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Can SA8300HD output DD and PCM audio at same time?

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I have an SA8300HD connected to a HDTV and AVR through HDMI.

I need to send PCM to TV (no DD decoder on TV) and DD to AVR at the same time.


Does anyone know a way to have both audio formats active at the same time.


I want to be able to watch tv without turning on AVR. So connecting tv to AVR is not the preferred option here.


Thanks
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The optical and analog both output at the same time.


It will also output analog,hdmi,optical at the same time.
Feed HDMI to TV, which will tell it to output Stereo.

Feed Optical (or Coax) Digital Audio to AVR.

You may have to enable Dolby Digital for this output in DVR settings.

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Originally Posted by holl_ands /forum/post/12835969


Feed HDMI to TV, which will tell it to output Stereo.

Feed Optical (or Coax) Digital Audio to AVR.

You may have to enable Dolby Digital for this output in DVR settings.

I'll try again, but it seems that once the HDMI to tv link gets set in stereo, the SA8300HD automatically changes all audio outputs to stereo as well. I haven't found a way to have it output DD through optical or digital coax, while HDMI is in stereo mode.

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Originally Posted by holl_ands /forum/post/12835969


Feed HDMI to TV, which will tell it to output Stereo.

Feed Optical (or Coax) Digital Audio to AVR.

You may have to enable Dolby Digital for this output in DVR settings.

Depends on the TV and the software running on the 8300 (SARA, Passport, Navigator). My TV (Sony KDS-55A3000) does not tell it to output stereo (the Sony matrixes the 5.1 into 2.0) so I have no issues with this.

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Originally Posted by davehancock /forum/post/12839590


Depends on the TV and the software running on the 8300 (SARA, Passport, Navigator). My TV (Sony KDS-55A3000) does not tell it to output stereo (the Sony matrixes the 5.1 into 2.0) so I have no issues with this.

My KDF-E50A10 states:

__________________

Dolby® Digital

* Yes


from
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...0&Dept=tvvideo

__________________


When I set the HD8300HD Passport to output HDMI => Dolby digital, no sound. Change it to HDMI => PCM, there's sound. Problem is that it also sets all the other outputs to 2 channel PCM as well. The AVR has no Dolby Digital to decode.



Go figure???
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Originally Posted by 3Gps /forum/post/12840472


My KDF-E50A10 states:

__________________

Dolby® Digital

* Yes


from
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...0&Dept=tvvideo

__________________


When I set the HD8300HD Passport to output HDMI => Dolby digital, no sound. Change it to HDMI => PCM, there's sound. Problem is that it also sets all the other outputs to 2 channel PCM as well. The AVR has no Dolby Digital to decode.



Go figure???

1) Passport - not SARA (SARA is more Hardware oriented - but you don't have a choice here)

2) Older Sony


My point: It varies - no hard and fast rules.
It is my understanding that if you use HDMI for the connection, then once it links to the TV, all other connections are limited to "stereo" and are unable to pass 5.1 even if the HDMI is outputting stereo. My TV is DVI so I use a DVI->HDMI adapter and do have 5.1 out the optical/coax to feed my stereo. My bedroom set is HDMI and it will not output 5.1 on optical if I use HDMI, so I use component to the TV.

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Originally Posted by goober22 /forum/post/12844882


It is my understanding that if you use HDMI for the connection, then once it links to the TV, all other connections are limited to "stereo" and are unable to pass 5.1 even if the HDMI is outputting stereo. My TV is DVI so I use a DVI->HDMI adapter and do have 5.1 out the optical/coax to feed my stereo. My bedroom set is HDMI and it will not output 5.1 on optical if I use HDMI, so I use component to the TV.

As I said: It depends.....My TV accepts 5.1 from my cable box so the optical connection to my surround sound receiver gets 5.1. Other TV's are different and may conform to your understanding - but not all. Also some SA8300HD software (SARA) has settings (as hollands pointed out) that override what the HDMI connection tells it to do.


