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I'm getting close to pulling the trigger on a 55 to 65" led tv. Starting to like the Vizio M Series, but the jury is still out.

I'm leaning towards 55", but the wife actually is suggesting a larger screen.


Anyhow, to make a long story short, looking around at Sears I stumbled across this model: Seiki SE65JY25.


I realize that these low end models always start to creep in around Black Friday, and adding the fact that there zero reviews means this puppy isn't shipping yet, so the big retailers are probably starting to drop "breadcrumbs" for Search Engine Optimization. There are specs, and some retailers are listing some prices that rival what you'd pay for something like an Insignia 65" 120hz model . I am showing prices and specs come up on Amazon, and Tigerdirect, as well.


You may ask why i'd bother starting a thread? We'll i've been living with a Black Friday special 40" Apex that i've had in my bedroom since 2009, and have been ok with it.


My curiosity is piqued with this model, as it's huge, specs at 240hz (probably applied loosely here), i'm sure many here could live without 3d, and may not need smart features that you can provide through an external streaming box.


Here's a rundown of what i've found, if anyone stumbles across a real review or sees one in the real world, feel free to PM me.


Specifications & Dimensions

Product Overview:

3D Ready:No

General Warranty:1 year parts and labor

Image Brightness:250 cd/m2

3500-5000:1 dynamic contrast ratio

176 degrees (H) x 176 degrees (V) viewing angle

6 ms response time

Monitor Type:LED

Resolution:1080p

Screen Refresh Rate:240Hz

Sound Type:Stereo

Tuner Type:ATSC/NTSC (digital/analog)

Color:

Color:Black

Included with Item:

3D Glasses Included:None

Accessories Included:Remote Control, Battery, User Manual, Quick Start Guide

Stand Included:Yes

Additional Features:

Smart TV:No

Smart TV Control Type:Not a Smart TV

Streaming Content:None

Display, Resolution:

Maximum Resolution:1920 x 1080

Native Resolution:1920 x 1080

Connections:

Audio Inputs, Total Number:1

Audio Outputs, Fixed, Number:1

Audio Outputs, Variable, Number:None

Composite Video Inputs, Number:1

Composite Video Outputs, Number:None

Digital Audio Input Type:None

Digital Audio Output Type:Coaxial

Number of HDMI Inputs:3

PC Input:Yes

S-Video Inputs, Number:None

USB Inputs, Number:1

USB Port Type:Service

Internet Connectivity:

Internet Connectable:No

Certifications:

ENERGY STAR Compliant:No

Dimensions and Weight:

Depth with Stand:12 to 13-7/8 in.

Depth with Stand (in.):13.80

Depth without Stand:3 to 3-7/8 in.

Depth without Stand (in.):3.30

Height with Stand:30 or more in.

Height with Stand (in.):34.50

Height without Stand:30 or more in.

Height without Stand (in.):34.50

Item Weight (lbs.):99

Screen Size:60 or more in.

Screen Size (by diagonal measure):64.5

Width:50 or more in.

Width (in.):58.70

General Information:

Display Menu Language - Display:English, French, Spanish

Product Type - General:LED-backlit LCD TV

Depth - General:13.8 in

Height - General:34.5 in

PC Interface - General:VGA (HD-15)

Width - General:58.7 in

Weight - General:76.9 lbs

Image Aspect Ratio - Display:16:9

Weight (Shipping) - Dimensions & Weight (Shipping):99 lbs

Stand Design - Stands & Mounts:Tabletop

Height (Shipping) - Dimensions & Weight (Shipping):45.9 in

Video Interface - General:Component, composite, HDMI

Width (Shipping) - Dimensions & Weight (Shipping):66.3 in

LCD Backlight Technology - Display:LED backlight - direct-lit LED

Connector Type - Connections:1 x composite video input ( RCA phono ) ¦ 1 x VGA input ( 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15) ) ¦ 1 x component video input ( RCA phono x 3 ) ¦ 3 x HDMI input ( 19 pin HDMI Type A ) ¦ 1 x digital audio output (coaxial) ( RCA phono )

Depth (Shipping) - Dimensions & Weight (Shipping):9.8 in

Dimensions & Weight Details - Dimensions & Weight Details:panel without stand - 58.7 in x 3.3 in x 34.5 in x 69.9 lbs ¦ Panel with stand - 58.7 in x 13.8 in x 34.5 in x 76.9 lbs

Dimensions - General:With stand

Supported Computer Resolutions - Video Features:1024 x 768 (XGA), 640 x 480 (VGA), 800 x 600 (SVGA), 1360 x 768, 1920 x 1080

Diagonal Size (cm) - General:165 cm ( 163.8 cm viewable )

Diagonal Size - General:65" Class ( 64.5" viewable )

Input Video Formats - Video Features:480p, 720p, 480i, 576i, 576p, 1080/50i, 1080/50p
 

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How much is this this and what is your budget? Other then there 4k tv get something else like another brand tv those bramds you listed are cheap and lack specs for a reason. The vizio m series is fine by the way. But again how much you spending
 

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There are 3 off brand of TV's I would take a chance on purchasing, TCL, Hisense and Seiki. I bought a 50" TCL for my bedroom and I'm happy with it. Seeing that you've been happy with an Apex I think you'll probably be content with another off brand. I wouldn't buy an Insignia or a Vizio. Insignia is made of leftover parts and Vizio has a high repair rate. I don't know how Vizio made a name for themselves because they have been what you call a low end model. TCL, Hisense and Seiki may be off brands here in the US but not in other countries.
 

