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Brothers Grimm

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Just got done watching the DVD; first time I have seen this movie.


First of all, let me say the video was as good as it gets. The resolution was stunning. (Onkyo sp1000 upconverting 720p to Sammie Kirk hlp5685w). I am accustomed to excellent video with my setup, but this was special. Even the wife was impressed...and she is half-blind. Truly reference...BTW, the audio was great as well.


Plot-wise, similar to other Terry Gilliam movies...it can't make up its mind what kind of movie it wants to be. Is it a fantasy or action or comedy or horror or all-of-the-above kind of movie? Nearly all of his movies are like this (or so it seems to me). Some people love this and some hate it; you have to decide for yourself.


However, I will say the cinematography is absolutely terrific...Gilliam uses a very wide lense to great effect. The visuals are eye-poppers...spectacular sets and FX...worth a 2nd viewing. :)
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Rented tonight...watch it soon. I'm looking forward. Sort of a Gilliam fan with the proper motivation. Heard bad things, but I'll make my own mind up.
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This is truely a awful movie! I fall to sleep a few times and seriously want to turn it off. It feels like a nightmare version of a Tim Burton movie!


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Hmmmm. The first line of the video section in the first review I pull up: "The Brothers Grimm comes to DVD in a nice 1.85.1 anamorphic widescreen transfer that unfortunately exhibits some heavy edge enhancement and mild aliasing throughout the duration of the film." The next review: "The film’s theatrical aspect ratio of 1.85:1 is presented in anamorphic video. The transfer is slightly soft and marred by modest edge halos." Not a good sign on the PQ front.


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I rented this from netflix and it should arrive today Im a huge Gilliam fan so Im giving this a chance despite the terrible reviews. My favorite film of all time is Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Brazil has to be in my top 10.
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I'm renting this one as well. I appreciate Gilliam movies, so I want to see this. However, I would not have given it a thought were it not for Gilliam's direction. (Well, maybe to see Monica Bellucci...)


"Brazil" is truly special, and "Twelve Monkeys" is amazing. "Time Bandits" and "Munchausen" are scattered, but interesting.
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This movie won't go down in the pantheon of great Gilliam efforts, but given how much drivel is out there, if you are a Gilliam fan, you will find something to like in this movie. There are much worse things to watch. I guess that's damning it with faint praise, but that's all I have!
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It's not very good. It's disjointed and not overall very exciting. The leads did ok with the little material they had to work with here.


The PQ was most definitely NOT reference. In fact I'd say "average" at best.
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Not great Video? Better upgrade your equipment or ISF it...EE and aliasing? Not even.


Anyways, Fear and Loathing is my favorite TG movie as well. The rest do feel scattered...as though TG can't make up his mind about what he wants to say. It is an acquired taste to be sure. ;)
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This movie won't go down in the pantheon of great Gilliam efforts, but given how much drivel is out there, if you are a Gilliam fan, you will find something to like in this movie. There are much worse things to watch. I guess that's damning it with faint praise, but that's all I have!
I have to disagree. As a major Terry Gillium fan, I saw this in the theaters on opening day. It was weaker than weak and had me wondering what the heck went wrong and what Gillium's vision might have been when he started the project.


My only thought is that given Gillium's reputation for going over budget, some of the investors must have interceded and shut things down prematurely. I really don't believe TG could make a movie this bad if left to his own devices. Given how sparse his output has become, it's a real shame.
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I have to disagree. As a major Terry Gillium fan, I saw this in the theaters on opening day. It was weaker than weak and had me wondering what the heck went wrong and what Gillium's vision might have been when he started the project.


