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Calling all NEC VR5/VM5 owners

2186 Views 29 Replies 18 Participants Last post by G&G, Jul 5, 2005

Tly

Discussion Starter · Mar 3, 2005

So I got a VR5 a few weeks and had to return it due to a really annoying flashing, bright green pixel.

Got my replacement but over a few days time, it too developed some flashing pixels with varying degrees of obnoxiousness. What is interesting is that the flashing is dependent upon the scene. So one pixel is constantly flashing but the other 3 only flash at certain times (I guess when certain color(s) are trying to be displayed?).

Anyhow I just wanted to know if this is a bigger issue or just my bad luck. Anyone else who bought these sets have this problem? Wondering if I should just learn to live with it or gamble on another replacement.

tks for hearing my rant,

Ty

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WJB

· #2 · Mar 3, 2005

Damn this thread. I just examined my panel and found a flashing green pixel about 1 inch left of center and about 4-5 inches up from the bottom.

Where did you buy your panel ? I bought mine from Plasma Concepts about 3 weeks ago. I guess the honeymoon is over.

Icon Smith

· #3 · Mar 3, 2005

Never fails - the stellar comments sweep me away in a wave of euphoric comfort and about to squeeze the trigger on a particular model, then I come across something like this.

Tly

Discussion Starter · #4 · Mar 3, 2005

Sorry, I'm just trying to figure out if this is a widespread problem. I've seen others mention this issue as well and now that I've run into it twice, I'm thinking it's not just my luck.

1" from the side isn't as close to the middle as the ones I have so I guess you're lucky there.

Anyhow I'm asking ANY and ALL owners of these models to let me know if they have this issue or not.

Mem23

· #5 · Mar 3, 2005

First post, though I have been following the board for a while. I have a two month old NEC VR5 with a flashing green pixel. About an inch or two off center, maybe three or four inches from the top. It gets lost in most normal viewing, but is pretty obvious in dark, background scenes. I have chosen to view it as a permanent celebration of St. Patrick's Day.

db_racer

· #6 · Mar 3, 2005

My Vm5 seems to be ok and I have spent tonnes of time watching everything from dvd's, to video games, to hd cable, to sd cable. No flashing pixels here. Another guy here in Canada bought one and had it replaced by nec for a flashing pixel issue so looks like it is a warranty type of issue.

desjars

· #7 · Mar 3, 2005

I've had my VR5 since mid December, and have no stuck or otherwise defective pixels. Overall, I'm quite happy with this panel.

MCanfield

· #8 · Mar 3, 2005

I recently bought a new VR5. It unfortunately had a stuck blue pixel near the center of the screen.

NEC replaced my unit, and my new one seems awesome.....no problems so far.

I do not think that these units are any more prone to pixel issues than other plasmas.....just seems to be luck of the draw.

WJB

· #9 · Mar 3, 2005

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Originally posted by Icon Smith
Never fails - the stellar comments sweep me away in a wave of euphoric comfort and about to squeeze the trigger on a particular model, then I come across something like this.

Pixel issue aside, I am blown away by the picture my VR5 produces. Hopefully this issue is not widespread.

Tly

Discussion Starter · #10 · Mar 3, 2005

Aye WJB. I absolutely LOVE the picture quality of my VR5 with its wonderful colors and Stadium stretch mode. I just am getting the feeling that these panels have some sort of manufacturing defect. Most times I come across Dead or Stuck pixels for Plasmas/LCDs. But flashing? Seems like a pretty high amount of VR5/VM5 owners have encountered this as well.

yobob

· #11 · Mar 3, 2005

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Originally posted by Tly
Aye WJB. I absolutely LOVE the picture quality of my VR5 with its wonderful colors and Stadium stretch mode. I just am getting the feeling that these panels have some sort of manufacturing defect. Most times I come across Dead or Stuck pixels for Plasmas/LCDs. But flashing? Seems like a pretty high amount of VR5/VM5 owners have encountered this as well.

I wouldn't get too concerned. Is four posters indicative of a "high amount" of owners? Considering all these that have been sold, I doubt it.

One of those posters above (who got his replaced under warranty) doesn't believe it is a particularly NEC issue. Agreed.

Some might say that there are many buyers out there, who don't read the forum, who are victims but don't even know it. Maybe, but if it could be checked, I bet you would find mostly happy (thrilled?) owners.

If you have hours to kill, and want to scan the archives to check it out for yourself, I believe you will find that bad pixels is a relatively low issue for concern among plasma owners.

FWIW

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sievers

· #12 · Mar 3, 2005

I bought a VR5 about 6 weeks ago. It has one green pixel that is messed up, but not flashing. It only lights in the middle, the bottom and top stay black. So it is most noticable when it is displaying something green, like a football field, since up close you can see a black speck in there. It is not in the center of the screen, and would probably go unnoticed to anyone that didn't inspect the screen closely.

