as a center?
(Yes, I know the ultimate answer is to listen for myself. But I cannot listen to 100 brands, so I just want an idea of whether it will be worth putting onto the short list of speakers that I will actually audition. If there isn't a good and affordable center that goes well with the VR2, I won't put it on the list.)
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You should search for the Boston Acoustics Owners Thread-- this topic has been addressed multiple times.
The short answer is that many people agree the VRC is limited, and go to ebay to find VR-10, VR-12s etc.... but they are hard to come by.
I own the VRC. I bought it because it has the exact same tweeter and 4.5inch mid-range as my fronts (BA VR965s), and side/rears (Bravo IIs.) In my set-up, the fronts each have an integrated powered subwoofer, so I have more than enough bass in the system. I also needed something lower profile as I didn't want to have or have a spot for a big 14inch high box in my HT set-up.
That said, minus the bass issues, the VRC is a good speaker. If you have sufficient bass solution (ex. good subwoofers, or perhaps VR3s as mains) I think you will be happy with the system.
Personally, I listen mostly to music and find any center ruins the imaging of the mains, so I listen in stereo mostly.
Hope that helps.
The short answer is that many people agree the VRC is limited, and go to ebay to find VR-10, VR-12s etc.... but they are hard to come by.
I own the VRC. I bought it because it has the exact same tweeter and 4.5inch mid-range as my fronts (BA VR965s), and side/rears (Bravo IIs.) In my set-up, the fronts each have an integrated powered subwoofer, so I have more than enough bass in the system. I also needed something lower profile as I didn't want to have or have a spot for a big 14inch high box in my HT set-up.
That said, minus the bass issues, the VRC is a good speaker. If you have sufficient bass solution (ex. good subwoofers, or perhaps VR3s as mains) I think you will be happy with the system.
Personally, I listen mostly to music and find any center ruins the imaging of the mains, so I listen in stereo mostly.
Hope that helps.
Yes, I found that thread and read some of it. With the big HDTV I purchased a few months ago, I find that I am tending towards more movies and less music, so a decent center channel is important to me. I want something that will be competent in bass down to 80Hz where the subwoofer can pick up. For music I'll just send everything to the two fronts and not bother with the center.
The VR12 is too big to place it, so I have my eye on eBay for the VR10 and VR920.
The VR12 is too big to place it, so I have my eye on eBay for the VR10 and VR920.
The VR12 is available NOW on e bay.
The VR920 is big in it's own right, just lower in height is all.
The VRC DOESN'T even compare in SOUND quality to the VR12 or the VR920.
Thats a fact, IDGAS what the specs say, I've heard them all side by side, and in comparison, the VRC is a joke, and I GUARANTEE I am NOT alone in this thinking.
No offence VRC owners, the VR12 and 920 are just superior, thats all.
The VR920 is big in it's own right, just lower in height is all.
The VRC DOESN'T even compare in SOUND quality to the VR12 or the VR920.
Thats a fact, IDGAS what the specs say, I've heard them all side by side, and in comparison, the VRC is a joke, and I GUARANTEE I am NOT alone in this thinking.
No offence VRC owners, the VR12 and 920 are just superior, thats all.
The VR920 has a low enough profile that it can fit on the shelf below the TV. Width is not a problem because the stand is 40-something inches wide. But I'd put neither the VR12 nor VR920 on top of the TV. Too bulky.
What's your opinion of the VR10? It's also on eBay now. Is it close to the VR12?
I'll buy the center as soon as I can grab a good deal on eBay. Then I'll check a local dealer for the VR2 fronts, or possibly see if I can get a deal on eBay. Then I'll order another set of speakers (probably the Ascends) and A/B them. If the Ascends lose, they go back. If the Bostons lose, I'll sell them on eBay.
What's your opinion of the VR10? It's also on eBay now. Is it close to the VR12?
I'll buy the center as soon as I can grab a good deal on eBay. Then I'll check a local dealer for the VR2 fronts, or possibly see if I can get a deal on eBay. Then I'll order another set of speakers (probably the Ascends) and A/B them. If the Ascends lose, they go back. If the Bostons lose, I'll sell them on eBay.
