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I am not that experienced with speakers and surround sound so I apologize ahead of time. I just recently bought a Samsung 55" F7100. Now I want a good sound setup to go along with it. Anyways I was at my local Best Buy and was looking at all the setups they have there. A sales associate pointed me in the direction of their Klipsch setups. At first I was looking at a home theater system in a box, but quickly realized the power those things put out is pretty much just plain weak. Here is what I am ideally looking for. I will be watching movies, playing games, and hooking up my PC/Laptop to the TV/Receiver so I will be doing a lot of PC gaming, internet surfing, and that. Pretty much everything you can do with sound I will be doing so I want something that will last me a long time. Something I don't have to upgrade in 2-3 years. In 7-10 years I can understand, but I really want to make this purchase once and be good for awhile. The room this setup will go in is going to be the main living room. I can't say the dimensions because I don't really know. I know I am moving two times within the next three years, so its hard to say. But these definitely will be in the main living room. My budgets was originally $1,000 but if the deal that I am getting truly is a great deal then I have no problem going with it. Anyways here is the setup they mentioned.

 

Front Surround Speakers - Klipsch Icon KF-28 x2

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-icon-dual-8-2-way-floor-speaker-each/2138273.p?id=1218310758886&skuId=2138273

 

Center Speaker - Klipsch Icon KC-25

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-icon-5-1-4-center-speaker/2138079.p?id=1218310760241&skuId=2138079

 

Rear Surround Speakers -Klipsch Icon KS-14

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/klipsch-icon-5-1-4-center-speaker/2138079.p?id=1218310760241&skuId=2138079

 

Together they are all normally $1430. They are selling it right now if I buy two KF-28s, and the KC-25 then they will give me the KS-14s for free. On top of that they have the two items I'm paying for discounted to $980 for both. So I would get a $1430 setup for $980. I also would need a receiver with all that and the employee recommended the Pioneer 700W VSX-823-K which they have online for $280. In total my setup would run me $1341 after tax. What do you all think? I don't HAVE to go with that receiver since its not part of the bundle. If you recommend a different receiver which one then? I would MUCH prefer the receiver be dual voltage (110v-220v) because one of my moves is me moving to England and if my receiver is only 110v then I need to get a transformer (another $50-$100).

 

Anyways I appreciate anyone that takes a look at this and any input you may have. I have updates for this thread get directly emailed to me so any questions and I will response probably within a few minutes. Thanks again and have a good day.

 

PS: I forgot to mention a subwoofer. I think I'm going to hold off a bit for a subwoofer because I may not need one to be honest because I've never heard an audio setup of the one that I'm contemplating purchasing. I can always add that in later as well since its not part of any bundles right now.
 

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If movies is your #1 usage, a sub is a must (IMHO!).
 
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Is buy a cheap sub. I just bought a bic f12for 200. It's highly regarded for being a good budget sub. Otherwise your setup will be pretty nice. I'm a fan of klipsch
 

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If I pick up a sub I would probably go with a Klipsch model just because I'm OCD and would like the system to match.
 

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Subs don't need to match the speaker brand at all. In fact the better subs are from dedicated subwoofer companies. You'll get more bang for your buck that way.


If you're OCD though then do what you want....
 

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Great. Thank you for that information.


Now I just saw on Newegg they have the Klipsch Synergy F-20 on sale for $150 a piece. Any reason the KF-28s are so much more expensive? I'm guessing its because the KF-28s have a tweeter and are 8" vs the Synergy's 6.5". Anybody with knowledge on this please fill me in. Here is the Synergy's link:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882780027
 

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If you like the Klipsch sound, I would go with the BIC Acoustech line. They are very comparable to the Klipsch Reference series, which is much better than their Icon or Synergy speakers. You can get the PL-76 System with PL-200 sub (great sub) for $1000 shipped with an offer at http://www.acousticsounddesign.com/core/view_BigProduct.cfm?pid=1540&sc=27 You are going to need a sub for movies and gaming, so you would need to figure in another $200 at least with your setup. This Acoustech system offers better performance and value.


Throw in a receiver, I personally would go with a Denon 1713. It has a much more capable room correction with Audyssey MultEQ XT, and you should be able to get it for $300 or less (BB might have some on clearance).
 

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The Best Buy guy is leading you astray. If he was interested in anything other than getting a bonus for selling that particular set of speakers, he'd work within your budget , and obviously include a sub, which is a 100% must have for movies, (music too if you listen to any Hip Hop, Techno, etc). Listen to recommendations on this site, and take advantage of the online retailers, eg Newegg, etc. Best Buy is generally overpriced and clearly in this case is not listening to the customer!
 

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Originally Posted by jontyrees  /t/1494786/can-you-all-look-over-a-setup-for-me-klipsch-speakers-receiver#post_23834746


The Best Buy guy is leading you astray. If he was interested in anything other than getting a bonus for selling that particular set of speakers, he'd work within your budget , and obviously include a sub, which is a 100% must have for movies, (music too if you listen to any Hip Hop, Techno, etc). Listen to recommendations on this site, and take advantage of the online retailers, eg Newegg, etc. Best Buy is generally overpriced and clearly in this case is not listening to the customer!
+1. Besides, big box salesmen typically aren't experts in gear, to say the least.
 