Icon Smith

· #13 · Mar 3, 2005

"I wouldn't get too concerned. Is four posters indicative of a "high amount" of owners? Considering all these that have been sold, I doubt it."

It isn't that four posters are having the problem, it's the fact that four have posted regarding a similar problem in less than twenty four hours - and there's another one since your post.

Also, there is the person that got a replacement panel with bad pixels on it that was replacing a panel with bad pixels certainly raises a concern.

"...I believe you will find that bad pixels is a relatively low issue for concern among plasma owners."

Precisely - i haven't purused all of the threads pertaining to other models, but I can't recall a specific one regarding bad pixels - not that they aren't there - and there are a heck of a lot more posts on the Panasonic models for instance than there are on the NEC plasmas. The incident rate just seems high for the NEC - particularly when compared to other manufacturers.

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yobob

· #14 · Mar 3, 2005

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Originally posted by Icon Smith
It isn't that four posters are having the problem, it's the fact that four have posted regarding a similar problem in less than twenty four hours - and there's another one since your post.

It's just that the question has been asked, period (and obviously they haven't all happened within the last 24 hours).

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i haven't purused all of the threads pertaining to other models, but I can't recall a specific one regarding bad pixels - not that they aren't there - and there are a heck of a lot more posts on the Panasonic models for instance than there are on the NEC plasmas.

That's certainly true.

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The incident rate just seems high for the NEC - particularly when compared to other manufacturers.

Do you really think so? I've been reading this forum since way before I registered as a member, and I couldn't say that I've read any more about stuck NEC pixels than other brands. But like the title of this tread reads, "Calling all NEC VR5/VM5 Owners."

I still think that if you're contemplating the purchase of a PDP, pixel problems will be low on your worry list. Having said that, Murphy's Law dictates that YOU will probably be one of the unlucky few to get one.

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scmguru

· #15 · Mar 4, 2005

I don't agree.. I've bought quite a few plasmas and dead/stuck pixels are always up there on my list.. I don't think many people want to pay 2k+ for a screen w/ dead or even worse.. a stuck pixel.

Just my $ .02

fuzzione

· #16 · Mar 4, 2005

I'm the Canadian guy who got my 1st flashing green pixel VM5 replaced with no hassle through NEC. My 2nd one is perfect (knocking wood) and I remain completely satisfied with the quality of this display particularly for what it cost me.

Knowing then what I know now about the VM5, having lived with it for almost 2 months, would I have made this purchase again? In a heartbeat!

Tly, I'm glad to hear that your warranty issue was successfully resolved.

I would be curious to see the percentage of VM5/VR5 returns on account of pixel problems however...

Tly

Discussion Starter · #17 · Mar 4, 2005

Fuzzione,

Thanks for the sentiment but my second VR5 also has pixel issues. Doh. I'm stuck deciding what I should do actually.

I too would be curious to see how many are actually affected. I maintain the feeling that a inordinately high amount of owners are affected by this problem. I also find it curious that everyone with an issue where the pixel is flashing, not just dead or stuck.

newguy2

· #18 · Mar 4, 2005

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Originally posted by scmguru
I don't think many people want to pay 2k+ for a screen w/ dead or even worse.. a stuck pixel.

Plenty of people have paid far more than that (try $10K) and found malfunctioning pixels. My own view on this subject is that people are making more of the issue than it typically is. Every time I've seen a post on this forum about a certain brand of plasma having a malfunctioning pixel, there are immediately several more from people who stand a foot away from their same-branded plasma and suddenly find that they too have a malfunctioning pixel. Never mind that they've had their plasma for 6 - 12 months and enjoyed the show without ever seeing the malfunctioning pixel. It then starts to bother them, mostly because they know it's there and they start staring at that part of their plasma incessantly.

It is very difficult to make a large display screen to a zero failure rate. If that was the manufacturing specification, our plasmas would cost way more than they do now. One store manager told me that he finds most plasmas have 1 - 3 malfunctioning pixels.

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scmguru

· #19 · Mar 4, 2005

You'd think they could use a laser to knock out erroneously lit pixels. A dead pixel is one thing, but one that flashes would drive me nuts.

yobob

· #20 · Mar 4, 2005

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Originally posted by newguy2

Plenty of people have paid far more than that (try $10K) and found malfunctioning pixels. My own view on this subject is that people are making more of the issue than it typically is. Every time I've seen a post on this forum about a certain brand of plasma having a malfunctioning pixel, there are immediately several more from people who stand a foot away from their same-branded plasma and suddenly find that they too have a malfunctioning pixel. Never mind that they've had their plasma for 6 - 12 months and enjoyed the show without ever seeing the malfunctioning pixel. It then starts to bother them, mostly because they know it's there and they start staring at that part of their plasma incessantly.

My thought exactly.

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