I don't remember if they even had the VR10 there when I was doing all the comparisons, but I DO remember the 12 and 920 in comparison to all the other models they had, and IMO, there was NO comparison.
IF the VR10 was there, it wasn't even close to the 12 and 920, as those 2 stole the show for me.
Problem was, I didn't have an extra 200 to buy either 1 of them at that time, IF I did, I WOULD have purchased the VR12, with the 920 in close 2nd.
IF the VR10 was there, it wasn't even close to the 12 and 920, as those 2 stole the show for me.
Problem was, I didn't have an extra 200 to buy either 1 of them at that time, IF I did, I WOULD have purchased the VR12, with the 920 in close 2nd.
Damn, that VR12 on eBay is now more than $300, with over 2 days left in the auction!
Somebody at Boston Acoustics made a really stupid decision to stop making that speaker, without replacing it with something at least equally capable.
Somebody at Boston Acoustics made a really stupid decision to stop making that speaker, without replacing it with something at least equally capable.
How high is the screen of your display from the ground? I have VR3s as mains and am using a single VR1 tower as my center, vertically orietated. That's a better solution than any horizontal center channel if you can manage it.
Center channel is mainly for movie dialogue. Of course, if you are talking about listening to music, Center is much less important. In short, VRC is pathetic.
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That said, minus the bass issues, the VRC is a good speaker. If you have sufficient bass solution (ex. good subwoofers, or perhaps VR3s as mains) I think you will be happy with the system.
Personally, I listen mostly to music and find any center ruins the imaging of the mains, so I listen in stereo mostly.
Hope that helps.
Center channel is mainly for movie dialogue. Of course, if you are talking about listening to music, Center is much less important. In short, VRC is pathetic.
The TV is on a 25-inch tall stand, with two shelves for components below (but not enough vertical space for a VR12). But I don't want a speaker in front of the stand. It has to be on top of the TV or on the shelf below the TV.
I agree 100%
Thats why I left Boston right there, I was sick and tired of trying to win auctions for USED items.
The VR12 is a great center though.
I'm kinda glad though, the speakers I have now sound mint, and I have absolutely no issues.
Good luck finding a VR920, it'll probably be tough, unless you get lucky.
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Damn, that VR12 on eBay is now more than $300, with over 2 days left in the auction!
Somebody at Boston Acoustics made a really stupid decision to stop making that speaker, without replacing it with something at least equally capable.
I agree 100%
Thats why I left Boston right there, I was sick and tired of trying to win auctions for USED items.
The VR12 is a great center though.
I'm kinda glad though, the speakers I have now sound mint, and I have absolutely no issues.
Good luck finding a VR920, it'll probably be tough, unless you get lucky.
This is nucking futs. The VR12 went up to $460!
Looks like two nutsos are in a bidding frenzy and lost their sanity. The bid history shows the same two bidders bidding multiple times, which as you know is unnecessary in an eBay auction. At this point they must simply want to win for winnings sake so they keep outbidding each other without regard for the price.
BTW, I won a pair of VR2's in another auction. Which is kind of nuts in its own way because I've never heard the VR2's. But at the price I got them, I can listen to them in my own home for weeks and resell them on eBay for little or no loss if I don't like them.
If I keep the VR2's I'll probably end up getting a VRB and turning it on its side for use as a center.
Looks like two nutsos are in a bidding frenzy and lost their sanity. The bid history shows the same two bidders bidding multiple times, which as you know is unnecessary in an eBay auction. At this point they must simply want to win for winnings sake so they keep outbidding each other without regard for the price.
BTW, I won a pair of VR2's in another auction. Which is kind of nuts in its own way because I've never heard the VR2's. But at the price I got them, I can listen to them in my own home for weeks and resell them on eBay for little or no loss if I don't like them.
If I keep the VR2's I'll probably end up getting a VRB and turning it on its side for use as a center.
VR12 auction ended at $660. Unbelievable!
The thing is over 5 years old and selling for much more than what it sold for when new.
And the VR2 itself is less than $500 each, brand new MSRP.
And the VR2 itself is less than $500 each, brand new MSRP.
Sure, but VR2s are easily acquired, they are still in production. There are only a limited number of VR12s out there. High demand, low supply = increased prices.
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