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I know alot of people who will be thrilled to hear this.
 

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For me, it boils down to more frustration about still needing ComCast for my Locals, then disappointment about D's choices !
 

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Finally, I'm in connecticut and was about to give up on Directv as they have been saying for awhile now that they were going to bring local channels here and hadn't delivered. Now I see in that press release they are adding Harford next week!! Of xcourse now I need to buy a new dish and get it installed, etc.
 

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I'm really disappointed to see this. I went to RS to look at an antenna for my attic so I could dump Com(munist)Cast. The guy told me that locals should become available here (DMA 46) in August. I hope he's right.


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Dmon, hang in there. I think Harrisburg will be soon.


I think DirecTV chose these markets to gain subscribers in Connecticut, Nevada, and Rhode Island. Hartford, Las Vegas and Providence are the major cities for these states.


Possibly it would be a hard sell to do Harrisburg without Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia. A cable subscriber will still stick with cable possibly since D* cant offer CCSN. Seriously I wonder why DirecTV did Philly locals, but they did anyways. I know they were under assumption they could fight and overturn mustcarry.


Maybe you could "move" to Baltimore DMA, and get locals from there until D* launches Harrisburg. You'd get networks, but Maryland news instead of Pennsylvania news. Or get nets from Pittsburgh. Maybe an antenna for local news and weather and local advertising, then you can drop Comcast.


Also Harrisburg may not be #46 for next season. It may go down. It was #44 couple years ago. I know Washington DC was #7, then it dropped down to #8 (even with Hagerstown being added to DC), Baltimore was #23 it dropped down to #24, Pittsburgh and Hartford dropped, Scranton dropped couple years ago, many East Coast (Mid Atlantic ) market dropped in rank. I think L.A. will one day overtake NY, San Francisco will overtake Philadelphia. The sunbelt markets like Austin, TX and West Palm Beach,FL continue to grow and grow while the former industrial markets from PA, WV to OH (may gain more HH) but lose in rank.
 

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Baltimore locals usually do teh weather for southern pa but no news...
 

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Will D* really go for a "move" in service address but not a change in billing address? I think I'm on the edge of the spot beam for Philly and wouldn't mind picking up all of their "locals" (2 or 3 PBS stations in particular).


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I think so, never done it with DirecTV.


I didnt suggest Philly, because of the SportsNet issue. Lot of Philly team games are blacked out within a certain radius I think too, and if its a home game its also blacked out if on national channel.


For locals, the independents are OK. During weekends they air tooo much infomercials. WWAC is the worst independent as more of their schedule is devoted to infomercials and home shopping than general entertainment shows. There is Uni & TMO (Chs. 65 & 62) but nothing much different than national feed. If you want Telemundo which I dont think is in TC, then Philly locals has one beaming from Atlantic City. Its fiber so PQ is as good as other channels.


One station is WFMZ, they are good with news and they have an Allentown Reading newscast, plus NorthWest Jersey (Hunterdon County) newstories are reported. Hunterdon is actually in NY DMA. Cable systems carry it there, but DirecTV cant offer it there.


The Philly stations arent completely PA related, so they will have NJ stories and few DE ones. The PBS stations (WHYY, NJN, WLVT) are OK. WLIW and WNET from NY are better. There are better PBS stations out there IMO. WYBE is kinda neat.


Personally, I dont like the idea DirecTV is using CONUS space on 119 for locals. I'd rather they put the extra premium channels (HBO Zone, HBO Comedy all the Max, Starz!, Showtime) on 119. This way also people wont complain DirecTV is squeezing channels on 101. DirecTV could charge maybe $4 extra for these additional channels, so its additional revenue and those that dont want it, dont have to pay for them.


I also think NAB is too strong a lobby group, and would rather DirecTV be able to secure national feeds for ABC, NBC, CBS and FOX with west coast feed alternates. The PQ I would want as good as the superb PQ I get OTA here. I'd rather a mustcarry be accuweather type or local news channels with community affairs programming from many different cities like Baltimore, Chicago, New Orleans, Las Vegas, Los Angeles and available to all subscribers like PI channels. Instead mustcarry has become carrying all the small UHF channels that rely on home shopping material to stay in existence, or carrying local feeds of Pax that nobody watches, just so Pax can make money.
 

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....EL SEGUNDO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 8, 2002--DIRECTV, Inc., announced today it will begin broadcasting local channels in Buffalo, N.Y., and Oklahoma City by mid-year -- expanding to 46 the number of markets it will serve with local channels.


....Hmm, if you don't want to wait around for DirecTv's Buffalo locals and want
LOTS of locals (including Buffalo).....get a StarChoice :p
 

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Vegas is one of the fastest growing areas in the U.S.


I'm not sure about having an NFL team nearby is a factor. In fact around my area many are equally divided between Eagles, Raven's, Redskins, and Steelers fans and this causes no end to heated letters to the local newspaper about why "Their" team is not shown. It got so bad that Ravens/Steelers games are equally shown for the AFC. The Redskins Summer Camp is at Carlisle, PA.


Sounds like a terrific area for the Sunday NFL Ticket and all the profits that brings.


But, I do know that many I talk to and many DBS Salesman say that without Locals, potential customers simply won't consider DBS. - even with one of the Highest Cable rates in the nation - HERSHEY Area. We pay more than the Harrisburg ComCast and have a few less channels.
 

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The CES shows are held in Vegas. Maybe DirecTV wanted to show off their DirecTiVos and show that network programming works with them where LIL is available. As for hotel rooms, many families do spend the day at a casino but come to the room to watch TV. DirecTV is available in some hotels, but I dont think they are doing LIL for the hotels.


Harrisburg & Scranton are likely markets to do LIL. Of course, you'll get all Phillies games with cable but probably not with DirecTV.
 

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I can do without the Sillies, er, I mean Phillies. Losing the Flyers will hurt. I wonder if I'll be able to get them with Center Ice or be blacked out. I'm trying to decide whether to keep Comcast basic for $11/mon or try my luck with an antenna? If locals will be showing up in August like the guy at RS told me, I think I'd keep the cable for the convenience.


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My ComCast Basic is almost $14.00 just for Locals plus some channels I don't want.
 

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Las Vegas was a brilliant move to all LIL. Las Vegas is the fastest growing city in the US and there is so much housing constrution going on that the cable companies can't keep up with installations, leaving the customer with OTA or sattelite. Adding LIL makes D* the only choice for many customers. The hotels are a bonus.
 
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