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I had my subwoofer of choice on order now for about 5 weeks and have finally given up. I have been looking at the custom DIY subwoofer route and have become fond of building a sub and using a Crown I-Tech 6000 amp. I really like the idea of using the Crown amp since I am using a Crown CDi 4300 for my mains and really like the adjustability of the crown amp through Audio Architect. So, with 4000 to 5000watts at my disposal now I just have to choose a sub and the extreme car audio subs peek my interest but have been told that car subs don't work well in a HT setting. Can anyone shed a little light on this topic and if it will indeed work well?

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Who ever told you that car subs dont work for ht is wrong. But if your choosing one for that make sure it goes as low as you want it to frequency wise. Im actually thinking of using my image dynamics idmax 12 for ht and music use.
 

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Who ever told you that car subs dont work for ht is wrong. But if your choosing one for that make sure it goes as low as you want it to frequency wise. Im actually thinking of using my image dynamics idmax 12 for ht and music use.
Thank you for the reply!

I was thinking the same thing but he seemed to be pretty adamant about it. So, if I were to be starting from scratch and had a choice of subs what would be a great option? I know I don't want to go 18" because of the box size requirements. 15" should be ok from what I've seen on the manufactures website with a ported box around 3-6 sq ft. With my limited research and knownledge I have been looking at all the mainstream TOLT car subs like; Orion HCCA 15,Sundown ZV5 15, Fi Team 4, Skar ZVX15.v2. Any other sub and box recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
 

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With today's dsp, car subs can work in ht very well.

The easiest ones are alpine type s and type r. Build a ported box tuned to low 20s and go. The quadhorn turns a type s into a complete monster. Those subs just require an amp. Then you get into our favorite, the JBL 12. These need dsp amps to work properly.

It really depends on your space, some subwoofers are geared towards car audio applications and some towards home theater. But it's not set in stone. You can break the rules for sure.
 

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The Infinity 1260/1262 used to be a good budget driver for HT (no longer in production).
The JBL GX/CX series is currently very popular.

Model whatever driver you're asking about and see.
Not to be a snob or anything but I'm not really interested in budget subs. I would like to build it once and be done with it.

Sorry for the NOOB question but what software do you recommend for modeling subs and enclosures?
 

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Not to be a snob or anything but I'm not really interested in budget subs. I would like to build it once and be done with it.



Sorry for the NOOB question but what software do you recommend for modeling subs and enclosures?
WinISD.

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Thank you for the reply!

I was thinking the same thing but he seemed to be pretty adamant about it. So, if I were to be starting from scratch and had a choice of subs what would be a great option? I know I don't want to go 18" because of the box size requirements. 15" should be ok from what I've seen on the manufactures website with a ported box around 3-6 sq ft. With my limited research and knownledge I have been looking at all the mainstream TOLT car subs like; Orion HCCA 15,Sundown ZV5 15, Fi Team 4, Skar ZVX15.v2. Any other sub and box recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
With Fi as well as PSI and PAP, you can get the subs custom built to your specs.


As far as box recommendations, you have already given your max size. If you take a little time and read some threads, we all usually go as big as possible.


Finally, I suggest that you slow down and learn some design steps before building. You have already asked about modeling subs so learn what happens when a specific parameter changes. I was hooked on this hobby when I bought a book on designing speakers from Radio Shack back in 1986.
 

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It's hard to justify using most car subs when you have stereo integrity making subs geared towards home theater that are just as powerful and can handle any abuse you throw at them.

But sundown is also an amazing company, and their ZV5 is very capable for HT and if you buy directly from them and say you want it geared towards HT they will hook you up.

Sundown and Stereo Integrity actually share a building and a lot of parts and information with each other.
 

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Is there a suggested sub for end game DIY subs builds that people use? What really makes a car sub a car sub and a HT sub such? If power isnt an issue and I wanted loud thundering bass to full the room what would the top pics be?

I will check out the winisd software when I get home. I've never modeled a sub/enclosure before. Is there any specific guidelines to follow or any suggestions I need to know?
 

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Is there a suggested sub for end game DIY subs builds that people use? What really makes a car sub a car sub and a HT sub such? If power isnt an issue and I wanted loud thundering bass to full the room what would the top pics be?

I will check out the winisd software when I get home. I've never modeled a sub/enclosure before. Is there any specific guidelines to follow or any suggestions I need to know?
Have a chat with @BassThatHz
 

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Tbh sundown is one of the only progressing car audio brands that put true engineering and r&d into the products to keep improving on them continuously. Most the newer brands on the scene are cooking cutter brands just ordering out of a catalog and driving the prices down so low that true R&D companies like sundown, jk, Rockford, etc..., cannot afford to stay in business. These becomes an issue because now the only companies left in the industry give nothing to the progression.
 

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To answer one of your questions, generally HT subs will have a more compliant suspension than car audio do. I've spoken to the guys at Fi Car Audio and PSI Car Audio and they both told me the same thing - if you request a sub to be built of HT use, they will use spiders that are less stiff than their car audio counterparts.
 
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