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Hello all. I finally got back into my setup when I bought a Marantz UD5007 and Disney WOW disc to calibrate my 50" Sharp Aquos LC-50LE442U. Everything was done right, and using the supplied blue filter I set color to 29 (about a quarter of the way) and tint on 0 (Dead middle). Now this is supposed to be the right color, but I noticed all different blu rays and DVDs, even some games with my xbox one, look a little duller, how can I describe it, more monochromatic. Skin tones tend to look more on pale side than tan or colored I guess, but maybe this is as the source intended? It is hard for me to know reference. Is this just my eyes getting used to the way sources are supposed to be since? I assume these TVs really oversaturate the color out of the box, since mine originally was on 50 plus. Just want to make sure this is normal and when done properly, can you reassure me using the blue filter for the chroma/tint will always yield appropriate results? Thanks for your time guys.

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I set my SQ70 to Dynamic and tweaked the adjustments.I personally like a more vivid picture than what is deemed correct. Play around with the different modes and don't be afraid to tweak ..you can always reset.
 

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You can't calibrate a tv with a disk alone. The best you can do is semi-accurately adjust the basic settings. To truly calibrate a panel you need a light meter, specialized software, and lots of time if this is your first attempt. Did you turn off all artificial processing on the tv as well as the blu-ray player before attempting to adjust your panel? Keep in mind that source will depend a lot on what you see as well. When calibrating via a blu-ray player, all you can do is set the panel as close to REC.709 standards as is possible using a light meter. Blu-ray movies should look great as they are the most consistent source. Cable and sat will vary, sometimes considerably, depending on the programming, broadcast ,etc. If it is a well made tv with fairly accurate adjustment settings, all of your sources should look good.
 

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Otto, yes I durned off OPC DNR etc. no artificial processing extra on Tv or Marantz player. So basicially adding a little more vivid color, which my eyes deem more preferable, isn't a bad thing I guess then. Sharpness,contrast, brightness, and aspect all correct...color with a disc alone is less absolute...thank you for the reassurance and response. Right now I turned it up to 40, closer to midline, and I think it is better (Pirates of Carribrean blu ray I used). Again if I had better financial situation I'd plasma, I miss my old Panasonic that developed a green line...but for the price 2 years ago I couldn't go wrong with this 60 Hz TV.
 

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I have a rather odd idea about calibrating TVs, which is that pictures of real scenes should resemble as much as possible what you see looking at those scenes directly. For instance, it's easiest for me to match the color of the greens of foliage, because there is a window looking out on foliage behind and to the side of my TV. I just look back and forth and change adjustments, looking for a match. So, for adjusting the color control, I say: find some video showing things like you see around you, and if the TV display has less vivid colors, turn up the color control. Or if the display is already too saturated, of course, turn down the color.

(The inspiration for this idea about calibration I owe to Richard Harkness: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-oled-technology-flat-panels-general/261309-steaming-rat-rich-s-method-achieving-more-realistic-image.html.)
 

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It's what ever looks best to you and however you achieve it. You don't have to have an accurately calibrated panel if you don't want to. But, if you do want to have a calibrated panel, there is only one way to do that, and that's with a light meter and specialized software that will take the light readings and compare it to reference standards for adjustment. The coloring in movies for the most part is not "natural" so what you are adjusting too is the movie industry standards, which don't always follow REC.709.
 

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Yeah I seem to agree with the brightness/contrast/sharpness/ and tint but like cool temps and rather higher color adjustment. Just looks best to my eyes, even if its a little ways from movie industry reference points. Thanks for the input though guys, wish I had a light meter, I'd be curious to see it done the right way one day however.
 

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Lc-50le442u

Yeah I seem to agree with the brightness/contrast/sharpness/ and
tint but like cool temps and rather higher color adjustment. Just looks best to my eyes, even if its a little ways from movie industry reference points. Thanks for the input though guys, wish I had a light meter, I'd be curious to see it done the right way one day however.
Hi HsuDreamTheater,

Can I ask you a couple questions about your Sharp TV? (I have the same set...)

- What firmware version/released date is your TV on? I accidentally flashed a firmware for a different model and am trying to figure out the correct firmware version to help my search to track it down. The version/release date is found under MENU->INFORMATION->IDENTIFICATION

- Do you notice greens to be way too vivid? I've tried to calibrate it away but haven't had much luck. Just curious if you noticed anything similar.

Thanks, I appreciate the time and have a great weekend.
 

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Hi HsuDreamTheater,

Can I ask you a couple questions about your Sharp TV? (I have the same set...)

- What firmware version/released date is your TV on? I accidentally flashed a firmware for a different model and am trying to figure out the correct firmware version to help my search to track it down. The version/release date is found under MENU->INFORMATION->IDENTIFICATION

- Do you notice greens to be way too vivid? I've tried to calibrate it away but haven't had much luck. Just curious if you noticed anything similar.

Thanks, I appreciate the time and have a great weekend.
Hey bud, no prob. Looking at my firmware it says




v 2.05
1/22/2013 release date


Honestly I have found my greens to be ok at the point I calibrated using blue color filter that came with Disney WOW disc, that is under "movie" setting with the color rather low at 29 and the tint in middle at 0. Also color temp set to standard. What is your color numeric at?
 

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You can eyeball it:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/167-p...5300-calibration-settings-8.html#post24801537
or you can do it right.
The "old" guide has good directions for HCFR:
http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10457
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-display-calibration/1393853-hcfr-open-source.html
The updated guide is more specific to ChromaPure.
B&H has the meter on sale frequently (not now, of course ;)).:
https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...6vRw&ei=2IRGVYO3K7X-sATx_IFo&ved=0CJ4EENkrMAA
And yes, like calibrating your audio to flat and modifying it from there, you can change your video "to taste," but there is a standard for which you can/should aim.
Michael
 

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You can eyeball it:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/167-p...5300-calibration-settings-8.html#post24801537
or you can do it right.
The "old" guide has good directions for HCFR:
http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10457
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-display-calibration/1393853-hcfr-open-source.html
The updated guide is more specific to ChromaPure.
B&H has the meter on sale frequently (not now, of course ;)).:
https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...6vRw&ei=2IRGVYO3K7X-sATx_IFo&ved=0CJ4EENkrMAA
And yes, like calibrating your audio to flat and modifying it from there, you can change your video "to taste," but there is a standard for which you can/should aim.
Michael


ah there is the colorimeter, another tool I need to add to my rather large box. I'll keep an eye for the sale, thank you for the link
 

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That seems odd the colour setting would have to be lowered that much. From my experience with various displays using both just basic settings disks and blue filters and actual equipment/calibration software, the colour setting is usually pretty accurate at the default setting. If it does need a change then it's only usually a few ticks either way.
 

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That seems odd the colour setting would have to be lowered that much. From my experience with various displays using both just basic settings disks and blue filters and actual equipment/calibration software, the colour setting is usually pretty accurate at the default setting. If it does need a change then it's only usually a few ticks either way.


True Rob that's what I've thought, but I have gotten more use to it not and can say bright scenes do look good, more natural I guess. This wasn't the best LCD, like I said I was aware of that but am happy for how cheap it was...guess I'll stop worrying and just leave it there though. My experience before was same as yours thought, usually TV was dead on if not close out of the box.
 
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