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I'm eligible for 24 or 36 month financing offers at Best Buy, Sears, and Amazon, so I have buying power up to $2400 (pre-tax) and would still be able to pay it off before the interest kicks in.


The Seiki is currently listing for $999, and I think this will be a prominent Black Friday Item, so after reading some predictions on dealnews.com, i'm guessing this could come in around $700 by Thanksgiving.


I did want to add that during my research here into LED panels, I've grown to like the concept of a Direct-LED, since I don't care how thin a TV is. Also I hear lots of complaints about blooming and flashlighting, etc with many of the Edge-Lit models, so another plus for Direct-Lit. I will mainly be viewing TV in a dark room.


If this Seiki has decent color saturation and some sort of dimming effect to provide decent blacks, this may work out nicely.


As far as concerns over Vizio, I have taken a quick look at the "Vizio TV Problems" forum on Amazon. Interestingly enough I did find something elsewhere from consumer reports a few years ago stating Vizio had a 3% failure rate, which is about average, but some of the weird problems i'm seeing on that forum don't make the Vizio product line sound good.
 

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I know people that work at Bestbuy and they said Vizio is number one for repair returns. As for edge lit my 50" TCL is and it's a very clean panel. Samsung and TCL jointly own a panel factory. I returned an Insignia because the panel was really bad. .TCL does make a 58" back lit LED for $779 but I've seen it drop to $549. As with any TV if you can find out how to enter the service menu they can usually be tweaked. I did that with my TCL and every TV I've owned for the past 15 years because out of the box they're not to my liking.
 

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Originally Posted by colour  /t/1496679/budget-seiki-se65jy25-65-240hz-back-lit-led#post_23881255


I know people that work at Bestbuy and they said Vizio is number one for repair returns. As for edge lit my 50" TCL is and it's a very clean panel. Samsung and TCL jointly own a panel factory. I returned an Insignia because the panel was really bad. .TCL does make a 58" back lit LED for $779 but I've seen it drop to $549. As with any TV if you can find out how to enter the service menu they can usually be tweaked. I did that with my TCL and every TV I've owned for the past 15 years because out of the box they're not to my liking.

You really should not enter the service menu nor should you recommend this. If something goes wrong or it gets stuck good luck trying to get a return or warranty replacement.
 

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Originally Posted by RockmanX  /t/1496679/budget-seiki-se65jy25-65-240hz-back-lit-led#post_23881388


You really should not enter the service menu nor should you recommend this. If something goes wrong or it gets stuck good luck trying to get a return or warranty replacement.

This is AVS forum plenty of us enter the service menu that's how we calibrate our own TV's, it's common practice. It's common sense to not make changes without guidance, or if you don't have a clue what you're doing, that's what this forum is for. There's always a method to reset a TV back to factory specs. You have to know how to enter the service menu, it's not just there and I didn't tell the OP how to enter it on whatever TV he decides to purchase. I've entered plenty of service menus and the last thing I'm concerned with is a warranty issue.Some TV's even have an advanced calibration menu accessible by the user which is basically the same as entering the service menu.


If something did go wrong would you be dumb enough to tell them you entered the service menu and messed it up?
 

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This TV is now $855 at Sears which seems tempting to me but it would be nice to find some kind of review on it before buying.
 

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Get it!!!


You have 30Days to try it out. Not a real problem if Sears is close to you. I bought the 55" 4K and that is my plan. If I do not like it. it goes back before Thanksgiving. Sears does not have these running at their max capability so you can not tell instore how they actually look
 

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Originally Posted by hcforde  /t/1496679/budget-seiki-se65jy25-65-240hz-back-lit-led#post_23972094


Get it!!!


You have 30Days to try it out. Not a real problem if Sears is close to you. I bought the 55" 4K and that is my plan. If I do not like it. it goes back before Thanksgiving. Sears does not have these running at their max capability so you can not tell instore how they actually look

A review if possible please.
 

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Originally Posted by colour  /t/1496679/budget-seiki-se65jy25-65-240hz-back-lit-led#post_23879947


There are 3 off brand of TV's I would take a chance on purchasing, TCL, Hisense and Seiki. I bought a 50" TCL for my bedroom and I'm happy with it. Seeing that you've been happy with an Apex I think you'll probably be content with another off brand. I wouldn't buy an Insignia or a Vizio. Insignia is made of leftover parts and Vizio has a high repair rate. I don't know how Vizio made a name for themselves because they have been what you call a low end model. TCL, Hisense and Seiki may be off brands here in the US but not in other countries.
I bought my 3rd Vizio and I have an Insignia.No complaints.
 