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+1. Besides, big box salesmen typically aren't experts in gear, to say the least.

Oh, and don't let a BB salesman try to sell you a bunch of Monster HDMI and speaker wires! They'll have you spending $30 for an HDMI cable you can get at monoprice.com for $3.
 

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Thank you all for the responses. It does seem that I can get better for my money. Looking at the BIC Acoustech line-up, that does seem very appealing. $1,000 for a PL-76 w/ the subwoofer seems like a pretty sweet deal. Now I have to compare that to the PL-89II setup. The difference in price between the two is $200, so would that warrant the upgrade? I see some main differences of 6.5in speakers vs 8" speakers. Anybody speak from experience? Also I am having trouble finding the Denon 1713. Anybody have any other recommendations for receiver preferably dual voltage (110v-220v) Also is the consensus that the BIC Acoustechs are going to be my best bet for my price range?
 

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I agree with the Bic recommendation...if you liked the sound of the Klipsch, you'll also like them. Like others have said, they sound more like the more expensive RF series from Klipsch, so would be a nice upgrade over what you looked at. Plus you'll get a good sub for the same price. You could save a little more money by going with 5 of the bookshelf or FH6 - LCR speakers (the same as the PL-26 without the glossy finish) instead of the floor standing models...as long as you are using a sub, the advantages of the larger front speakers don't mean much.
 

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Originally Posted by Kunk  /t/1494786/can-you-all-look-over-a-setup-for-me-klipsch-speakers-receiver#post_23834817


Thank you all for the responses. It does seem that I can get better for my money. Looking at the BIC Acoustech line-up, that does seem very appealing. $1,000 for a PL-76 w/ the subwoofer seems like a pretty sweet deal. Now I have to compare that to the PL-89II setup. The difference in price between the two is $200, so would that warrant the upgrade? I see some main differences of 6.5in speakers vs 8" speakers. Anybody speak from experience? Also I am having trouble finding the Denon 1713. Anybody have any other recommendations for receiver preferably dual voltage (110v-220v) Also is the consensus that the BIC Acoustechs are going to be my best bet for my price range?

I remember reading somewhere in the BIC Owner's Thread that the PL-76 had more detailed mid-range, but that was just one person's opinion. Maybe go read through the thread some and see what people think. The Denon X1000 is the new version of the 1713, it's more expensive, but would be a fine choice.


I think if you like the Klipsch sound, the BIC Acoustechs are a great cheaper alternative.
 

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Fantastic. So far I have my choices boiled down to three. Here they are:

 

 

1. BIC Acoustech PL-76 - $1008

 - 2 PL-76 towers

 - 1 PL-26 center

 - 2 Pl-66 surrounds

 - 1 PL-200 subwoofer

This is the cheapest out of all of them. However I still need a receiver with this setup

 

2. BIC Acoustech PL-89II - $1168

 - 2 PL-89II towers

 - 1 PL-28II center

 - 2 PL-66 surrounds

 - 1 PL-200 subwoofer

I still would need a receiver

 

3. Klipsch RF-42 Setup - $1296

 - 2 RF-42II Towers

 - 1 RC-42 II Center

 - 2 RS-41II Surrounds

 - 1 Harman Kardon AVR-1650

 - 1 PL-200 subwoofer

This one is the most expensive, however it does come with a receiver so ultimately this is actually possible the cheapest.

 

With all those three options listed, would would be some pros/cons of each. Once again I really appreciate all your guy's help.
 

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If you are in the States, buying used from Craig's List can be a great deal for speakers.
 

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I am in the states yes, however I am moving overseas in one month and they are packing all my stuff up in a few weeks so I need to have everything purchased by then. The craigslist route would require me to wait around and hope I can find something. Plus I am OCD and don't like purchasing used items when its over a certain dollar amount.
 

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On paper the Klipsch might be the best of those 3 options....Although you could probably get that AVR fairly cheap and pair it with the other options. The Klipsch are going to be brighter in sound (that comes down to personal preference) and MAY have a better resale value, if that means anything to you. As far as quality, it is probably neck and neck with option 1.
 

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I would go with the first option. Those RF-42 II towers only have 4.5" drivers and won't have the same kind of dynamics of a bigger woofer. You can easily get a capable receiver for $300 putting options 1 and 3 at the same price.
 
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Agreed^
 

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Yeah I just saw that they are 4.5in drives so now it is between option 1 and 2. With that being said the price difference between those two is $160. How much of a difference would I see with that? Is the only difference the 6.5in vs the 8in. Also I saw the PL-89s are in the 2nd generation and they include "The newly engineered PL-89 II incorporates an improved crossover design which enables smoother response for both mid and high frequency ranges." which I do not see on the PL-76s.

 

I can't thank you all enough for bearing with my lack of knowledge on this subject and being patient with me.
 
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