My only thought is that given Gillium's reputation for going over budget, some of the investors must have interceded and shut things down prematurely. I really don't believe TG could make a movie this bad if left to his own devices. Given how sparse his output has become, it's a real shame.
I am not a major Terry Gilliam fan and have not been able to get through any of his movies since the Monty Python films. I am going to give Brazil, The Adventures of Baron, Fear and Loathing, and even this film a chance. I think I will start with Brazil since I expect it to be excellent. For my money, David Lynch and Tim Burton are far better offbeat film makers. Mr. Gilliam isn't a director I would trust with $100,000,000 of my money unless my goal was a small cult film following and good resale value for used limited edition Criterion DVDs.


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I am not a major Terry Gilliam fan and have not been able to get through any of his movies since the Monty Python films. I am going to give Brazil, The Adventures of Baron, Fear and Loathing, and even this film a chance. I think I will start with Brazil since I expect it to be excellent. For my money, David Lynch and Tim Burton are far better offbeat film makers. Mr. Gilliam isn't a director I would trust with $100,000,000 of my money unless my goal was a small cult film following and good resale value for used limited edition Criterion DVDs.


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Don't leave out "The Fisher King", one of his best in my opinion. I also really like Time Bandits. IMO, both are much better than Fear and Loathing, and while I love Brazil, it may not be the most accessible at first.


Also, if you are interested in the behind-the-scenes aspects of movie making, rent "Lost in La Mancha", which is an interesting documentary about the failed attempt to make "Man of La Mancha", starring Johnny Depp.
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"Brazil" is definitely polarizing. I have a friend who is a movie buff, and "Brazil" is the only film he's ever walked out of in the theater. I, on the other hand, think "Brazil" is brilliant and one of the best movies of the past quarter century. Perhaps that means I am brain damaged, or perhaps my friend was in the wrong frame of mind when he saw "Brazil."
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I love Brazil, but I can see how people would have a tough time watching it. Time Bandits is a pet fave of mine and FALILV is good as well, but it may be because it brings back memories of reading the book. I didn't know The Fisher King was a TG movie. It's been a while since I saw it, but I remember liking it. For now, I think I'm going to pass the The Brothers Grimm.


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Not great Video? Better upgrade your equipment or ISF it...EE and aliasing? Not even.
Kindly send an email to Dan Ramer at DVD File and let him know then. I agree with him.
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Mr. Gilliam isn't a director I would trust with $100,000,000 of my money unless my goal was a small cult film following and good resale value for used limited edition Criterion DVDs.


LOL..neither would I trust him... :D
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Watched last night, and I think the best word for the picture quality, is that it was a Mess. Some scenes, or even parts of scenes looked very good, while in the same scene there were hazy noisy blacks, with wierd mottling effects. EE was there, giving a harsh look to some scenes. The PQ was all over the map, with some colors being extremely vibrant, and parts having almost a 3D look to them, while other parts were washed out hazy or muddy looking. Overall, I would give PQ a 3, maybe 3.5. Sound was great though.
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"Brazil" is definitely polarizing. I have a friend who is a movie buff, and "Brazil" is the only film he's ever walked out of in the theater.


I did the SAME thing...with 12 Monkeys as well.


I am not endorsing TG movies as a whole...far from it. For me, most of his work is unwatchable...and yes, I have tried. The only other of his movies that gets a "Thumbs Up" from me is Fear and Loathing, although neither is a great movie. Generally speaking, he is not a very good storyteller IMO. But his visuals are fascinating. ;)
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Kindly send an email to Dan Ramer at DVD File and let him know then. I agree with him.
Dan Ramer's equipment: NEC Data-Grade PG-6000 (6PG) Projector & Stewart Studiotek 130 16x9 (8' x 4.5') Screen. Now granted it is a 15 year old piece that may attain 540P on its best day, you can buy this reference piece as a fellow AVS member is selling his for $500 bucks! http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=549790
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Dan Ramer's equipment: NEC Data-Grade PG-6000 (6PG) Projector & Stewart Studiotek 130 16x9 (8' x 4.5') Screen. Now granted it is a 15 year old piece that may attain 540P on its best day, you can buy this reference piece as a fellow AVS member is selling his for $500 bucks! http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=549790
LOL :D



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