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It's been posted about now on this board and several others, anyone have any info or links???


I wonder how it compares to the Samsung HD-DVD1000??? which also used the Faroudja 23xx series chips and outputs 720p??
 

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bump, anyone have any info on this?
 

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A couple of days ago someone posted a link to a philips website directory with several product brochures for upcomming products. One showed the Q75 and listed DVI and 720P capabilities. Now if they'd just give it a decent cabinet it's be the perfect player.


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I need to check that link again, all I could in the pdf were pics of the hd tv set's.
 

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Bad news. Heard from a friend in Philips that the Q75 was just a concept product. Will probably be dropped as they only want to build "volume" product.
 

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ZZTop,


I posted yesterday a .jpg of the Q65 and Q75 (subject title: Philips DVD Q65, Q75 and Loch Ness).


If ZR is correct, then the Samsung HD-1000 is the only "potential" out of the box 720p player [HTPC not included]. Until someone has the HD-1000, it might as well be .... a Q75. :D


Since the Philips SA963 uses the same fli2300 chip as the Samsung HD-1000 and experimental Q75, it theoretically has the capability to output 720p. Europe has the SA963 and have successfully hacked it to multi-region and pal-progressive.


Now that the Europeans have their basic "advanced features", it may be a matter of time before some enterprising enthusiast can find a way to enable this "other" feature - 720p. [why more people are not interested in this potential, eludes me!?!]


But, 720p may be criticized because it does not adhere to the original source ala the Hitachi and Toshiba 540p up-conversion debate. The concept is the same - not necessarily the implementation of it. So it will be interesting to see people argue against 540p but for 720p.


Honestly, I think the real trick is to get the DVD to do 540p or 720p - this will make the player run at a native scan rate for nearly all HD capable sets.
 

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If ZR is correct, then the Samsung HD-1000 is the only "potential" out of the box 720p player [HTPC not included]. Until someone has the HD-1000, it might as well be .... a Q75. :D


Since the Philips SA963 uses the same fli2300 chip as the Samsung HD-1000 and experimental Q75, it theoretically has the capability to output 720p. Europe has the SA963 and have successfully hacked it to multi-region and pal-progressive.
Note that the HD1000 info on Samsung's site says the unit will output only 480p for copy protected material. Will need to hack that too.


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Honestly, I think the real trick is to get the DVD to do 540p or 720p - this will make the player run at a native scan rate for nearly all HD capable sets. [/b]
Actually, few sets take the 540p input. They upconvert the 480i/480p input to 540p.


It would be better to upconvert to 1080i, which every true HD set will take.
 

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I have a feeling we'll have to wait until CES to see if DVI is going to be available as a DVD output. I was hoping that with the Samsung and Philips machines that other manufacturers would feel pressure to use DVI. RIght now my hopes aren't too high.


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I would NOT want to get a DVI output from non-HD source like current DVDs. Your TV set is going to have just one DVI port, so why waste it on a signal that can pass through component connections just fine?


Better to use the one DVI port for an HD satellite/ATSC receiver, or some future HD DVD player.
 

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Funny.... semantics get you everytime - I say most, you say few. Toshiba, Hitachi, and Mitsubish are confirmed to take a 540p signal and display it as 540p - no conversion at all. That seems to be a little more than a "few sets".


The assumption for the remaining "few" sets - since 540p is the same scan rate as 1080i, will the monitor display that signal (540p) or not? :D
 

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I would NOT want to get a DVI output from non-HD source like current DVDs. Your TV set is going to have just one DVI port, so why waste it on a signal that can pass through component connections just fine?
Very simple. I have a digital display. DVD is a digital medium. DVI is a digital transport. A DVD player with DVI out to my display would not go through any D/A or A/D conversions until it met my eye. Repeatable "perfection". I'd buy a DVI switch to handle the DVI from my STB.


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Rather than perfect a DVD signal that's sub-HDTV, and have the D-A/A-D in my HDTV path, I'd rather put the DVI to use where it will make a big difference, like HD satellite, or D-VHS, etc. My point is if you just have one DVI port, why not use it for the highest resolution source?
 

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There is no evidence that anyone will EVER release a 720p DVI player that's hardware based (i.e., non HTPC).


Every time we get excited about such a product, it turns right back into vapor.


If the Q75 is a real player, it will be much better than Samsung's offering. Phillips finally got their act together in the DVD arena, IMO, whereas Samsung's offering are useless..
 

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Hey guys,


Kiss DP-450 scales. There, the cat's out of the bag. I'll comment further when I've finally managed to test the feature (need some special cables for that).
 

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Originally posted by CupertinoSlim
Rather than perfect a DVD signal that's sub-HDTV, and have the D-A/A-D in my HDTV path, I'd rather put the DVI to use where it will make a big difference, like HD satellite, or D-VHS, etc. My point is if you just have one DVI port, why not use it for the highest resolution source?
Pick up a DVI switch and have the best of both worlds.


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"There is no evidence that anyone will EVER release a 720p DVI player that's hardware based (i.e., non HTPC)".



What about the NRS-DCS.
 

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I heard, Krell was releasing a 720p firmware upgrade for the DVD Standard however, it is not equipped with DVI.
 
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