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Originally Posted by tripod39  /t/1496679/budget-seiki-se65jy25-65-240hz-back-lit-led#post_23977352


I bought my 3rd Vizio and I have an Insignia.No complaints.

Sometimes people are happy and get lucky with crap.
 

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Sometimes people are happy and get lucky with crap.
All 3 Vizio's are still going and I also have two 51" Sammy plasma's and don't pretend to be a fanboy of any.If it works and you like it-keep it.Price or brand don't enter in to it.
 

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I honestly think this product doesn't exist, or there is some sort of delay in getting it in stock.


It should have had a review by now.


I've completely ruled this out of my options.


Looking at a Samsung UN60FH6003 (direct lit), or may just go to something good in the $1500 range.
 

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I actually ordered this when it was on sale for 854 on Sears.com. It has been available for me to pick up as of yesterday, but it was raining out, so I didn't get to it. I'll go get it tomorrow and see if I can give some initial impressions once I get it set up.


If I don't like it, I'll just return it and snag the 70" Vizio that Walmart will have for Black Friday. However, that one is edge-lit, and will cost $150 more.
 

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Right now I have it hooked up in my living room to my HTPC. Here are my initial impressions - For reference, I'm coming from a Mitsubishi 60" WD-60638 DLP TV:


Out of the box, the colors on this thing are absolutely terrible! I made that conclusion when I had only looked at pictures, but they are all oversaturated with a lot of banding in them. I'm not sure how to describe it other than that, but it looks like my LG Plasma I used to have did when I initially set it up with a calibration I got off the net. So I'm hoping I can adjust it to look decent. With HD videos (The Pioneed Kuro Summer 2008 Blu-ray for example) this is not as apparent, and the picture seems fine. However it has a very digital look to it, if that makes sense. You can also tell that, while "vibrant" looking, the colors are not actually accurate at all.


I have managed to improve the image, but it isn't at a level that I'm satisfied with yet. The picture on my DLP looks much better and more natural than this with very little in the way of adjustment. I'm not sure if it's an issue with the difference between LCD and rear projection DLP technology, and if this is something I would have to live with? If anyone could comment on that I would appreciate it. I also wonder if the extra 5" is just larger to the point that it has caused some loss of clarity given the screen size and the limited resolution of 1920x1080?


I'm going to look for something I can use to calibrate the display using something other than "what I think my photos should look like" along with the Windows 7 screen calibration tool.


Overall, at this moment I am leaning heavily towards this going back in favor of the 70" Vizio that Walmart will have for Black Friday, or just getting a nice projector and building my own screen. I will at least hold onto this long enough to get the Vizio and Seiki side-by-side. Does anyone have a decent picture calibration tool they recommend (yes I will search, but just in case someone feels like saving me the headache of all the sifting) in the meantime?


I'll update this with my impressions once I think I've got it about as calibrated as it will get.
 

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Thanks for being the Guinea Pig!
I really wanted to buy this TV from TigerDirect, but their disgusting returns policy dissuaded me.


I'm in a very similar boat to you, I'm looking to replace the WD-60C9 (almost identical to yours), I very recently replaced the bulb and I was stunned by how bright the TV can be, unfortunately I need something that can be wall mounted. I have a ceiling mounted projector in the same room as the TV and it's great, but frankly it's no replacement for a regular TV for casual news/Netflix.


You should look at the Samsung UN65EH6000 - going for $999 on Amazon.com on Black Friday. I'm very tempted.


For calibration many people buy the Disney WOW bluray.
 

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I am in the same boat as espylacopa. I purchased the Seiki from Sears on special, It was a great deal...I got it for $812 plus 10% back in rewards points. However, I am having similar issues with the set. The colors are horrible. Adjusting the backlight level and the colors in the service menu has helped. To get to that menu, push menu then 0000. Correcting the overscan with 24p material in the service menu also helped with clarity.


My real issue is that there is no way to adjust the image processing. There are options in the service menu but I am unaware what they do including MIU SSC and ODCLK SSC. Can anybody help determine what these do? I am still thinking about getting the 70 vizio from Walmart or the 60 Vizio. I also purchased the 60 Dynex at Best Buy, but have not picked it up. I am trying to decide which one to keep.


Also additional helpful information, My seiki panel is the V645H1_PE1, which is made by Chimei Innolux. Allegedly, it is the same panel that is in the SONY XBR-65HX95​0 ( http://www.avsforum.com/t/1430346/sony-xbr-hx950-owners-thread-xbr-55hx9-50-and-xbr-65hx95-0/1320 ).


The Sony had an MSRP of $5,498.00, As such, it we can get this seiki calibrated correctly, It may be amazing.


So, in short any help is greatly appreciated!
 

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So after running through a few calibration screens, it appears that the Gamma on the seiki is way out of wack. I cannot adjust it to look good at any value from gamma 1.2-2.4. I am using the test pattern located at http://www.photoscientia.co.uk/Gamma.htm no matter what settings i change the boxes never become gray. They star colored. Does anyone know how to resolve this?
 
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