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Can I do anything with a Pioneer VSX-416 AVR?

2131 Views 12 Replies 4 Participants Last post by LawyrUp, Jul 19, 2021

Yuvalfrr

Discussion Starter · Jul 17, 2021

I have just received a free used VSX-416. It is 5 channels. I think it's 130w per channel.
I am not using a surround setup and I won't be using such a setup for many years to come. Only front stage, 2.1.
Currently using a Sonos Amp to power Wharfedale Diamond 8.2 (soon upgrading to 9.2) and SVS-SB1000 Pro.
The Sonos Amp is nice, easy and compact and gives 100-120w or so per channel. The sound is really nice. However, to this very moment I have no idea if setting the Sub Crossover on the Amp affects the front speakers too. If my Xover is at 80Hz, I don't know if the speakers only come in at 80Hz or actually play their whole range (up to around 45Hz).
Do I have any use for this Pioneer AVR? I understand it's an entry level but I did see some test videos on YouTube and the sound seems quite nice. I don't know what kind of features I have on the Pioneer that could assist me either.
I wonder if the sound on the Pioneer would be better than Sonos even if only using 2 channels and Sub connection.
Would love to hear opinions and any relevant information.

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eljaycanuck

· #2 · Jul 17, 2021

Yuvalfrr said:
Can I do anything with a Pioneer VSX-416 AVR?

You can use it to power a multi-channel or 2-/2.1-channel system.

... I wonder if the sound on the Pioneer would be better than Sonos ...

Since you have both in your possession, IMO you might as well try 'em out and see (hear) which sounds better to you.

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Yuvalfrr

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jul 17, 2021

eljaycanuck said:
You can use it to power a multi-channel or 2-/2.1-channel system.

That's a given my friend. I'm asking is there any reason to ditch Sonos Amp (stereo) and go for VSX-416 (AVR)

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eljaycanuck

· #4 · Jul 17, 2021

Yuvalfrr said:
That's a given my friend. I'm asking is there any reason to ditch Sonos Amp (stereo) and go for VSX-416 (AVR)

IMO that is something only you can decide.

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Yuvalfrr

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jul 17, 2021

eljaycanuck said:
IMO that is something only you can decide.

I can't decide if I have no idea what a Pioneer VSX-416 is worth and I don't intend to start moving things around and switching all the cables and so on without justification. There are zero reviews as well. I'm clueless , that's why I came here. Telling me to decide myself beats the purpose of the thread.

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eljaycanuck

· #6 · Jul 17, 2021

Yuvalfrr said:
... Telling me to decide myself beats the purpose of the thread.

So...who decides for you? 10 people tell you to keep the Pioneer and ditch the Sonos. 10 people tell you to keep the Sonos and ditch the Pioneer? Who's right? Which one do you keep and which one do you ditch?

My guess is that you end up trying 'em both out and keeping the one that sounds best to you. But that's just me. YMMV, of course.

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Yuvalfrr

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jul 17, 2021

I think if I get 10 for Pioneer 10 for Sonos at least I have information from 20 people I wouldn't have earlier.
My friend I know you are trying to help. But I came here to get opinions or any details people can give me on Pioneer and its capabilities. If I came asking if the Pioneer is any good and should i buy it and you told me order it, connect it, if you don't like it return it then sorry it doesn't address the thread. In my space starting to mess with cables and such (and i also would need to purchase optical cable, i dont think such an old AVR would connect HDMI) is a hard process.
So please if you can help with what I asked I would love to hear. Else, we are just babbling for no need.

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eljaycanuck

· #8 · Jul 17, 2021

Yuvalfrr said:
... I came here to get opinions or any details people can give me on Pioneer and its capabilities. ...

You came here saying you received a free used Pioneer and you wanted to know what you could do with it:

Yuvalfrr said:
I have just received a free used VSX-416. ... Do I have any use for this Pioneer AVR? ...

I responded accordingly.

Then you "wondered" a very subjective question and asked for opinions:

... I wonder if the sound on the Pioneer would be better than Sonos ... Would love to hear opinions ...

I responded accordingly with my opinion that only you can know which of the two sounds better to you.

You don't like my responses - that's OK. Perhaps someone else will tell you what you want to hear.

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Yuvalfrr

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jul 17, 2021

This is not a fight my friend or trying to be right. I just want some info!!!! any little detail or opinion. I don't think I'm asking much. Lets cut our reply sequence here. Thank you for your replies.

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Leeliemix

· #10 · Jul 17, 2021

I only googled fairly briefly at the sonos amp and it looks like it does do the crossover itself when it senses a sub is connected.
You can double check the manual or something like that but if so its probably better to just keep using the sonos, much more user friendly also.

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Yuvalfrr

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jul 17, 2021

Leeliemix said:
I only googled fairly briefly at the sonos amp and it looks like it does do the crossover itself when it senses a sub is connected.
You can double check the manual or something like that but if so its probably better to just keep using the sonos, much more user friendly also.

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It only says you can set a crossover for Sub. It doesn't say if it is able to limit front speakers accordingly. Usually amps don't do this that's why I am confused.

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Leeliemix

· #12 · Jul 17, 2021

Yuvalfrr said:
It only says you can set a crossover for Sub. It doesn't say if it is able to limit front speakers accordingly. Usually amps don't do this that's why I am confused.

A crossover is the speakers, a sub rarely has a crossover for itself and a signal output to speakers. It usually only has a low pass filter on the back (and a gain knob(volume)) so i assume the Sonos does actually does do a crossover from the speakers since its mentioned. One of the google hits said that its possible to set the crossover manually in an app if not wanting to use the automatic one.
I didnt read the Sonos amp manual but it should be in there.

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LawyrUp

· #13 · Jul 19, 2021

You could take it apart and play with the parts. Maybe learn something new.

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