So: "It varies -no hard and fast rules."
Hey Guys. I'm hoping someone here can help me. In response specifically to davehancock:

I too have a KDS-55a3000. I am have a SA 4250HD connected to it via HDMI. However, unlike you, when I set the box to ouput Dolby Digital it does not have sound (through either the speakers or the optical output). The stereo setting works just fine for both however I'd obviously rather Dolby Digital (specifically over optical to connect to an a/v reciever).

the only thing that I can possibly think of that may be causing this is my HDMI cable. I do not believe it is up to the 1.3 standards (think its around 1.0). In your opinion, could this be the problem? How exactly do you have your system hooked-up (cable specs. Etc)


Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ahead of time.

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Originally Posted by dave32392 /forum/post/13562870


Hey Guys. I'm hoping someone here can help me. In response specifically to davehancock:

I too have a KDS-55a3000. I am have a SA 4250HD connected to it via HDMI. However, unlike you, when I set the box to ouput Dolby Digital it does not have sound (through either the speakers or the optical output). The stereo setting works just fine for both however I'd obviously rather Dolby Digital (specifically over optical to connect to an a/v reciever).

the only thing that I can possibly think of that may be causing this is my HDMI cable. I do not believe it is up to the 1.3 standards (think its around 1.0). In your opinion, could this be the problem? How exactly do you have your system hooked-up (cable specs. Etc)


Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ahead of time.

No it's not the cable (at least the HDMI one). The issue you are talking about has nothing to do with 1.3a. Different cable systems use different software. There are three basic software systems in use with Scientific Atlantic boxes: SARA, Passport and Navigator. My particular Time Warner system uses SARA.
ok. Thanks.

I'm not sure what Cablevision uses. But is that what may be causing the problem? It seems to be correctly configured to output Dolby Digital over HDMI so I thought it must have had something to do with either the TV or the hdmi cable. Once I read your post though I saw the 55a3000 should allow what I'm trying to do. So I just assumed it might have to do with the cable. I guess it has something to do with the software. Thanks

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Originally Posted by dave32392 /forum/post/13563086


ok. Thanks.

I'm not sure what Cablevision uses. But is that what may be causing the problem? It seems to be correctly configured to output Dolby Digital over HDMI so I thought it must have had something to do with either the TV or the hdmi cable. Once I read your post though I saw the 55a3000 should allow what I'm trying to do. So I just assumed it might have to do with the cable. I guess it has something to do with the software. Thanks

Yes the A3000 will - but as I said before:


"It depends....."


Still, it is not the HDMI cable.
I have an optical connection from my SA8300 (Cablevision) to my AVR and an HDMI connection to my TV. If I set the digital audio output to DD, no sound goes to the set. From what I read elsewhere, HDMI cannot handle a DD signal, so this makes sense. There is no way that I can see to set a pcm output through HDMI while maintaining DD through the optical output.

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Originally Posted by da1951 /forum/post/15042238


I have an optical connection from my SA8300 (Cablevision) to my AVR and an HDMI connection to my TV. If I set the digital audio output to DD, no sound goes to the set. From what I read elsewhere, HDMI cannot handle a DD signal, so this makes sense. There is no way that I can see to set a pcm output through HDMI while maintaining DD through the optical output.

I have an SA8300 and agree with your last sentence. However, why do you want audio to the TV and AVR at the same time. I just change my settings on the SA8300 when I want to go from TV sound to AVR sound.

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Originally Posted by HDMI Guy /forum/post/15044667


I have an SA8300 and agree with your last sentence. However, why do you want audio to the TV and AVR at the same time. I just change my settings on the SA8300 when I want to go from TV sound to AVR sound.

Because people want to set and forget about it.

It's a pain to go through the STB setup and flip between hdmi and DD audio outputs everytime you want to use the AVR or the TV sound.

This is a big oversight from SA. But some companies aren't aware or care enough to go back and fix it.


Many people including myself on;y flip on the AVR when watching a dvd or movie.
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