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Any thoughts to which might be a better route:


2 SVS Ultra 13's vs. 2 custom made Salk Audio Subs?


with the Salks i can get 2 15in drivers etc.. or go with the no intro needed SVS subs?



the Salk route would cost more but will it perform better then the SVS offerings?
 

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how much more then 2 PB13s?


Didn't know Salk was building subs now, do you have a link?
 

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Originally Posted by gooomz /forum/post/15414784


i would roll the dice because of a custom build...15in...18in woofers?


sounds pretty good to me.


you know the components are going to be first rate.


here is the link to their website: www.salksound.com .


Jim says that he does build custom subs.

I love Jim Salk and own 5 of his speakers (SongTowers, SongCenter, and 2 SongSurround I's) but I would want some specs and test data on the competing subs first so you can at least make some sort of an educated guess here.


The SVS subs are proven, tried, and true and well known for some of the same things Jim is like good customer service. The one thing that SVS won't be able to touch is Jim's attention to fine details and woodworking. In this area the sub would definitely win out. While not impossible I would be surprised if one of Jim's designs could beat the SVS in output. Anything is possible though given the right components and build. Maybe if you had a proven homebrew design that you could send to Jim to build that would be a better option? The DIY forum may be able to assist.


Either way though I suppose your priorities list comes into play here. Why ask us when the decision is ultimately yours?


-Chad
 

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Salk builds some great speakers, no question, but when it comes to subs, I'd personally prefer the top-of-the-line product from a true sub specialist. With the PB13, nothing off-the-shelf was used. Everything in it was designed specifically for it and it's performance shows it. The driver is one of the most advanced ever used in a commercial sub offering.


Of course it's to each, their own. If custom is what you're after, you have already answered your own question.
 

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If I wanted custom made subs, I would contact Mark Seaton. He might be able to build you a pair of Submersives with a good looking veneer.
 

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i know svs is top notch, but wouldn't twin 18in Salk Subs produce more output then 2 ultra 13's, or do you feel the expert, specialized design (research and development ) of the SVS Subs would still win out?
 

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i know svs is top notch, but wouldn't twin 18in Salk Subs produce more output then 2 ultra 13's, or do you feel the expert, specialized design (research and development ) of the SVS Subs would still win out?

i went that route to try and beat the ultra 13. failed miserably.
 

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Twin 18's may or may not produce more output than dual 13Ultra's. There are more factors than just driver diameter to consider. Also as important as output are things such as sound quality, frequency extension, protection from being overdriven, flexibility, and features.


I'd recommend you find out all you can about what Salk is suggesting as far as components, specs, and expected performance. I don't see how you could make an informed decision without that. What sort of price range is Salk proposing?


If you do decide to go with Salk, I'd suggest twin single 18's rather than one big one with dual drivers. It gives you more placement flexibilty and they will be easier to move.
 

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i went that route to try and beat the ultra 13. failed miserably.

You didn't try hard enough, then. There's really no real specialized knowledge to building a good subwoofer. Take high quality, long throw, low inductance driver A (or multiples thereof), install it into well-made cabinet B, EQ it with processor C, and power it with amp D. All done. (Most people who fail, fail at the first step, by picking a crappy driver with high inductance.)


From my perspective, why go settle for an off-the-peg cube when one can afford bespoke? It just seems silly. With a bespoke sub you can get a form factor that will better fit into your room, or perhaps fit a sub in someplace acoustically or aesthetically desirable that a cookie cutter cube could never go. However, At those levels of price and expected performance, one should be thinking on a little more advanced level than just two equal subs. Perhaps a 15" or 18" main sub and a pair of 10" or 12" supplemental subs.
 

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I think Salk being an audiophile speaker brand will build you a sub that will have really good sound quality and articulation, but won't be the output champion for its price. As the pb13 has both the SQ and output it is probably a more cost effective solution, but if you have a small room and want your sub to match your speakers visually as much as possible the other route can make sense too. And a well built sealed sub with a TC sounds driver could exceed pb13 in SQ too.
 

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You didn't try hard enough, then. There's really no real specialized knowledge to building a good subwoofer. Take high quality, long throw, low inductance driver A (or multiples thereof), install it into well-made cabinet B, EQ it with processor C, and power it with amp D. All done. (Most people who fail, fail at the first step, by picking a crappy driver with high inductance.)


From my perspective, why go settle for an off-the-peg cube when one can afford bespoke? It just seems silly. With a bespoke sub you can get a form factor that will better fit into your room, or perhaps fit a sub in someplace acoustically or aesthetically desirable that a cookie cutter cube could never go. However, At those levels of price and expected performance, one should be thinking on a little more advanced level than just two equal subs. Perhaps a 15" or 18" main sub and a pair of 10" or 12" supplemental subs.

i dont do DIY. but you are right about parts A-D though. specifically A in my case
 
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